Thanks NEV but I propose Edge for the PM of list and password.your team send to my email a file and i send to one your member (propose DEL) our file with our list with our password
ah come on, it's not that hard to imagine why this would be the case!Neverland wrote:why?
ùSuper Laydock wrote:ah come on, it's not that hard to imagine why this would be the case!Neverland wrote:why?
Mame is comon ground for a lot of people. It's just that a lot of people here that love their shmups have grown up playing the real thing (PCB's in machines at real arcades) and still do just that (play the real deal) and don't have access to setup able to play the games in similar conditions in mame.
Mame is trying to be a substitue for the real thing, and while it in some cases succeeds in approaching the orriginal in terms of on screen stuff, it will always remain something trying to approach the real deal.
Excluding people by prohibiting playing the real deal can be a put off in this case therefore.
Most of our top players use PCBs, yes.Neverland wrote:yuor best players have all pcb release in mame? (is a joke obviously)
Even MAME inputs have their problems. A player whose PC runs a game at 40fps has a far easier time completing a game than a player who runs it at 60fps, and the input recorded does not make that distinction when the replay is played back.Neverland wrote:input is unique method to guarantee a real score of the play.
More than you realise. While we have a good strong team as of current, the players that we would love to have participating for us have been effectively 'frozen' out by the choice of verification. But as stated before, its your challenge you've issued, so we have to comply with the demands.Neverland wrote:how many yuor team players have this emu problem
It's a friendly (at least I hope so...) match, certainly some scores could be verified by pictures and believing in peoples word/honor for them being real and achieved in the set tournament time...Neverland wrote: ehmm i LOVE and I LIVE for the real pcb and i have spent 90% of my resources for it
but in a contest is important guarantee a score...
Dunno exactly but there are people not having a good input machune (like a arcade stick or USB pad of their choice. Then there's DEL (you seem to want him in badly, who's not got the gear to use wolfmame as is proposed... So it IS somewhat ofa problem!how many yuor team players have this emu problem
So 1 of your 10 is having problems as well using the proposed setup!?we are in nine (dont have problem of emu e real pcb)
Though I am not agreeing with the situation (not that anyone will care about that though...Icarus wrote: But as stated before, its your challenge you've issued, so we have to comply with the demands.
) you do have a point there! Either accepting the challenge on the proposed rules or denying because of them is the actual choice I guess!? 
CIT wrote:Why don't you assign a random 3-letter scoring name to every participant before the comp, then you can use photographic evidence and you will be assured that the score is from the time of the competition.
Mame allows you to display FPS.Icarus wrote:
Even MAME inputs have their problems. A player whose PC runs a game at 40fps has a far easier time completing a game than a player who runs it at 60fps, and the input recorded does not make that distinction when the replay is played back.
You don't ask us to use the easiest way to prove our score, you "dictate" "us" the ONLY way to prove a score!!!BR1 wrote:Guys we just ask you to use the easiest way to prove our score.Icarus wrote:
Even MAME inputs have their problems. A player whose PC runs a game at 40fps has a far easier time completing a game than a player who runs it at 60fps, and the input recorded does not make that distinction when the replay is played back.
No, he's on holyday!Super Laydock wrote:
So 1 of your 10 is having problems as well using the proposed setup!?we are in nine (dont have problem of emu e real pcb)
'Cause we wanna make a fair competition: Input files cannot be questioned.Why not be more flexible and trust people on their word and have just pics allowed too!?
Displays the FPS of the machine playing back the replay, not the FPS of the machine that recorded the replay itself. There is a big difference. ^_-BR1 wrote:Mame allows you to display FPS.
Don't forget that people don't always require the fastest PC on the market to do their business. Those who mainly play on consoles and PCBs only have a basic system to surf and work from, unless their work requires powerful hardware. PC-centric gamers (FPS, RPGs, more recent PC games etc) will have faster systems.BR1 wrote:And come on: older WolfMAME doesn't require enormous specifications.
I think every PC since 2001 can properly run it.
Don't let SiK catch you saying something slanderous like that.Neverland wrote:want to take an example of randorama....nobody have in hands care its scores.... in italy this type of people is named of "GRANDE SPARA MINCHIATE" (great lieser in english) similar to Sirkaken (type of name dont remember a name fortunately)
WolfMAME displays also the recording speedIcarus wrote:Displays the FPS of the machine playing back the replay, not the FPS of the machine that recorded the replay itself. There is a big difference. ^_-
.Icarus wrote: Don't forget that people don't always require the fastest PC on the market to do their business. Those who mainly play on consoles and PCBs only have a basic system to surf and work from, unless their work requires powerful hardware. PC-centric gamers (FPS, RPGs, more recent PC games etc) will have faster systems.
The problem with tha PCB is that everybody could set the rom to "very easy", play with 327435342 lives and change extends...Plasmo wrote:this actually is the best idea in the whole threadWhy don't you assign a random 3-letter scoring name to every participant before the comp, then you can use photographic evidence and you will be assured that the score is from the time of the competition.
I used to play on a P2 233MHz with about 256MB of RAM. Trust me when I say that I know what it is like to have a slowass computer attempting to run MAME. ^_-BR1 wrote:I remember I used to play MAME on a Duron 700 PC six years ago.
I think that every PC that's able to run Office can run MAME, we aren't talking about F.E.A.R., Crysis or the Unreal Engine!
There's no worry about it. We'll manage with the current ruleset.BR1 wrote:Our team is talking about other solutions but I dunno if we'll find any.
No, I understand your point of view perfectly. It is very important to have some kind of proof of play when taking part in a high level competition. However, like I've said before, we would have liked to field our strongest team but cannot due to the restrictions based on proofing the scores. And again, we'll manage to deal with it somehow. ^_-BR1 wrote:Guys, believe me when I say I'm very sorry if somebody will be excluded because of Mame, and I can understand those who think this rule is too much tyrannical but I ask you just to put in our shoes: through the years we learned that the most important thing in a competition is the way to prove scores. This way everything can be crystal-clear: no fights, no discussions, no polemics. And this competition is meant to join our teams and play for fun: we don't wanna fight for a score AT ALL!!!
I wish I could explain our point of view properly.
How dare you slander me. Just because I am capable of greater scores than some people, and I don`t have an input file to go along with it, I must be lying? I`ve read (babelfish translation from italian to english) on some of your italian forums about some of you talking about two of my scores (DDP and Progear) and some people wondering how I got the scores. I recall one person saying something like "why don`t you ask him?" Never have I been PMed, or e-mailed, or anything about anyone asking me for advice, tips, or what I did to LEGITIMATELY achieve my scores. I played many hours to achieve all my scores, and I when I do sit down with a game I take it very seriously for the time I spend on it.Neverland wrote:ok but if I alter the settings can make a photo with a great score
this is only reason we want use emu and inp
want to take an example of randorama....nobody have in hands care its scores.... in italy this type of people is named of "GRANDE SPARA MINCHIATE" (great lieser in english) similar to Sirkaken (type of name dont remember a name fortunately)
ok if you dont want play with emu i announcement have make 540.000.000 to dodopanchi (lol) and make this with one eye blind
oh yeah i win! (not imp no photo...is real no? (hope you catch my joke))
