Shiki 3 ported to PC in september

[Frederik]

http://www.insertcredit.com

I really hoped that this would happen and now it did. Lacking both the PS2 and the Dreamcast I am overjoyed to see this game coming to the PC. Insertcredit calls that game "awful", but remember how childish they reviewed Ketsui as being "too easy", while that guy just played it to the third stage (and probably never tried to figure out the scoring system)? I`ve seen replays of Shiki3 and I can`t wait to order it.

(Oh and it also says that there`s a new Raiden game coming while speaking of "gradual decline". I wonder what those guys put in their system to simply state their opinions as if they were hard facts. Ketsui=easy, Shiki3=awful, Raiden Series=gradual decline. Just looking at their forums with those bloated oversized avatars + 2000 pixels of signature turns me away from them.)

[Twiddle]

your concerns about them are answered best by these facts:

1. recap writes for that site
2. they universally regard shadow of the colossus as a good game
3. a sizable number of people in that forum regard radiant silvergun as a good game and compare every shooter to that and subsequently poo poo every other shooter
4. NEW GAMES JOURNALISM

[RoninBuddha]

your concerns about them are answered best by these facts:
4. NEW GAMES JOURNALISM

you win!

[Frederik]

I don`t really know what new games journalism is, but I guess it has something to do with an artsy and complicated attitude, pretending to be Japanese, insider comments, bloated egos and fashionable clothes. Correct me if I am mistaken Bah, I don`t care for anyone else than Stuart Campbell at World Of Stuart anyways. That guy is a genius.

[~Kid Icarus~]

your concerns about them are answered best by these facts:

1. recap writes for that site
2. they universally regard shadow of the colossus as a good game
3. a sizable number of people in that forum regard radiant silvergun as a good game and compare every shooter to that and subsequently poo poo every other shooter
4. NEW GAMES JOURNALISM

F'king superb post.

I wonder what machine specs you will need to run this game? The Shiki games aren't too hot graphics wise.

[Kiken]

Insertcredit calls that game "awful", but remember ...

No, just Recap calls the game awful. And really, his opinion about whether or not a game is good comes from whether or not it uses sprites or polygons. And that's it. And do you know why?

BECAUSE HE DOESN'T ACTUALLY PLAY ANYTHING!!!!

[Frederik]

Who is the recap guy anyway? Many people here seem to recognize his name.

[Dandy J]

Yeah, it's fucking Recap, he doesn't know shit from shoelaces.

And yeah it's just a general gaming forum, Ikarublah/Radiant Stupidgun worship ahoy.

SEE WHAT I DID THERE?! lawl

[Twiddle]

Yeah, it's fucking Recap, he doesn't know shit from shoelaces.

And yeah it's just a general gaming forum, Ikarublah/Radiant Stupidgun worship ahoy.

SEE WHAT I DID THERE?! lawl

two birds one stone

[BulletMagnet]

Who is the recap guy anyway? Many people here seem to recognize his name.

He was a member here a little ways back...he had an unapologetically abrasive (and oftentimes insulting) way of "discussing" things (oftentimes things that few others thought even worth the trouble of debating over), which eventually got him banned.

[dave4shmups]

Man, I wish that this would come out on PS2 or Dreamcast as well, I really love this series! Any chance that it will?

[GaijinPunch]

He's basing it on the graphics, to which I will agree -- as someone who's seen it in action, they are fugly as shit. It's Type-X, hardware that has yet to produce an aesthetically appealing games.

[Kaiser]

I hope Shiki 3 and Espgaluda II will be out for PS2 and DC

[gameoverDude]

I'm thinking there probably will be a PS2 port by the end of the year, especially in light of how well Raiden III and Homura turned out. Generally the Type-X games haven't had to sacrifice anything to make it to PS2.

No SNS game may have the best graphics out there, but the games I've played in the SNS series (1 & 2) have decent game play.

[roker]

last time I checked, a lot of people here dig Radiant Silvergun and Ikaruga

in fact, it was in the top 5 (right?) of the top 25 list for 3 years

I'm not one of those people that voted for it though

[GunSpike]

Insertcredit calls that game "awful", but remember how childish they reviewed Ketsui as being "too easy", while that guy just played it to the third stage (and probably never tried to figure out the scoring system)? I`ve seen replays of Shiki3 and I can`t wait to order it.

(Oh and it also says that there`s a new Raiden game coming while speaking of "gradual decline". I wonder what those guys put in their system to simply state their opinions as if they were hard facts. Ketsui=easy, Shiki3=awful, Raiden Series=gradual decline. Just looking at their forums with those bloated oversized avatars + 2000 pixels of signature turns me away from them.)

Just remember guys, any shooter is easy when you credit feed to the end.

And on another note, my friends who don't play shooters also regard Shadow of the Colossus a good game. Hmm...

[Kiken]

He's basing it on the graphics, to which I will agree -- as someone who's seen it in action, they are fugly as shit. It's Type-X, hardware that has yet to produce an aesthetically appealing games.

Be that as it may (let's face it, all Type-X games have featured sub-par graphics), his exact wording does not mention graphics and simply refers to the game as a whole:

"The game, despite the joint effort, is awful, and no better than the previous episode, anyway."

Sure.. for those of us familiar with him we understand that this is in reference to the graphics (afterall, Recap doesn't play videogames, therefore he would never be able to give an opinion on something like... oh... gameplay ). However, considering that this is presented as general information on the front page of the website, there ought to have been clarification. His troglodyte-manner is understood by all those who run the site, and his post really ought to have been edited (hell, all of his posts should be edited until they resemble something close to the English language).

[nZero]

I'm thinking there probably will be a PS2 port by the end of the year, especially in light of how well Raiden III and Homura turned out. Generally the Type-X games haven't had to sacrifice anything to make it to PS2.

Haven't had to sacrifice much, anyway. I don't know about Homura, but Raiden III did get slightly but visibly cut down in model detail and texture quality for the PS2 version. As far as I can tell, the PC port is graphically perfect, so this will probably be the case with Shikigami.

Anyway, I do expect to see a PS2 port of Shiki 3 pop up sooner or later.

[EOJ]

Shiki III isn't an awful game. It's pretty good. I played a few credits of it and if you like SnS II, you'll dig SnSIII. It looks basically the same and the gameplay is similar. And of course Recap hasn't played the game, he'd have to had gone to Japan within the past few months or buy a Type-X mobo + the game to do that, and I'm fairly sure he hasn't done either of those things.

[Frederik]

That`s what I expected. The Shiki series made a great step from 1 to 2, and 3 seems to be like 2 with better level design and much nicer backgrounds. Though I am one of the few people that liked Shiki 1, too - but its way harder IMO.

[DJ Incompetent]

your concerns about them are answered best by these facts:

1. recap writes for that site
2. they universally regard shadow of the colossus as a good game
3. a sizable number of people in that forum regard radiant silvergun as a good game and compare every shooter to that and subsequently poo poo every other shooter
4. NEW GAMES JOURNALISM

Much funny.

I'll stick with this to the end though. Shadow of the Colossus is a damn sweet game. I'll take ya all on


So say this game does get sent to PS2 in the US. What crazy title do you think XS Games will call Shiki 3 this time?

[Frederik]

DJ Inci (I´ll call you that way from now on so you better get used to it); if you make some more of those little Megaman sigs you could put them on a website. Though I liked the "you got lazy eye" more

[Randorama]

Shikigami III has a new feature, which basically consists in 10 seconds of x8 tension multiplier WITHOUT the need to be in the requested range, e.g. you just shoot stuff without scratching bullets and get the x8 while during this mode. It is activated by pressing A and B at the same time, and consumes one bomb stock.

The only way to get back a bomb stock is dying, so strategical suicide has become part of the game. Considering that the level design is tailored around this feature (there are many spots in which you really need to activate this feature to score properly), and that extends are periodical ( like, 400 M and then every 600 M), the engine has been consistently renewed.

Also, some new characters have interesting shikigami attacks.

Music is also pretty good, some good progressive techno and two-beat tracks. There are videos on Ikaruga.co.uk, also.

[DJ Incompetent]

Shikigami III has a new feature, which basically consists in 10 seconds of x8 tension multiplier WITHOUT the need to be in the requested range, e.g. you just shoot stuff without scratching bullets and get the x8 while during this mode. It is activated by pressing A and B at the same time, and consumes one bomb stock.

Isn't that the same crap the turned everybody off in the DDP:DOJ?

DJ Inci (I´ll call you that way from now on so you better get used to it)

lol, damn. Now I feel like a Japanese chibi Disk Jockey from America. Premise enough for a bad anime I'm sure.

if you make some more of those little Megaman sigs you could put them on a website. Though I liked the "you got lazy eye" more

Yeah, I'm sure my change-ups will go more downhill from here. I'll give up the pre-published source material after I go through the rest of its comidic value

[msm]

Shikigami III has a new feature, which basically consists in 10 seconds of x8 tension multiplier WITHOUT the need to be in the requested range, e.g. you just shoot stuff without scratching bullets and get the x8 while during this mode. It is activated by pressing A and B at the same time, and consumes one bomb stock.

Isn't that the same crap the turned everybody off in the DDP:DOJ?

I don't think there is anything like that in DOJ, but i could easily be wrong

This shikigami no shiro 3 port is great news, i really liked 2, the block puzzle mid boss thing is brilliant, is there more stuff like that in 3?

[BulletMagnet]

Isn't that the same crap the turned everybody off in the DDP:DOJ?

From what I gather it doesn't sound all that much like DOJ to me...at any rate, it sounds like the new feature is pretty much an "optional" thing to be taken advantage of by more experienced score players, so those who don't want to bother with it probably won't have to.

[Kiken]

There's a nod to Triangle Service in Shiki 3. At the beginning of stage 1 (or stage 2.. my memory is a bit fuzzy) you fly over the big rock robot from Trizeal (the one who throws the Lifting rock at your ship towards the end of stage 2).

[Randorama]

Isn't that the same crap the turned everybody off in the DDP:DOJ?

No. It actually sounds like you don't know what are you talking about, as well. Comment skipped.

[Twiddle]

Isn't that the same crap the turned everybody off in the DDP:DOJ?

oh god not a scoring system

edit: less red 24pt text

[Frederik]

Jesus, calm down, people.

I have to say that additional system sounds interesting, since it adds a whole new strategic element to it. I guess this it what makes that "wombidda wombidda" sound in the replays, and that`s way this one guy in the double-plays gets hit in the beginning. As much as I liked the original system, it was a bit simplistic. Shiki is one of the games where you seem to be able to improve endlessly since there`s always a milisecond of x8 grazing more you can do. On the other hand, that makes Shiki the king of stupid deaths.

I remember when that "instant x8" mechanic got mentioned and some people got worried that this would monkey-ing the game when its purpose wasn`t clear. Nice to see that Alfa Systems is putting so much thought into their products.