Ketsui price

[MattR]

Hello,

What is a fair price for a Ketsui PCB? Are they easy to buy new or used?

Cheers,
Matt

[segasonicfan]

A fair price from what I've seen these days is ~$750 for a used PCB only. This is the going rate on many sites in addition to shipping so anything less than this is hard to come by.

The board is pretty damn rare these days and I've never even seen a kit.

-Segasonicfan

[MattR]

The PCB only is Jamma compatible? I don't need to the kit do I?

Cheers,
Matt

[NTSC-J]

The kit is only for collectors, the PCB itself is all you need to play. And yea, it's JAMMA.

I think 750 for the board alone is a bit much, I saw a complete kit for 680 not too long ago.

[system11]

You don't need the kit, the PCB is JAMMA, and it's not rare, just expensive. If you offer in the region of $700 give or take in the trading section, you'll probably get offered one within a few days.

[neorichieb1971]

I think by "kit" he was on the understanding you needed other bits to play the game.

"kit" means artwork, flyers, instruction sets and PCB box etc.

[MattR]

I think by "kit" he was on the understanding you needed other bits to play the game.

Yeah that is what I thought. Board only is more expensive than I expected. I hope it is worth it. At this rate it will be the only board I own

Cheers,
Matt

[sven666]

I hope it is worth it. At this rate it will be the only board I own

Cheers,
Matt

no need to worry matt

[mulletgeezer]

if you look at older sales threads for this game you'll see the going rate is (or was) around $500 - $550, but i found nobody wishing to sell this one to me when i enquired recently and noticed others in the same position, so i edited my WTB thread offering $625 and had 3 interested sellers PM me within 2 hours!


assuming you already like cave games i think you'll find this game to be well worth the money - it doesn't have the most interesting scoring system ever but it's extraordinarily intense and will keep you playing for a long time, also it should hold it's value well so if you don't like it you should be able to sell it without making a loss.

[MattR]

Thanks to everyone for your input. I'm encouraged by your comments about the game. Having not seen it they are very helpful. I do really like Cave games but the closest I've come to the real thing is DoDonpachi on MAME and DoDonpachi DOJ on PS2 which I found too difficult to complete. I'm going to shop around for a reasonable price on the PCB now.

Cheers,
Matt

[Leeram]

Ketsui is simply awesome, my favourite Cave game and I like most of them a lot!

I've only had the priviledge to play for two sessions in an arcade in London so I didn't get very far into it. Difficulty seemed to be ok up to about level three when it got a bit mental as all cave games do

If I could afford it I would buy it without thinking twice, no matter how much it was.

Cheers

Lee

[ill6]

Ketsui is harder than DOJ in my opinion. I would buy other boards before plonking down for chopsui.

[segasonicfan]

if you look at older sales threads for this game you'll see the going rate is (or was) around $500 - $550, but i found nobody wishing to sell this one to me when i enquired recently and noticed others in the same position, so i edited my WTB thread offering $625 and had 3 interested sellers PM me within 2 hours!

Interesting, I'm curious to see how much you'll pay for this game. I had a very hard time finding one for less than $700. Coinop charges $760 for their one copy and excellentcom is sold out. I also haven't seen one FS on the forums in a couple months so I don't see how people can think this game isn't rare (as well as expensive).

Of course I should say if you haven't played it you should know it's truly great. Try downloading the superplay video of it so you can see it in action.

[Gemant]

Coinop charges $760 for their one copy

PCB only.

But for full and brand new kit?

800$?

[mulletgeezer]

if you look at older sales threads for this game you'll see the going rate is (or was) around $500 - $550, but i found nobody wishing to sell this one to me when i enquired recently and noticed others in the same position, so i edited my WTB thread offering $625 and had 3 interested sellers PM me within 2 hours!

Interesting, I'm curious to see how much you'll pay for this game. I had a very hard time finding one for less than $700. Coinop charges $760 for their one copy and excellentcom is sold out. I also haven't seen one FS on the forums in a couple months so I don't see how people can think this game isn't rare (as well as expensive).

Of course I should say if you haven't played it you should know it's truly great. Try downloading the superplay video of it so you can see it in action.

it isn't rare; it's just that demand is exceeding supply of this game. i bought my copy from sven about a month ago, and i think he also recently sold one to another swedish member who's name escapes me. sven has a ketsui tree in his garden

[ASK]

A good reason for price jumps is threads like this. People start seeing what other people believe it's worth and it begins to get inflated as they expect to get that price. The trend continues to snowball until some crap game (not referring to Ketsui, just speaking in general) is suddenly selling for hundreds more than it was just months earlier, for no real reason

[Valgar]

True story. I bought Ketsui (full kit + poster) a year after its release for cheaper than what is going now (and I think VENOM sold his for $200 which was the lowest ever). At the time, no one gave a shit about the game, and the best sorce of information was Brandon's fucking horrible "preview".

[mulletgeezer]

it's an interesting theory, but do you have evidence? i suspect that this kind of thread is an effect of such a rise more than it is a cause of it, and i doubt the shmups forum has too much effect on the global ketsui market. of course i have no evidence for this either

[ill6]

I can see that talking about a game makes people want it more but the price of this game has been on the rise for over 12 months since its lowest point and I have not seen so many of these threads.

Its the same across most Cave boards, people are getting into Cave and buying all the boards, people seem to start with unrported unemulated and Ketsui is in both categories (we have seen Dangun and Esprade rise a lot and a little too).

[ASK]

it's an interesting theory, but do you have evidence? i suspect that this kind of thread is an effect of such a rise more than it is a cause of it, and i doubt the shmups forum has too much effect on the global ketsui market. of course i have no evidence for this either

Well, not speaking this thread in general but it's obvious that people will base their asking price for 'collectables' and other such items not available anymore from the manufacturer, on current 'trends' in the market. So people may do research on this forum, or on any other arcade game forum, browse finished listings on eBay, etc, to get an idea of the price they should be expecting to receive for it.

The worth of things like this are generally figures pulled out of your ass. They have less to do with the product itself and more to do with what the person is willing to part with the item for, due to their packrat nature or what have you. This starts to inflate the price, especially when there is a lull in the availability of an item. All it may take is someone with a little too much cash to throw around to give in to an extortionate price, and that sets the precedent for other sales.

[Venom]

True story. I bought Ketsui (full kit + poster) a year after its release for cheaper than what is going now (and I think VENOM sold his for $200 which was the lowest ever). At the time, no one gave a shit about the game, and the best sorce of information was Brandon's fucking horrible "preview".

Yeah, I bought it for $230 from cosmic and it seemed nobody was interested in the game. During my sell off it went for ~280, a couple months later people are paying double that

It's a great game, Cave's best IMO, but the prices are ridiculous.

[sikraiken]

True story. I bought Ketsui (full kit + poster) a year after its release for cheaper than what is going now (and I think VENOM sold his for $200 which was the lowest ever). At the time, no one gave a shit about the game, and the best sorce of information was Brandon's fucking horrible "preview".

Yeah, I bought it for $230 from cosmic and it seemed nobody was interested in the game. During my sell off it went for ~280, a couple months later people are paying double that

It's a great game, Cave's best IMO, but the prices are ridiculous.

I still kick myself for not buying it from you when I had the chance.

[GaijinPunch]

I bought mine, board only, just before it shot up. Price was 30,000 yen and change. I recall Mak having a kit sometime around there, complete, for under 40,000 yen. Maybe 35,000 range.

[sven666]

yeah well if you go back long enough you could buy just about anything for any price.. those times are past and gone so why mope about it, just accept it.
if you cant accept that ketsui will run you an excess of $600 then you better come to terms with that you'll never own/play it too..

i have a bunch of videogame magazines from 96-97 and in the ads there i dont think a single NEOGEO AES game costs over $20, sure i wish i had bought some back then but it doesnt make me want to slate the people who buy them for $$$ these days, each to his own, why is that so hard to accept?

[Brian]

I bought mine from Big about a year and a half go, for I believe $525. The price has risen since then, but I am not sure by how much. I was actually tempted to part with mine since prices seem to be rocketing.

But, and the reason I kept it, is because the game is simply great. In my view, the prices are high because when people play it, they want to keep it. The $600-700 I could get for it would be gone in hours, but the game is there for years.

[caincan]

no port, no emulation, no arcade except rare places... makes it too hard to play for many... i remember past year, when someone finally came with the board in a private gameroom, there were about 15 people, mostly shmupers, totally shocked for about 2 hours looking the machine, waiting time to play

[jpj]

i agree with brian. my newest guitar cost £1350, but it's mine...for life!

a game is only worth what a person is willing to pay for it.

[Venom]

I bought mine from Big about a year and a half go, for I believe $525. The price has risen since then, but I am not sure by how much. I was actually tempted to part with mine since prices seem to be rocketing.

Glad you're enjoying my old board

[segasonicfan]

Glad you're enjoying my old board

He definitely is...he wouldn't even consider trading it to me

I think it's funny to see all the people here saying Cave prices are inflated and these threads cause it and it's a phase, etc etc.

The simple truth is more people are finding out how great these games are and they are never going back down in price. At least not for a very very long time...and again, I had to hunt my ass down to find a Ketsui for under $700. I'm not talking about a couple months ago either, this was over the past couple weeks.

-Segasonicfan

P.S. Venom=coolest supervillain ever

[GaijinPunch]

a game is only worth what a person is willing to pay for it.

Anything is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

Glad you're enjoying my old board

There's only a 33% chance of that. I sold two to Big a couple of months before he sold that one.