The WORST Shooter you have ever played...

Randorama · Post by **Randorama** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:40 pm

Storm blade is anonymous, not really that bad. Realization is somehow competent, it's just that...bah. I happen to remember some weird hack/clone/bootleg of 1942 that was literally unplayable, including weird things like planes teleporting onto you (i.e. dashing in half a second through the screen).

....Ghost pilots?

I represent HEAVY METAL. Nice to meet.

didn't notice my comment was ambiguous...do you still publish Corben's material btw?

Klatrymadon · Post by **Klatrymadon** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:52 pm

While we're all representin', I'd just like to remind you all to KEEP IT SAGOTH.

Oh yeah, I forgot about Ultra X Weapons. Someone reminded us all of that rancid scrotum with a lovely wee thread a few weeks ago. Fucking atrocious.

Turrican · Post by **Turrican** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:52 pm

Randorama wrote:You also need some boole cure, i see. Trust me! Georgie B. wrote excellent fairy tales! Maybe you'll stop asking for fairy-telling in Gradius! Or perhaps you'll grow up beyond 5 and stop being proud of the dust on your collection!

I might be older than you, judging from the photo. There's no dust on my games, and that's not due special cleaning, but just because I play them - you must have doubts on this 'cause I don't post highscores, but rest sure.
The only "pride" I get from my games is the physical ability to actually play them on the real hardware.

(and hey, at least my scores aren't inflated like someone at emuita told me about yours)

You were right on one thing, though; with the hot weather you really become annoying on forums.

Ops, sorry to keep this on-topic - about the worst shmup... Hmm I wonder if naming the worst ones is really gonna help who began the thread. I mean, some of the worst crap is also very obscure, either confined on 8bit home computers or such. You'd have to go into serious emulation research to "experience" these pearls.

qatmix · Post by **qatmix** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:52 pm

I actually like ghost pilots, its not up there in my top 10 or anything but I enjoyed it on the Neo geo.

R-Type3 (GBA) is poor due to the absolute cardinal sin of shooters. Bad collision.

Also well done for bringing up D-Force

That game is laughably bad I remember playing this in a butlins a long time ago and being gutted that I wasted my pocket money in it.

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:54 pm

Is D-Force a.k.a. Dimension Force?

Randorama · Post by **Randorama** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:06 pm

Turrican wrote:[
The only "pride" I get from my games is the physical ability to actually play them on the real hardware.

Yeah, story-telling at its finest.

(and hey, at least my scores aren't inflated like someone at emuita told me about yours)

Gemant has my replays. You should ask about those and get a good grasp about what you are talking. What are you doing here is the typical slimy, disgusting, repulsive italian delation - accusing someone of the gossips to be true when facts (again...) say otherwise. Not only is off-topic, it is also a proof of your ignomigny. You are taking seriously a demented individual who, at 30+, goes on forums to troll people because they don't recognize him as the alpha male of neogeo. But please, continue...

You were right on one thing, though

And oh so many others, "proud collector!". Should i really explain you why?

Turrican · Post by **Turrican** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:15 pm

Randorama wrote:You buy gossip, i see. Do you want some replays? Those persons actually have seen those but then go around lying. But ehi, you like fairy tales, so why should you stick to facts? Maybe the memory cards, so you can check inflations. Pretty disgusting, delation and lies. Beside that, you take seriously to people that spend their time trolling on forum (need to give you a link on their latest efforts?) while being over 30. Not surprising in the least!

At least I buy on something - you accuse me of not being a player with no evidence whatsoever. I wonder why. Not to mention the collection thread - I'm guilty to have started it. This is rather paranoid.

P.S. thanks, no replays. Actually, I don't care much about dick contests, and the whole argument I stumbled upon by pure accident. There's no conspiration against you. I'm sure you're a very skilled player - it's too bad that you're so full of yourself that you're only second to Recap around here.

Randorama · Post by **Randorama** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:24 pm

Turrican wrote:
At least I buy on something - you accuse me of not being a player with no evidence whatsoever. I wonder why. Not to mention the collection thread - I'm guilty to have started it. This is rather paranoid.

"Ehi, that guy is a communist! Vote me instead, i don't steal!" At least they buy on something! Brilliant! Oh, and the thread is by you. Sorry but there are specific psychological processes behind the collection fetish. But that's another issue.

I'm sure you're a very skilled player - it's too bad that you're so full of yourself that you're only second to Recap around here.

Recap has been banned, and you dared to use the worst possible argument ever, completely out of topic. And this because i invoked some bit of sanity in a rather dumb topic. There's a limit to patience one can have, and if people start saying gibberish comments about games because they can't distinguish between rubbish and what they dislike, there's something seriously flawed going on.

Annoyed comments presuppose for a remark to be obvious, bitching about an obvious remark denotes stubborness and any lack to be socially cooperative. Or, simply put, trolling. And you're defending the right for people to troll.

Sadly this forum lacks an ignore function.

Helm · Post by **Helm** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:29 pm

Sadly this forum lacks an ignore function.

Use brain switch.

do you still publish Corben's material btw?

Richard Corben is the worst shooter ever.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:38 pm

solid gold in this thread

Turrican · Post by **Turrican** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:40 pm

Randorama wrote:"Ehi, that guy is a communist! Vote me instead, i don't steal!" At least they buy on something! Brilliant! Oh, and the thread is by you. Sorry but there are specific psychological processes behind the collection fetish. But that's another issue.

About collection fetish:

http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?p=50090#50090

http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?p=57198#57198

The thread is by me. I conceived it, believe it or not, as a resource for forum members, so that they could easily pm to a game's owner and ask him questions on it instead of flooding the forum with debates like which rev of TFV is better. I also used it as a statistic tool; it was interesting for example to see which members were into the amiga market, which into the MSX one and such.

But I guess your prejudice tells you that this is another fairy tale.

Recap has been banned

(indeed! that makes you number one)

and you dared to use the worst possible argument ever, completely out of topic. And this because i invoked some bit of sanity in a rather dumb topic. There's a limit to patience one can have, and if people start saying gibberish comments about games because they can't distinguish between rubbish and what they dislike, there's something seriously flawed going on.

Annoyed comments presuppose for a remark to be obvious, bitching about an obvious remark denotes stubborness and any lack to be socially cooperative. Or, simply put, trolling. And you're defending the right for people to troll.

I wasn't defending their reasons to label a game "worst" - I just thought it was arrogant of you to just come, set what scientifically defines "worst" and then call people "n00bs".

Post by **Icarus** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:50 pm

Its getting serious again. Better grab some popcorn, Twiddle.
I'll have a pint of Carling as well.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:07 am

Neon · Post by **Neon** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:16 am

I wasn't defending their reasons to label a game "worst" - I just thought it was arrogant of you to just come, set what scientifically defines "worst" and then call people "n00bs".

mischaracterizing people's statements to win an argument is so lame.

Turrican · Post by **Turrican** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:25 am

Neon wrote:mischaracterizing people's statements to win an argument is so lame.

what's the purpose to win a quarrel on the net, come on. Perhaps I just misunderstood what he was trying to say?

And beside that, "worst" must presuppose "badly realized". In order to judge a game "badly realized", one has to have a clue on how a game works. Can't see many posters here with such a clue, including some people that should have been immune from n00bism...

ASK · Post by **ASK** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 1:44 am

Doesn't anyone else hate Bio Attack?!

Seriously though, what could possibly be worse than the Twin Eagle series? Something about helicopter shmups just rubs me the wrong way.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:43 am

Helm wrote:Does this forum really suffer so much from hurt feelings over people not loving the same things all the time?

Proof positive that you're new around here, heh heh.

Richard Corben is the worst shooter ever.

...though that's almost as siggable.

shiftace · Post by **shiftace** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:40 am

Icarus wrote:I've already said Fuzzy Shooting, and that one is so bad its good.

I think Fuzzy Shooting is a fine game that has no place in a thread like this. Sure, there's a few things you can say against it, but the game's too much fun to truly suck, IMO. So what if I get Game Over in under a minute, now and then, it's such a short game that it has to be that hard to be worth it. Nothing cheap or unfair about it, except maybe getting rammed at the edge of the screen, but it only takes once to learn that risk.

No, I haven't finished it yet, but I might try.

Helm · Post by **Helm** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:42 pm

BulletMagnet wrote:
Helm wrote:Does this forum really suffer so much from hurt feelings over people not loving the same things all the time?
Proof positive that you're new around here, heh heh.

I've been reading the forum long before I signed up, and delayed the latter action mostly because of e-mail troubles with this board particularily (I was told you've had some problem with spammers?) but I admit I mostly read strategy and highscores threads, so I'm not privy to this board's particular history of internet drama. But I've been online long enough to know it's mostly the same everywhere. Every internet bully is just like the last internet bully and they're all collectively not much more of a bully than the bully back in highschool. I'm not concerned with antagonizing the intellectual alpha male of the boards.

I noticed the animation in your avatar and I find it great, by the way!

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 1:21 pm

Helm wrote:I admit I mostly read strategy and highscores threads, so I'm not privy to this board's particular history of internet drama.

Check the "Worst Threads Ever" thread in the Off-Topic section if you're feeling brave...or foolhardy, heh heh.

I noticed the animation in your avatar and I find it great, by the way!

Heh, thanks. I actually used to change my av pretty regularly, but Twitchin' Sal proved a lot more popular than I expected, so he's been around for awhile now.

doctorx0079 · Post by **doctorx0079** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 3:42 am

CIT wrote:I'm gonna keep track of this thread, and see what 10 bad shooters get mentioned the most, or get the most attention, then I will open a poll-thread so we can determine the official shmups forum worst shmup ever!

So next time a topic like this comes up we can just mention that one shmup and be done with.

And no, I'm not going to put recognized good shmups like Gunbird or Psyvariar 2, that some people mentioned out of spite, up for vote - true bad shmups only, as recognized by the collective subjectivity of every gamer.

*BUMP*

You can start your poll now.

Gungriffon Geona · Post by **Gungriffon Geona** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:49 am

I'm seeing this as quite the Randrama thread all of a sudden.

At any rate, there is one shooter I can seriously say I hate beyond all for being horrible, but damn if I can remember it. it was a nes game with bad graphics (most everything was freaking green) and a weird "in-game select ship" thing that hindered more than anything. also, you fired slow-moving missiles at the ground to grab icons for some reason.

RoninBuddha · Post by **RoninBuddha** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 6:12 am

i found sigma star saga to be quite atrocious.

doctorx0079 · Post by **doctorx0079** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:41 am

It's still TRS-80 Silpheed FTW.

Alpolio · Post by **Alpolio** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:01 am

doctorx0079 wrote:It's still TRS-80 Silpheed FTW.

Damn. Just thinking about how that would play on a TRS-80 makes my brain hurt.

doctorx0079 · Post by **doctorx0079** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:33 pm

Alpolio wrote:
doctorx0079 wrote:It's still TRS-80 Silpheed FTW.
Damn. Just thinking about how that would play on a TRS-80 makes my brain hurt.

Exactly. Think bad 2600 game and you have the picture. I would like to point out here that there were many good games for the TRS-80 Color Computer. Sadly this was not one of them.

Alpolio · Post by **Alpolio** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 5:47 pm

The worst shmup that I can remember playing was an Atari 2600 game. Demon Attack. This was on the best sellers list and all of the talk at school was about the games coolness factor. The programmer figured out how to create large animated sprites on the venerable 2600 and everyone was going "Ga! Ga!" over it.

When I got it, all it did was put 3 demons on the screen which hovered pretty much in the same spot, flapping their wings and dropping bombs & firing lasers straight down. No attack patterns and no sweeping strafing runs which were expected in a good shmup back then. And when you hit one (which was rather easy), it would break into 2 smaller versions of it's self -- and then they'd do the same thing as the larger demons. Hover and fire their weapons straight down. Space Invaders offered more of a challenge.

I think that this was the first console game that was all about graphics with no gameplay.

FRO · Post by **FRO** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:39 pm

1. Divine Sealing (Genesis/MD)
2. Earth Defense, aka The Earth Defend (though I own it & is fun once in a while just to laugh at how bad it is) (Genesis/MD)
3. Sol Divide (any platform)
4. Project MEIOU (arcade)
5. Hector 87 (NES)

Those are my personal picks for top 5 worst.

MOSQUITO FIGHTER · Post by **MOSQUITO FIGHTER** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:07 pm

I'd say Strike Force Hydra on the GBA. What a terrible game. The game has a jump in it. I guess thats innovative. Everything else in the game is a completely terrible.

Alpolio · Post by **Alpolio** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:12 am

doctorx0079 wrote:
Alpolio wrote:
doctorx0079 wrote:It's still TRS-80 Silpheed FTW.
Damn. Just thinking about how that would play on a TRS-80 makes my brain hurt.
Exactly. Think bad 2600 game and you have the picture. I would like to point out here that there were many good games for the TRS-80 Color Computer. Sadly this was not one of them.

OMG! Your talking about the CoCo. For a while there, I thought that you were talking about Radio Shack's old business line of Z80 machines. I kept thinking, "WTF? Why would anyone try to do that???" lol!