What comes next, CAVE ?

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:25 am

If its a sequal

Guwange or Progear

If its a tribute

Thunder Force or Souky

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:55 am

A Guwange sequel would be nice indeed. On the other hand, its a very strong standing game, which makes a sequel a bit problematic, as its hard to top what they did in this game. Same with Ketsui - there is not much to add via a sequel.

Progear could have the appeal to the masses that would make a sequel work; the steampunk setting screams for that. I doubt that Cave will make another shooter without any pin-up girls that they can figurines and posters of. Games as dark as Ketsui or DOJ are a thing of the past IMO; Ibara was dark-ish, but the rose sisters made up for that. Kawaii / Hentai = cashola. And can you blame them? Every company needs to make a living.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 6:54 am

its hard to top what they did in this game. Same with Ketsui - there is not much to add via a sequel.

The same can be said for Dodonpachi, ESPGaluda, and Mushihime-sama, yet they always find a way.

Wanderer · Post by **Wanderer** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:54 am

They should release 2 shooters next year, one original concept and the second a Cave Allstar shooter like Batrider which featured teams of ships/characters from the various Raizing games.

icycalm · Post by **icycalm** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 8:17 am

GaijinPunch wrote:
its hard to top what they did in this game. Same with Ketsui - there is not much to add via a sequel.
The same can be said for Dodonpachi, ESPGaluda, and Mushihime-sama, yet they always find a way.

I find it very interesting that you would say this. Because in my estimation the sequels to these three games are barely equal to their predecessors -- and certainly not better. In the case of Mushihime Futari I might change my mind once I play the final version, but I seriously doubt I will.

[/compulsive post in a Cave thread]

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 8:22 am

Espgaluda 2 is a gazillion times better than Espgaluda. That's a scientifically proven fact!

roker · Post by **roker** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:03 am

Treasure and Cave should put their minds together and make a game

kind of the same way nintendo and square have in the past

they could make it a puzzle game with a gazillion bullets

but only the pink bullets will kill you while the blue bullet build up a meter

building said meter will unleash a fantastic orgy of hentai goodness with URLs to purchase said hentai

every copy should be sold with used women's panties

Raidenfighter Kirkov · Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:43 pm

Each new title is welcome as long as its made by the real cave programming team. (you know what i mean...pink shi...ahhem sweets...

)

Greetings
RFK

Dandy J · Post by **Dandy J** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:59 pm

icycalm wrote: I find it very interesting that you would say this. Because in my estimation the sequels to these three games are barely equal to their predecessors -- and certainly not better.

DoDonpachi is arguable. ESPGaluda 2 from what I've seen is better than the 1st, and I liked the original a lot. I'd be suprised if Mushi 2 was worse than the 1st because Mushi 1 was like the shittiest game ever.

sffan · Post by **sffan** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 2:52 pm

Since Mushi was a tribute to Galaxian & Galaga, they could do sort of a Space Invaders tribute, with all sorts of alien creatures coming at you. Cave hasn't yet done a shmup with alien creatures. They could really get crazy with that concept if they tried.

Herr Schatten · Post by **Herr Schatten** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 2:59 pm

sffan wrote:Mushi was a tribute to Galaxian & Galaga

I thought it was a tribute to Tatsujin.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:06 pm

sffan wrote:Since Mushi was a tribute to Galaxian & Galaga

I can't find the connection

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:24 pm

By default, every shooter is a tribute to Galaxian and Galaga.

Kiken · Post by **Kiken** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 5:03 pm

Raidenfighter Kirkov wrote:Each new title is welcome as long as its made by the real cave programming team. (you know what i mean...pink shi...ahhem sweets... )

Pink Sweets is an awesome Recca-throwback. I guess I'm one of only a handful of members here who actually enjoys it.

Post by **Icarus** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 5:14 pm

Kiken wrote:
Raidenfighter Kirkov wrote:Each new title is welcome as long as its made by the real cave programming team. (you know what i mean...pink shi...ahhem sweets... )
Pink Sweets is an awesome Recca-throwback. I guess I'm one of only a handful of members here who actually enjoys it.

Nah. Everyone wants a piece of Pink Sweets.
I suspect RFK already has two copies of the PCB kit in his collection.

Twiddle wrote:
sffan wrote:Since Mushi was a tribute to Galaxian & Galaga
I can't find the connection

Bugs and stuff, probably.

Raidenfighter Kirkov · Thu Oct 05, 2006 6:17 pm

Icarus wrote:
Kiken wrote:
Raidenfighter Kirkov wrote:Each new title is welcome as long as its made by the real cave programming team. (you know what i mean...pink shi...ahhem sweets... )
Pink Sweets is an awesome Recca-throwback. I guess I'm one of only a handful of members here who actually enjoys it.
Nah. Everyone wants a piece of Pink Sweets.
I suspect RFK already has two copies of the PCB kit in his collection.

Wwwwwhat ?

*opening the pcb collection door...looking around...swinging a huge club to smash this bastard pcb*

Hah ! This bastard has not infiltrated my nice collection.

*waving a huge shield: STOP THE CAVE HYPE !*

Its not too late.
Go Taito, Konami, Capcom, Treasure...go go go...you can make it.

Greetings
RFK

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 6:37 pm

roker wrote:Treasure and Cave should put their minds together and make a game

I was thinking this earlier, that they should make Mars Matrix 2. Cave can handle the graphics.

Plasmo · Post by **Plasmo** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:41 pm

imo pink sweets is an excellent game, whys everyone bashing it?!
i want to see more raizing like games from cave.their own ones usually suck.

ill6 · Post by **ill6** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:16 pm

Rob wrote:
roker wrote:Treasure and Cave should put their minds together and make a game
I was thinking this earlier, that they should make Mars Matrix 2. Cave can handle the graphics.

You will be thinking of Takumi there...

I must be one of the few people that like MM's graphics... A follow up would be super.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:40 pm

I don't have a problem with MM's graphics, but I think Cave's artists might be able to do a better job of it. It's kind of Cave-ish to begin with.

ill6 · Post by **ill6** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:41 pm

Agreed.

slateman · Post by **slateman** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 12:29 am

No one realistically threw out DDP4? Is that b/c there's just about no chance it'll top DDP/DDP3?

Sequels are great and all, Guwange would be fantastic, but a new series would also be great. Ibara blew me away (never played PS), Mushihimesama did the same (and never played Futari). A new series would be welcome, but I figured Pachinko and MahJong would be their route.

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 12:39 am

slateman wrote:No one realistically threw out DDP4? Is that b/c there's just about no chance it'll top DDP/DDP3?

It's because Cave said it would be a trilogy.

Valgar · Post by **Valgar** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 1:05 am

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Most of this board hasn't even played their 3 newest games.

Post by **Icarus** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 1:19 am

Valgar wrote:DREAMCAST COMPLIATION PACK FOR DREAMCAST OMGLOL I LIVE IN FANTASY LAND.

Most of this board hasn't even played their 3 newest games.

I'm skint, so I have an excuse. ^_-

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 1:50 am

Rob wrote:I don't have a problem with MM's graphics, but I think Cave's artists might be able to do a better job of it. It's kind of Cave-ish to begin with.

MM's graphics are pretty neutral; Giga Wing, though, is pretty underrated in the graphics department, imo.

gameoverDude · Post by **gameoverDude** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 2:52 am

Icarus wrote:Q: What comes next, Cave?
A: More mahjong.

Bad joke (I hope it's a joke).

In my opinion, it should be nothing more until ESPGaluda II and Pink Sweets get ported to PS2, preferably sans the friggin' filtering. Then again, a Tatsujin III would be decent. Have it take off right after Tatsujin-ou, but add some special scoring system (not combos ala DDP, but something).

Danny · Post by **Danny** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 6:49 am

sffan wrote:Since Mushi was a tribute to Galaxian & Galaga, they could do sort of a Space Invaders tribute, with all sorts of alien creatures coming at you. Cave hasn't yet done a shmup with alien creatures. They could really get crazy with that concept if they tried.

I'm proberbly the only guy in the room that wants some sort of crazy tempest clone heh.

Seriously I'm not going to bother getting all hyped up about what they intend to do next. Personaly I just want them to continue to make games that they are passonate about and not because "oh the people want this game we need the money!".

elvis · Post by **elvis** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 6:54 am

Valgar wrote:Most of this board hasn't even played their 3 newest games.

If they're anything like me, most of this board lives in countries where shmups don't appear in arcades, and probably have real world expenses like mortgages and children that take priority to $1000+ PCBs.

Console ports are the only way I get to play these titles. I'd say there's more than a few folks here in the same boat.

CFO · Post by **CFO** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 7:01 am

elitism in a cave thread? unheard of !