I'd like to pitch an idea for a switcher/Upscaler all in one!

[neorichieb1971]

Hi all,

Just putting this out here because I like all in one solutions.

Does anyone do a all in one switcher that supports svideo, component and HDMI in an upscaler box?

If not, any idea if the OSSC/Retrotink/RGC crews can make one?


I've never understood why companies make product that plugs into another product and into another product. If you know folk are going to use it with numerous systems doesn't it make sense to cover all bases in one box?

I don't want lots of cabling in my setup and it seems to me that is unvoidable with the current available options to me.

Anyone else wanting something like this?

[spmbx]

No, i like things that do one thing and do it well, and gives me more choice to choose the things i want / replace a single thing if it fails

[ZellSF]

Does anyone do a all in one switcher that supports svideo, component and HDMI in an upscaler box?

A switcher implies multiple inputs. The only s-video console most people are likely to touch is the N64. So you want to charge everyone for s-video switching when practically no one will use it?

I've never understood why companies make product that plugs into another product and into another product. If you know folk are going to use it with numerous systems doesn't it make sense to cover all bases in one box?

You don't know.

I think your pitch is based on the really bad assumption that most people have the same sort of setup as you.

[neorichieb1971]

Does anyone do a all in one switcher that supports svideo, component and HDMI in an upscaler box?

A switcher implies multiple inputs. The only s-video console most people are likely to touch is the N64. So you want to charge everyone for s-video switching when practically no one will use it?

I've never understood why companies make product that plugs into another product and into another product. If you know folk are going to use it with numerous systems doesn't it make sense to cover all bases in one box?

You don't know.

I think your pitch is based on the really bad assumption that most people have the same sort of setup as you.

Well Component and HDMI would do fine for me. Even HDMI x 5 would do fine for me.

Seems strange of the products that do come out. Like x number of SCART socket switchers and x number of components. But you don't want that in your upscaler built in?

I thought OSSC and Retrotink were the best at upscaling? Adding a few extras wouldn't be hard you're just putting more sockets in it.

[ZellSF]

Does anyone do a all in one switcher that supports svideo, component and HDMI in an upscaler box?

A switcher implies multiple inputs. The only s-video console most people are likely to touch is the N64. So you want to charge everyone for s-video switching when practically no one will use it?

I've never understood why companies make product that plugs into another product and into another product. If you know folk are going to use it with numerous systems doesn't it make sense to cover all bases in one box?

You don't know.

I think your pitch is based on the really bad assumption that most people have the same sort of setup as you.

Well Component and HDMI would do fine for me. Even HDMI x 5 would do fine for me.

And you expect this device to be made just for you?

The people who don't need 5X HDMI ports need to pay extra for it? The people who do need s-video need to find another scaler?

[SGGG2]

It drives up costs and complexity all while turning people off. That's why! Some people have one console, some have twenty.

[neorichieb1971]

A switcher implies multiple inputs. The only s-video console most people are likely to touch is the N64. So you want to charge everyone for s-video switching when practically no one will use it?

You don't know.

I think your pitch is based on the really bad assumption that most people have the same sort of setup as you.

Well Component and HDMI would do fine for me. Even HDMI x 5 would do fine for me.

And you expect this device to be made just for you?

The people who don't need 5X HDMI ports need to pay extra for it? The people who do need s-video need to find another scaler?

I am so so happy that AV receivers do not share that point of view. I mean, I will go to Onkyo/Yamaha/Denon and pray to them for the thanks of God.

[bobrocks95]

I thought OSSC and Retrotink were the best at upscaling? Adding a few extras wouldn't be hard you're just putting more sockets in it.

You have to multiplex them, and increase the footprint of the unit considerably. It's not as simple as it might seem.

I am so so happy that AV receivers do not share that point of view. I mean, I will go to Onkyo/Yamaha/Denon and pray to them for the thanks of God.

AVRs are a market a couple orders of magnitude bigger, and they get the luxury of phasing out legacy inputs as they go on. You *maybe* get ONE component input on some specific models, while everything else has switched to all HDMI by now. Retro scalers have to provide several inputs and account for several configurations as it is, and it's mostly in the analog realm where things are much, much harder.

That said, the OSSC has open-source in the name. If you wanted to, you could design and build an OSSC Pro (I assume the Pro also has gerbers, etc available but maybe not yet?) with 5x HDMI inputs if you really wanted to. Nobody has done it yet because it's difficult and you can just buy an HDMI switcher...

[SavagePencil]

Things like the SVS puts that customizability into the user’s hands. I won’t bite because I’ve already invested in the matrix switchers needed and it doesn’t support matrix-like functionality.

I also wouldn’t trust a single upscaler with 57 inputs or whatever

[neorichieb1971]

The views here are very interesting.

Can someone tell me what their Tink/OSSC switcher combo is please? I will review over them see if I can work with it.

Thanks.

[bobrocks95]

The views here are very interesting.

Can someone tell me what their Tink/OSSC switcher combo is please? I will review over them see if I can work with it.

Thanks.

I have a TESMart 16 port HDMI switcher for digital stuff (the older HDMI 1.4 version, all I need for sources going to a scaler)

For analog I have an Extron SW12 VGA Ars switcher, it's a 12x2 VGA+audio switch with a very small footprint. Doesn't help much if you have lots of source formats/cable types and aren't already invested in VGA. Two SW6's would be much easier to get these days and daisy-chain for 11 inputs in the same footprint- 2 power cables though.

[ZellSF]

My setup at the moment:

PS5 / Nvidia Shield > Directly to TV

MiSTer / PS3 > HDMI switch > RetroTink4K

Dreamcast (VGA) / PS2 (RGB SCART) / Wii (Component) > Scaleable Video Switch > RetroTink4K (via VGA)

HDMI Switch / SVS / RetroTink4K are all connected via their serial functions to a Raspberry Pi 5 running Home Assistant. Dreamcast / PS2 / PS3 / Wii are all connected to the same power metering smart plug. MiSTer is connected to it's own smart plug. This allows me to automatize switching entirely, but there are easier ways to do that.

I'm not too concerned about cable mess since I have places to hide away most things; nothing needs to be in IR range.