Shooting Game Tournament 2006

SFKhoa · Post by **SFKhoa** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 5:32 am

And so it says I've been nominated. Can I still join if I'm late?

ED-057 · Post by **ED-057** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 5:41 am

I think option B is the way to go.

I'm on the east side of the USA but if it's alright I'd like to join Team Old Schoolers.

I hesitate to suggest a bunch of old shmups (that most people probably don't want to play anyway) since it occurs to me that in some of them you can increase your score by hanging out at boss fights indefinitely. Still, I'd like to see a PC-Engine/caravan week. And a Compile week *ducks*

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 5:50 am

ED-057 wrote:I'm on the east side of the USA but if it's alright I'd like to join Team Old Schoolers.

Welcome aboard.

Edge · Post by **Edge** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 6:25 am

SFKhoa wrote:And so it says I've been nominated. Can I still join if I'm late?

Offcourse, you can. Added you to the Fake USA Team, if that's fine with you.

DEL · Post by **DEL** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 9:38 am

If it hasn't already been set, I'd like to propose Icarus to Head-Up UK Advanced Team Schilt.

I'd also like to propose the Adorable Semi Schilt for UK Team Mascot

Can the UK have a Dutch Mascot?

Tychom · Post by **Tychom** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 10:03 am

Edge wrote:
B: Everyone can play, best 3 scores of a team counts

pro: It doesn't matter how many team members join a certain game (3 at least have to)

con: If you are a "weaker" player, you may feel that your efforts were useless.

This sounds best to me, everybody who wants to play in a round gets to do so, if they're good enough they get counted too.

As for the idea of a big player ranking, it seems to me like something that could be run on the side unofficially, its always nice to see how well you're doing individually or compared to your friends plus even if you're regularly missing out on the top 3 spots you still get to measure your progress.

It may be about time to come to some decision on the player-starved Italy, France, Netherlands teams perhaps? maybe make a Mainland Europe team?

Sword · Post by **Sword** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 10:44 am

Tychom wrote:
Edge wrote:
B: Everyone can play, best 3 scores of a team counts

pro: It doesn't matter how many team members join a certain game (3 at least have to)

con: If you are a "weaker" player, you may feel that your efforts were useless.
This sounds best to me, everybody who wants to play in a round gets to do so, if they're good enough they get counted too.

As for the idea of a big player ranking, it seems to me like something that could be run on the side unofficially, its always nice to see how well you're doing individually or compared to your friends plus even if you're regularly missing out on the top 3 spots you still get to measure your progress.

It may be about time to come to some decision on the player-starved Italy, France, Netherlands teams perhaps? maybe make a Mainland Europe team?

That's not a bad idea. Some of the other teams are pretty big too, so it seems acceptable. Or will the really big teams be split?

As for a name, how about Team Semi-victorious?

LUNardei · Post by **LUNardei** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:09 am

I like this kind of team-based competition but sorry, I have to decline. September will be a busy month for me, so I'll keep on spending my playtime with Mushi

sven666 · Post by **sven666** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:09 am

i like icarus's idea with two tables, however it needs to be incorporated more with the whole team aspect i think, as it stands now its is really more like every man for himself.. im not clever enough to come up with a good solution tho

anyways team sweden has 2 more members coming in as soon as they get the hang of joining the forum

Post by **Shatterhand** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:09 am

If I can't manage to settle a BRAZIL team, I'd like to play fo Team Old Schoolers , if they accept me.

I'm just 23 years old, though I've won the Oldschool competition here a few years ago, and I suck at the more manic shmups

Leeram · Post by **Leeram** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 12:19 pm

freddiebamboo wrote:
Shatterhand wrote:Regarding the score, maybe you should add the score of every member of a team who played the game that week, and divide by the number of people who played the game in that team - this way you have an "average" score for the team.

Just a suggestion, don't know if it's the best way.
This will be a good way to do things.

I think this is a great idea!

Cheers

Leeram

DC906270 · Post by **DC906270** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 12:50 pm

ill play, for either the UK team, or the Loser team

can we play Gunbird?

Tychom · Post by **Tychom** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 1:06 pm

Shatterhand wrote:Regarding the score, maybe you should add the score of every member of a team who played the game that week, and divide by the number of people who played the game in that team - this way you have an "average" score for the team.

Just a suggestion, don't know if it's the best way.

I don't think it's particularly well suited to this competition where teams have a varying number of players, for instance a team of 3 average players is almost certain to beat out a team consisting of 3 above average players and a few novice players 'making up the numbers' when going with this system. On the other hand if you always take the top 3 scores the strengths of each team regardless of size will be shown.

Post by **Icarus** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 2:33 pm

sven666 wrote:i like icarus's idea with two tables, however it needs to be incorporated more with the whole team aspect i think, as it stands now its is really more like every man for himself.. im not clever enough to come up with a good solution tho

Rob has a point that it would take the players in the lower table a couple of games before they could get into the points. Perhaps if both tables got points distribution, but with the upper table getting double what the lower table gets - 1st in the upper table gets 60 while 1st in the lower table gets 30 - might give some incentive to players to push for the upper table and assist their team in scoring more points.

EDIT: On second thoughts, that doesn't sound too balanced. Hmm.

Some good ideas going, just need to find a good balance.

DEL wrote:If it hasn't already been set, I'd like to propose Icarus to Head-Up UK Advanced Team Schilt.

You want me to head up what now? ^_-
Seriously, I'm not a team leader, I'd prefer just to play. I think you should head up the UK team. ^_-

Davey · Post by **Davey** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 4:51 pm

I haven't been online all week (I just moved, so I'm busy with unpacking and setting up the new apartment and all that crap), but I'll join whatever team wants me or whichever one I default into by being in Ohio. I'm not going to lie, I'm too lazy to read through 8 pages to find out.

Disclaimer: Aside from not being the world's greatest player, I don't have too much stuff (I've been mostly playing doujin shmups these days, sometimes MAME), so if a game isn't emulated or ported to DC, I probably don't have it. I've toyed with the idea of getting a new JP PS2 since my modded one died, but that hasn't happened yet.

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 5:01 pm

Shatterhand wrote:If I can't manage to settle a BRAZIL team, I'd like to play fo Team Old Schoolers , if they accept me.

I'm just 23 years old, though I've won the Oldschool competition here a few years ago, and I suck at the more manic shmups

You're more than welcome to join us old-ish farts

DEL · Post by **DEL** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 5:06 pm

Icarus wrote;

You want me to head up what now? ^_-
Seriously, I'm not a team leader, I'd prefer just to play. I think you should head up the UK team.

Considering the size and complexity of your 60 member scoring calculation proposal I'd say that you more than "prefer just to play"

The UK Team Schilt is a play on NTSC-J & Venom's K1 Fighting Tournament name:- STG 無差別級グランプリ2006 決勝戦 (Shooting Game Open-Weight Grand Prix 2006 Final Match)

Unlike myself, you also have previous Smeet experience^_-

Regs, DEL

Edge · Post by **Edge** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 5:13 pm

Here's an idea to split up the 2 UK teams:
We could also maybe form a London team and a seperate UK team, how many from you are from London?

Code: Select all

Team 1

Icarus              UK
mulletgeezer        UK 
freddiebamboo       UK
Leeram              UK
ill6                Uk               Loser Team

Team 2

DEL                 UK
Smraedis            UK
elbarto             UK
DC906270            UK               Loser Team

Is this ok, for you?

EDIT:
Are there more members of Team Cowboy? 3 is not enough, I think.

zakk · Post by **zakk** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 5:25 pm

I'm the mysterious 4th Cowboy.

1up · Post by **1up** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 5:43 pm

If we go with model B with top 3 scores of the team counts I would also like to see a singles table where you can see every individuals score

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 6:39 pm

The Dutch team has only got 3 members (myself, Dennis and Sword) atm, so we are at least 2 short...

Maybe the French members are up for an alliance for the shmeet?

DEL · Post by **DEL** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 6:41 pm

Edge - Thanks for taking the time to work out 2 possible UK Teams.

BUT

For real competition against other strong Countries, I would prefer this:-

UK Team 1

DEL
Icarus
Smraedis
Mulletgeezer

UK Team 2

elbarto
ill6
DC906270
Leeram
Freddiebamboo

(The only 2 members from London in this list are me and ill6, although not sure on DC's location?) A strong London Team could be made up from my Old School friend's -M-, KAC, ARC, ARM, UBN - and quite a devastating Team that would be!! BUT they are mostly not active shmupwise now except for Mills (-M-), and only ARC and ARM are registered on this board.
- So a London team is a no-go.

I'm very happy with the two Teams listed above^.

DEL

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 6:54 pm

DEL wrote: Can the UK have a Dutch Mascot?

No! He's ours and you're just jealous!

DEL wrote:So a London team is a no-go.

And that is a good thing for the rest of the teams. You, Mills, ARC &ARN in a team would be THE team to beat for sure (and we know that would happen).

Edge · Post by **Edge** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 7:20 pm

Maybe we could do a Netherlands/France and a Sweden/Italy team, if that's ok for both sites?

EDIT:

DEL wrote: For real competition against other strong Countries, I would prefer this...

Ok, you suggest two UK teams based on tiers instead. Let's see what the other players think. I got your point, to have a team with the top tier UK players. But on the other hand all the other teams are put together by some regionals or other random ideas.

Let's see how we handle the UK teams. What do the other users think?

Valgar · Post by **Valgar** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 7:33 pm

btw I'm from the USA (Wisconsin).

DEL · Post by **DEL** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 9:32 pm

Super Laydock wrote;

No! He's ours and you're just jealous!

Too right I am! - 6ft 10" 'Death From Above' - who couldn't be jealous

Oh well, we will have to come up with a new Mascot...

---------------------------
Hehe - It needed a false "You live in the UK" accusation for Mr Cowboy-RJJ to finally reveal that he doesn't live in Oreo Cookies!

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 9:59 pm

Edge wrote:Maybe we could do a Netherlands/France and a Sweden/Italy team, if that's ok for both sites?

The former "Netherlands" and "France" teams have now officially joined forces!

Our, as of now yet to be named, team will consist of:

Vincere (France)
Tychom (UK)
Sword (Netherlands)
Dennis (Netherlands)
Super Laydock (Netherlands)

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 10:37 pm

Jesus Kryste, seems someone nominated me, and since I am in the middle of moving to another place I am not sure wheter I can participate or not, I`ll just have a look in the next few days... my only achivement was a fairly nice Batrider normal score so far, so maybe I´ll might give this another try. And whoever nominated me, that`s nice!

EDIT: I see it was Edge, so I`ll see if I can join. The problem might be that I am not sure how long I`ll be able to access internet

Nemo · Post by **Nemo** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 10:56 pm

BTW, I'm from Ohio, not really fake USA, but I'm a mercenary.

Edge · Post by **Edge** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 10:56 pm

FrederikJurk wrote:EDIT: I see it was Edge, so I`ll see if I can join

Oh I am sorry, but you have to thank Herr Schatten for the nomination.

Anyway I'd welcome you in our team as well.

EDIT:

Nemo wrote:BTW, I'm from Ohio, not really fake USA, but I'm a mercenary.

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