Raiden Fighters Remix Collection

[Daygo2Duval]

initial impression - these are some pretty smooth ports.

I saw you did a 180 on this and called them "broken" and "unplayable", how come you changed your mind so completely?


Edit (not specifically for Daygo2Duval but a post in general ):
I found a video comparing them by the way, it's indeed too fast.

i only played a few minutes before my first post. when i got a chance to play a full run it became obvious the games are running too fast. hopefully they fix the gameplay as i think the rest of the presentation is solid.

[Darkseed_5150]

No way this launched without VRR. I thought that was the whole point given it’s oddball refresh rate. Need more confirmation.

[Starfighter]

I just read that it doesn't support arcade sticks, surely that must be a misunderstanding? I feel like I shouldn't read more about this matter until things have settled down and all facts are on the table.

[Bassa-Bassa]

Reminder that this is by the company that made this.

[Firehawke]

My worst fears all realized in a totally half-assed package. Damn. Good thing I still have two functional 360s.

[SavagePencil]

Is there a Japanese equivalent to this board where enthusiasts evaluate games for quality, where devs might (wishful thinking) get community feedback in their native language? More curious than anything.

[Creamy Goodness]

I just read that it doesn't support arcade sticks, surely that must be a misunderstanding? I feel like I shouldn't read more about this matter until things have settled down and all facts are on the table.

Where was this mentioned? And is this for all versions. That would be way worse than not even bothering with the frame rate.

Since it seems like this port is abysmal, how do these games run in FBNeo/MAME. Is the frame rate closer to correct there? I seem to remember when I tried to play it on Xenia the sound would not work.

[Starfighter]

Where was this mentioned? And is this for all versions. That would be way worse than not even bothering with the frame rate.

Since it seems like this port is abysmal, how do these games run in FBNeo/MAME. Is the frame rate closer to correct there? I seem to remember when I tried to play it on Xenia the sound would not work.

Reddit. It was regarding a single player and their specific stick though, so...

I tried the Xenia route just now to check if that would be an option (if I'm too disappointed with Remix when it arrives) and it ran beautifully. Sound working, 54 fps (I used Afterburner to check), extremely responsive controls, the emulator picked up my controller no setup needed. Nice!

[jehu]

I just read that it doesn't support arcade sticks, surely that must be a misunderstanding? I feel like I shouldn't read more about this matter until things have settled down and all facts are on the table.

On PS4 the stick works just fine. A bit of sensationalism I expect here. Game feels responsive enough, I just have my doubts about the game speed.

[Darkseed_5150]

Since it seems like this port is abysmal, how do these games run in FBNeo/MAME. Is the frame rate closer to correct there? I seem to remember when I tried to play it on Xenia the sound would not work.

In MAME, with VRR enabled, all these Seibu games with oddball refresh rates hover around 46 - 58 fps and play so much better, responsive, fun, etc. than any of the official releases so far, including Hamster. It's literally just a switch that gets turned on. I haven't played the new Raiden collection yet but my gut tells me they would've mentioned it in their PR at some point.

[Dazzymank]

It’s up on UK store too and Tiger Heli finally Shot trigger M2 great to see people didn’t have to mess around like me to get it

[utsunderthesky]

So is it bad or ….?

[Steven]

Just checked prices for the PCB for these... looks like it's a separate (and region locked?) motherboard PCB with game cartridges, and the prices are not completely insane by famous arcade STG standards. Huh. Might end up going that route if this collection sucks, which it looks like it might. I'll definitely stop by Mikado first because they have/had... uh... Raiden Fighters 1 and Jet? I have not been to Mikado for like a year and don't remember, but at least two of them are/were down there in the little Seibu corner on 1F with Raiden 1 and DX (and Garegga and Batrider are there too). There is always the chance that I will completely hate these games, so Mikado first, I think.

Is there a Japanese equivalent to this board where enthusiasts evaluate games for quality, where devs might (wishful thinking) get community feedback in their native language? More curious than anything.

On the Japanese part of the web, forums like this are very uncommon and for the most part don't really exist from what I have seen. Twitter (this is probably the main one), Youtube comments, 2ch, and Yahoo are basically it. Blogs and such are much more common than forums.

[Starfighter]

Since it seems like this port is abysmal, how do these games run in FBNeo/MAME. Is the frame rate closer to correct there? I seem to remember when I tried to play it on Xenia the sound would not work.

Wait... I never wrote that, what's happening?

[SavagePencil]

Is there a Japanese equivalent to this board where enthusiasts evaluate games for quality, where devs might (wishful thinking) get community feedback in their native language? More curious than anything.

On the Japanese part of the web, forums like this are very uncommon and for the most part don't really exist from what I have seen. Twitter (this is probably the main one), Youtube comments, 2ch, and Yahoo are basically it. Blogs and such are much more common than forums.

That’s sad. What’s the vibe on this title from the JP community?

[Steven]

Unknown, I don't check Japanese player opinions, just here lol

Amazon Japan reviews are generally pretty reliable. Those will take a few days to get posted, though. @wiki is also generally okay most of the time, but that's wiki, not a review site.

[utsunderthesky]

This sucks. These are some of the best shmups ever made and they were stuck on the 360., and bad PC and ios ports. These deserved better.

[PC Engine Fan X!]

What's nice about playing on the separate dedicated Seibu Kaihatsu SPI motherboard + all three Raiden Fighter carts setup is, the ability to play 'em in either "mono-phonic" or stereo sound if your candy cab supports stereo arcade pcbs (whereas with the single-layer SPI + RF rom combo jamma pcb, it's a "hit 'n' miss" deal as to whether or not it's endowed with a crappy Oki sound chip or the more desirable Yamaha sound chip on-board the pcb itself and "mono-phonic" to begin with).

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

[SuperPang]

I bought this on PS5. I laughed out loud when I switched to the "Arcade" picture setting to find it's the Scanline setting with a scrolling black band. We're dealing with a developer who watched some Youtube videos of arcade cabinets and assumed the screens did that in real life, so I think it's safe to assume this isn't an arcade perfect port.

[Bassa-Bassa]

switched to "Arcade" picture setting to find it's the Scanline setting with a scrolling black band.

Tempted to buy just to check if you're kidding. But I'd be contributing to not letting this company die once and for all, so I'll pass.

[seiatsu]

switched to "Arcade" picture setting to find it's the Scanline setting with a scrolling black band.

Tempted to buy just to check if you're kidding. But I'd be contributing to not letting this company die once and for all, so I'll pass.

I too am hoping this is a joke, but at this point I'm inclined to believe it. This leads me to believe there was 0 knowledgeable oversight on this project at all. What a shame for such a high profile title.

Aside from being a potential cash grab, I don't even know how this could happen. I feel that even if they decided to try to address the issues, the current team working on it might not have the competency to do so.

[Bassa-Bassa]

Well, if true, it shows they have the competency to code a brand new filter. I don't think you can find that elsewhere.

What's too bad is that Hamster already got an SPI emulator. They easily could have made a deal.

[jehu]

switched to "Arcade" picture setting to find it's the Scanline setting with a scrolling black band.

Tempted to buy just to check if you're kidding. But I'd be contributing to not letting this company die once and for all, so I'll pass.

Not a joke!

[Gojiguy]

Someone on STG.Rev discord is claiming the input lag is bad. No one has done a test yet afaik.

I grabbed an RF1 cart and spi mobo lmao.

[Darkseed_5150]

Since it seems like this port is abysmal, how do these games run in FBNeo/MAME. Is the frame rate closer to correct there? I seem to remember when I tried to play it on Xenia the sound would not work.

Wait... I never wrote that, what's happening?

That was my bad. I corrected the post a minute after.

[jehu]

Someone on STG.Rev discord is claiming the input lag is bad. No one has done a test yet afaik.

I grabbed an RF1 cart and spi mobo lmao.

Bad on what platform? PS4 feels okay to me. I wouldn’t say ‘bad.’ But tick up a few frames for Switch tax and it definitely could be.

It really sucks operating in an information vacuum; I have the game and I still have no idea what’s going on

[Some-Mist]

got my physical copy today, and yeah the scrolling black bar is a real thing. pretty funny

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[Starfighter]

My copy just cleared customs, so I bet I'll be getting it in a few days! But to be honest I'm just happy the same package also contains Esprade Psi, so there's at least something worthwhile inside.

Wait... I never wrote that, what's happening?

That was my bad. I corrected the post a minute after.

Did you...? It still says I wrote the part about an "abysmal port". Weird that, but no worries, let's not keep going off topic.

[SuperPang]

Oof!

https://x.com/randy_wadl/status/2027395 ... RmwEQY9IhA

[TransatlanticFoe]

If I understand this correctly... the 54 Hz option on the 360 port would have resulting in stuttering etc. on a regular TV via HDMI because the 360 doesn't support variable refresh rate. Hence it gave 60 Hz as an option.

This port removes 54 Hz as an option.

Neither "slightly too fast" nor "stuttery" seem an ideal way to play - so I'm curious as to why the 360 port was acceptable in the first place?

More concerning with this port is that I've seen reports that the difficulty option doesn't do anything (except for practice which removes bullets entirely), so a casual player can't even mitigate the increased game speed by dropping it down to easy.

Has anyone confirmed it allows for more than 3 credits, or is it just a glorified save state? In fact, does it allow save states?