Raiden Project

Turrican · Post by **Turrican** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:44 pm

Zach Keene wrote:So, in summary, you're hosed no matter which version you get:

Japan: forced checkpoints in Raiden I
US: screwy tate controls unless you have a Gameshark.
Europe: 50hz

pretty much, yes.

Neon · Post by **Neon** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:10 am

Thanks for setting me straight, I was under the impression that the first 5 levels from DX = the first 5 from 2, just with the new medal mechanic added.

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:53 am

Neon wrote:Thanks for setting me straight, I was under the impression that the first 5 levels from DX = the first 5 from 2, just with the new medal mechanic added.

As I said, RDX is a strange beast. "Training" is a single (but long) new level, "Novice" is the first five levels from RII, and "Expert" is eight (well, nine really) new stages with RII's bosses. Add in a new medal scoring system over top of all three modes, and the three choices you get for tunes to listen to as you play (the original Raiden DX tunes which sound like slightly remixed Raiden music, entirely new music, or Viper Phase 1 music), and what you have is a good game that's almost a hodgepodge of new and past elements in the Raiden series.

Now if we could just get someone to make a Raiden Anthology...

Turrican · Post by **Turrican** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 1:01 am

The Coop wrote:As I said, RDX is a strange beast. "Training" is a single (but long) new level, "Novice" is the first five levels from RII, and "Expert" is eight (well, nine really) new stages with RII's bosses. Add in a new medal scoring system over top of all three modes, and the three choices you get for tunes to listen to as you play (the original Raiden DX tunes which sound like slightly remixed Raiden music, entirely new music, or Viper Phase 1 music), and what you have is a good game that's almost a hodgepodge of new and past elements in the Raiden series.

Now if we could just get someone to make a Raiden Anthology...

It's not so uncommon - DX has so much new material to be a full fledged sequel, but since it used after all a lot from RII, they didn't call it Raiden III. Just like Street Fighter Alpha 2 Dash, except DX adds much more depth.

P.S. the Viper Phase 1 music is exclusive to the PS port, of course.

Limbrooke · Post by **Limbrooke** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 1:16 am

Good grief all the time I owned this game and never once did I realize VP1 music was availible.
I tried extracting the tracks onto pc but it never seemed to work.
Anyone ever manage to grasp the soundtrack for this?

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 1:44 am

Limbrooke wrote:Good grief all the time I owned this game and never once did I realize VP1 music was availible.
I tried extracting the tracks onto pc but it never seemed to work.
Anyone ever manage to grasp the soundtrack for this?

(Link removed - Ghegs)

Turrican · Post by **Turrican** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 1:55 am

Twiddle wrote:
Limbrooke wrote:Good grief all the time I owned this game and never once did I realize VP1 music was availible.
I tried extracting the tracks onto pc but it never seemed to work.
Anyone ever manage to grasp the soundtrack for this?
(Link removed - Ghegs)

http://www.vgmworld.com/catalog/index.p ... em_num=389

Limbrooke · Post by **Limbrooke** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:02 am

Turrican wrote:
Twiddle wrote:
Limbrooke wrote:Good grief all the time I owned this game and never once did I realize VP1 music was availible.
I tried extracting the tracks onto pc but it never seemed to work.
Anyone ever manage to grasp the soundtrack for this?
(Link removed - Ghegs)
http://www.vgmworld.com/catalog/index.p ... em_num=389

I appreciate both links.
I was considering to get VP1 INH set but I'm not crazy about the soundtrack, which is why I wondering as to the reason it not being able to extract off RDX disc.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 5:29 am

Turrican wrote:
Twiddle wrote:
Limbrooke wrote:Good grief all the time I owned this game and never once did I realize VP1 music was availible.
I tried extracting the tracks onto pc but it never seemed to work.
Anyone ever manage to grasp the soundtrack for this?
(Link removed - Ghegs)
http://www.vgmworld.com/catalog/index.p ... em_num=389

Worth it for the super play.

Post by **Ghegs** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 5:50 am

Remember the Forum Rules, people - linking to copyrighted material such as soundtracks is forbidden.

Post by **spadgy** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 9:29 am

Zach Keene wrote:So, in summary, you're hosed no matter which version you get:

Japan: forced checkpoints in Raiden I
US: screwy tate controls unless you have a Gameshark.
Europe: 50hz

Bringing an old thread here...

Can anybody confirm the Tate options in the Pal release? Do you have to lay with the controller on it's side if playing in tate?

Alternatively, how damaging is the impact of the forced checkpoints in the JPN version, and is tate mode in the JPN version?

Thanks.

Zuhzuhzombie!! · Post by **Zuhzuhzombie!!** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:55 pm

Is Raiden Fighters Aces playable on a US 360?

Post by **spadgy** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:51 pm

Django! wrote:Is Raiden Fighters Aces playable on a US 360?

Don't think so - no!. A real shame.

Any word yet on Tate in the PAL Raiden Project?

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:55 pm

I can confirm that tate mode is in the JP version, though I've never played Raiden without checkpoints, so I can't say much about their "impact."

OmniGLH · Post by **OmniGLH** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:54 pm

From FAQ

True TATE in Raiden Project (cheat device needed)

Hope this can help?

Post by **spadgy** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 6:46 pm

Cheers OmniGLH.

I had looked at that thread, but prompted by your link I re-read it and have learnt the PAL release has Tate.

Now I just need to see if the PAL version makes you turn your controller on it's side!

toaplan_shmupfan · Post by **toaplan_shmupfan** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 11:47 am

I can confirm that tate mode is in the JP version, though I've never played Raiden without checkpoints, so I can't say much about their "impact."

Raiden without checkpoints in single player mode means that when the plane is hit, one or two powerup items are ejected as the plane explodes and another plane immediately appears and has about a second of invicibility. (Two player mode always plays without checkpoints.)

So if one is very lucky, one of the powerups ejected will be a missile powerup and the other one will be a P powerup. Get them in the right order and full power missiles and firepower are obtained immediately. If the 10,000 point fairy was picked up, the fairy is ejected from the plane and immediately starts dropping additional powerups. In the worst possible case, only two shot powerups are ejected, and then getting a blue followed by a red (or vice versa) means switching weapons without powering up... especially during a boss battle, this can happen if one is trying to pick up powerups while also dodging enemy shots.

On the other hand, getting hit during a boss battle without checkpoints means that firepower will be very weak, more than likely forcing the use of bombs unless the boss pattern is well learned without using bombs, or unless one is fortunate to have ejected a P upon losing a plane. With checkpoints, there is at least a chance to powerup and maybe pick up an extra bomb before refighting the boss.

FRO · Post by **FRO** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:41 pm

The Coop wrote:Now that right there is crime. For such a deed, 50 hours playing only The Earth Defend on the Genesis

No one deserves such a fate...