PSX - Night Raid

Harlequin · Post by **Harlequin** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:14 am

Hi

Just wondering if this is any good?

Cheers
Harlequin

neorichieb1971 · Post by **neorichieb1971** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:39 am

I've not played it, but heard that its not stellar.. Falls into the 6 or 7 out of 10 range.

zlk · Post by **zlk** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:39 am

I own the game and think its great. Buy it, the game is fun.

ill6 · Post by **ill6** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:19 am

I have the arcade version; it makes no sense whatsoever to me.

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:31 am

Imagine Giga Wing or Mars Matrix gameplay mechanics, with abstract and somewhat crappy 3D graphics, that's pretty much Night Raid.
If you liked those other games by Takumi, you will probably like Night Raid as well.

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:39 am

Use the search!

http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?t=7050
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?t=4778

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:58 pm

I decided to sell my copy of NR because there seems to be no reason to play it when I could be playing Giga Wing, GW 2, or Mars Matrix. I'm quite sure I'll never exhaust what these games have to offer me.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 3:49 pm

The game's concept isn't completely awful, but the loose control absolutely kills it...I think someone said that (for reasons I couldn't begin to guess at) it's not a problem when played on an import PS1, but I've never tested it myself, and the control's definitely off when playing on a JPS2.

Limbrooke · Post by **Limbrooke** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 3:52 pm

CIT wrote:Imagine...Mars Matrix...with...crappy 3D graphics..

Imagine? Maybe you need to observe Mars Matrix a little closer.
Mars Matrix looks like junk compared to even than say, Gun Frontier as pre-rendering did not do that game a whole lot of good. It is however a good game and even if the graphics aren't the best they certainly don't detract.

I know exceptionally little about Night Raid but if apparently looks worse than the DC port of Mars Matrix I could possibly accept that. But the arcade version. Hell no, that's pretty awful to look at.

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 3:52 pm

BulletMagnet wrote:The game's concept isn't completely awful, but the loose control absolutely kills it...I think someone said that (for reasons I couldn't begin to guess at) it's not a problem when played on an import PS1, but I've never tested it myself, and the control's definitely off when playing on a JPS2.

Yeah, I don't notice a problem when played on a J PS1.

Post by **Ghegs** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 4:48 pm

BulletMagnet wrote:The game's concept isn't completely awful, but the loose control absolutely kills it...I think someone said that (for reasons I couldn't begin to guess at) it's not a problem when played on an import PS1, but I've never tested it myself, and the control's definitely off when playing on a JPS2.

Yeah, figuring this out was a personal crusade of mine for a while. I did a whole thread about Night Raid's loose controls and got plenty of info from other users based on their experiences. Unfortunately this is one of those threads that disappeared along with the forum's last iteration. There were some people who have managed to play the game without problems on a PS2, but the majority did have problems. Including me, which is why I sold my copy. To professor ganson, if memory serves.

But yeah, playing it on a PS1 is a safe bet to avoid any issues.

Kiken · Post by **Kiken** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 5:09 pm

Ghegs wrote:But yeah, playing it on a PS1 is a safe bet to avoid any issues.

Oddly, I still experience loose control when playing the game on my Debug Station. I might try to track down a standard J-PSOne to test it on that.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:24 pm

CIT wrote:Imagine Giga Wing or Mars Matrix gameplay mechanics,

I can't believe no one's called BS on this. The problem with NR is that they put in some mindless button mashing device in place of bullet manipulating shields. If it played anything like either I'd love it.

PC Engine Fan X! · Post by **PC Engine Fan X!** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 7:55 pm

I do own both the Taito G-Net version of Night Raid presented as a Taito G-Card game cartridge and the later released version as a Japanese PSX CD-Rom based import. The official tagline is: "Welcome to Nightmare!"

The G-Card version of Night Raid has a bit of extra detail over the PSX version -- the bonus scores appear (whereas in the PSX version, it isn't there to save on CPU processing power).

The second player option is available in the Taito G-Card version (whereas in the PSX version, only one player is available to save on CPU rendering power and keep the Night Raid engine at a consistant 60 frames-per-second framerate). Takumi had to sacrafice some of the features that were possible on the original Taito G-Net hardware version of Night Raid in order to run at it's best on the PSX hardware. Of course, the Taito G-Net is regarded as a PSX 1.5 except endowed with more processing power to handle complex polygonal-based graphics. ^_~

I'm still amazed that Takumi was even able to do a cool PSX port of Night Raid with it's cool trademarked Takumi signature stylized "scatter-fire" patterns galore. ^_~

There is an extra bonus mode to play Night Raid that isn't available on the original Taito G-Card version of the same name which is a small "domo arigato" to the Takumi shmup fans. ^_~

Also a cool all-new CGI rendered opening intro on the PSX version of Night Raid sets the stage for the shmup fans to really get into. ^_~

The maximum cartridge capacity of an Taito G-Card game cartridge is a 320MB allotment (which could easily fit on a 650-700MB PSX CD-Rom based media with plently of room for extra bonus content). ^_~

High scores aren't saved on a Taito G-Card of Night Raid upon powering down for the day on a Japanese arcade cabinet or Supergun setup but is savable on the PSX version (which is a plus in my book) via a standard 1MB PSX memory card.

The PSX version of Night Raid looks stunning on the Sega Dreamcast console using the beta-version release of Bleemcast boot disc -- looks much better than the original Taito G-Card version running on the original G-Net arcade motherboard setup IMO (either in Japanese RGB mode or DC VGA mode as well). ^_~

There's always room for a better improved Night Raid II sequel...Takumi, your response please? ^_~

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:07 pm

PC Engine Fan X! wrote: There's always room for a better improved Night Raid II sequel...anyone?

I think I've said this before, but it would be great to combine the hot/cold meter with Mars Matrix everything else. Blue bullets reflected would be cold (obviously) and pink hot. Yeah. That would be interesting.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:08 pm

Rob wrote:
CIT wrote:Imagine Giga Wing or Mars Matrix gameplay mechanics,
I can't believe no one's called BS on this. The problem with NR is that they put in some mindless button mashing device in place of bullet manipulating shields. If it played anything like either I'd love it.

does it work like some proto mushihime-sama thing

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:10 pm

No, I believe you're supposed to mash and (attempt to) steer the launcher while doing it. Frequency of mashing doesn't make a difference. Maybe someone can correct this. It's a confused system because it doesn't seem very controlled.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 2:19 am

I think ideally you're supposed to steer the "Hug Launcher" in the direction you want it to go to keep the "chain" going, but just randomly wiggling around seemed to work best.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 2:38 am

Hmm, this makes me wonder how well it would work on a modded PS1.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 2:51 am

dave4shmups wrote:Hmm, this makes me wonder how well it would work on a modded PS1.

Poorly.

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:18 am

so the black hole stage in gradius gaiden runs at full speed on a PS1?

Post by **Ghegs** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:24 am

Strider77 wrote:so the black hole stage in gradius gaiden runs at full speed on a PS1?

Yes. And in the PSP Gradius Collection as well, naturally.

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:46 am

I had this when I had a modded ps1... I didn't realize this. might have to look into getting another at somepoint. then again the PS3 is suppose to support ps1 also.... actually scatch that. i won't be able to afford one of those for quite awhile, let alone an import one. I don't trust the region free statement by sony... prolly just means that they are gonna lock it via the game discs like the 360...

SAM · Post by **SAM** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 3:40 am

I can't figure out the score/game system of Night Raid

, anyone can shard some light?

gameoverDude · Post by **gameoverDude** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 3:51 am

The graphics are reasonably good for a PS1 title. I used to own the G-Net card but sold it- Takumi ported the game quite well, doing a better job than Taito did with their own RayCrisis. It's no Giga Wing, but still well done- and different.

NR's hard rock soundtrack is great stuff.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 6:02 pm

SAM wrote:I can't figure out the score/game system of Night Raid , anyone can shard some light?

I think there's a review on insert credit which goes into a bit of that stuff.

Skyline · Post by **Skyline** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 8:16 pm

http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?t=4855

Strat thread.

I remember running the high score thread for this game back on the old forums. Absolutely no one posted in it!

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 3:36 am

Rob wrote:
dave4shmups wrote:Hmm, this makes me wonder how well it would work on a modded PS1.
Poorly.

Man, what a weird shmup! Pretty much every other PSX shmup I've heard of that has glitches running on the PS2 works just fine on any PS1.

Skyline · Post by **Skyline** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 5:52 am

I can vouch for the game's controls not being any better on the PlayStation emulators ePSXe and AdriPSX as well.

Although admittedly, it doesn't feel as bad on a good stick as opposed to the D-pad.

Galderic · Post by **Galderic** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 2:10 am

I like Night Raid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2g7GWlMB3A

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