This is like saying a PC game that has issues fixed or balanced with a patch is not better than the original because they change the original.... how is that not a purist thing? It's like you're saying the original is the original, faults and all, and a port that fixes it can't possibly be better (despite being improved) because the original is the original.
Acid King... Its not like saying that at all... Of course a game that fixes issues or balances a game is better but we are talking about games where no such fix or balancing has been applied.
To elaborate, to use your analogy, Batsugun Special is a fixed version of the original, fixed you might say... some may prefer it some may not such is their whim but that does not alter Batsugun original. I am comparing Batsugun original with the arcade version of the Batsugun port... There is no balancing there. I am not saying there are no faults I am saying "a port cannot improve on the original" by definition... This is a logical, perhaps theological thing I don't care about the format you use to play the game.
Limbrooke... Ports are not the most conveinient way of playing the game for me, that is subjective of course as it depends on the set up. I think its a good thing that everyone gets to play these games of course and ports is the only way and for that we should all be pleased.
Of course I stand by the fact that a port can never be better. I have said several times that the package can be better i.e. the extras combined but the original can never be better.
For clarity that does not mean that the original cannot be improved; of course it can... It just means that if people are playing ports of the original it cannot be better (by definition)... Take Mars Matrix, the port scores differently, is it better, no... Its different and if you prefer it that is all good for you.
GajinPunch... I have said earlier (twice I think) that a DC and Naomi version is practically the same thing. By which I mean in computational terms. Thats not to say that all games are the same (as Naomi is more capable than Dreamcast) but most are "ported" unchanged. Ported of course is a mute point as these share the same architecture... Thats what I am saying; if the architecture is different they are going to be different.
I don't understand your comment about kiddies moaning, I did not mention playing PS2 about emulation, in fact I did not mention any stance on emulation at all! I am basing my comments on the theory of computation and the Turing machine as I remember it from many years ago at university.
Additionally, I am not ranting, sorry it it seems that way; I don't really care what you do in terms of achieving satisfaction from your gaming experience... Let me explain what I mean:
-Theologically (I guess? ... I am drunk) - A copy of X cannot improve on X except in a subjective way. Eg1) A copy of the MonaLisa cannot be better, it can only be different, you might prefer it but that is subjective opinion. Eg2 A copy of Dodonpachi on the Saturn cannot be better, it is different, you might prefer it but its not the same thing.
-Computationally... A port of X cannot be the same as and cannot improve on X. At best it can replicate X to the point that the output of the replication is so near to the original that the difference is negligable. Of course with many ports the difference is not negligable because there are wide differences between the original and the port architecture and these are not fully addressed in the port.
- Logically - X' cannot be better than X because X' is packaged with Y. If I am trying to play X then the best way of playing X is by playing X; the brilliance of Y is irrelevent to the quality of X. So in English, Espgaluda PS2 cannot be better than Espgaluda PCB because it is packaged with an arrange mode. Even though I like the arrange mode the best version of the original is the original (by definition). In your (or my opinion) X'+Y > X but that is of course a subjective thing based on your values of (for example) money and the difference between X and X'.
I don't know why we are arguing to be honest. I suppose it kills some time at work. As I say, I think people get very excited about nothing... Clearly a port cannot be better but still we argue illogically about "my dad is better than your dad" and for what... Well it kills some time I suppose. Play the port if you want or, if you prefer play the PCB, or, if you prefer go and play Doom... Its all the same to me!
