Did something happen to the JHA website?

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Did something happen to the JHA website?

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Sorry if I'm just way behind on something obvious but I was hoping someone here had information about the JHA scorekeeping website. I was doing some research on STG high score keeping from around the world for a video recently and wanted to check some scores on JHA. I remember doing this a while ago for this video and I used this link: https://wiki.denfaminicogamer.jp/highscore/ which now takes me to a "site cannot be reached" error. I read through this article by Plasmo who listed the following links to JHA and the endnotes:

http://www.jha-arcade.com/
https://wiki.denfaminicogamer.jp/highscore/
and the already defunct at the time http://www9.plala.or.jp/nakanoryuzo/HS/Front.html

None of these links currently work (okay well jha-arcade works but takes you to an SEO farming Wordpress site with nothing to do with JHA scores).

I did find this link to what appears to be an official JHA page, but it hasn't been updated in a while and the banner link that they include to the JHA archive is the inoperative wiki.denfamicogamer one I listed above. Maybe this is just a temporary outage and I was trying to view it at an unlucky time. Does anyone have any insights? Has JHA fallen in popularity or is there another Japanese high score keeping website that has become more popular? Thanks in advance for your help
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The main website is permanently down since the web host closed its doors a couple of months back. Fortunately, JHA is still alive and posts the newly achieved scores monthly on a new excel sheet which is linked from the google page you have mentioned. Direct link to the excel sheet HERE

They are also still active on their Twitter/X account.

Since navigating the excel sheet is not that convenient, you can right as well check the STG Hall of Records on the shmups.wiki which is regularly updated. The database holds every single shmup WR achieved from 1986 to the present that was published in the Japanese print magazines (mostly Gamest & Arcadia) and by the later JHA. Whenever possible, other sources (video links, Twitter posts, score pics etc.) are additionally mentioned. Therefore, archival work is now easily possible.

If you have any further questions, feel free to ask!

Note that the STG Hall of Records still links to the now defunct JHA leaderboards. I will remove these links in the near future.
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Thanks so much! Is there a way for people to submit scores directly to the STG Hall of Records or do you have to submit somewhere else first for them to later be aggregated to the site?
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is there anywhere non-shmup scores can be easily viewed?
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LookingForPants wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 4:05 pm Thanks so much! Is there a way for people to submit scores directly to the STG Hall of Records or do you have to submit somewhere else first for them to later be aggregated to the site?
I'm handling updates on the STG Hall of Records and if anything pops up in the usual places, I'll review it and add it to the database. As of now, there's no place to directly submit scores which is a pity tbh. Luckily, world records are such a time investment that I take notice of a player long before the big score is actually achieved. Nonetheless, I'm sure some top scores flew under my radar.

mycophobia wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 6:11 pmis there anywhere non-shmup scores can be easily viewed?
You can check out this blog by ZBL-Rajiame (not affiliated with JHA): LINK

Enter the (Japanese) title of the game you are looking for into the search bar to find the pages you are looking for. You can find every score for every game published in Gamest/Arcadia/JHA. This blog still receives regular updates on a monthly basis!
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I would love some player or country index in the future. For example, if I could search KTL-NAL and see a list of all his world records or former world records, or all world records from players from China.

Couldn't be somewhat easily done by every time you enter a new world record into STG Hall of Records, you copy-paste it into a new row on a single Excel sheet, with columns for player name, game, score, country?
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Plasmo wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 7:27 pm You can check out this blog by ZBL-Rajiame (not affiliated with JHA): LINK

Enter the (Japanese) title of the game you are looking for into the search bar to find the pages you are looking for. You can find every score for every game published in Gamest/Arcadia/JHA. This blog still receives regular updates on a monthly basis!
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mycophobia wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 6:11 pm is there anywhere non-shmup scores can be easily viewed?
This helpful spreadsheet is the best resource I could find for that, looks like it's still being updated regularly to boot. Also conveniently lists the highest scoring video replay for every game (as well as the top MARP & Twin Galaxies score, if that's your thing)
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Kino wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2024 12:32 am
mycophobia wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 6:11 pm is there anywhere non-shmup scores can be easily viewed?
This helpful spreadsheet is the best resource I could find for that, looks like it's still being updated regularly to boot. Also conveniently lists the highest scoring video replay for every game (as well as the top MARP & Twin Galaxies score, if that's your thing)
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Kino wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2024 12:32 am
mycophobia wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 6:11 pm is there anywhere non-shmup scores can be easily viewed?
This helpful spreadsheet is the best resource I could find for that, looks like it's still being updated regularly to boot. Also conveniently lists the highest scoring video replay for every game (as well as the top MARP & Twin Galaxies score, if that's your thing)
There's a reason I didn't mention this one. The spreadsheet does not seem to be updated consistently. For some games yes, for (many) others not so much. Therefore, there are numerous outdated scores or outright gaps to be found. This leads to a situation where you have to second guess basically every score and check somewhere else to confirm. The video links on there are taken from this forum's video index (without linking to it as a source) and also show a great number of gaps as they aren't regularly updated either.

While I can respect the effort that went into creating it, I can only recommend it if you have no other option available.
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Plasmo wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2024 6:06 am The video links on there are taken from this forum's video index (without linking to it as a source) and also show a great number of gaps as they aren't regularly updated either.
I believe we were judging it on it's merits as a resource for cataloguing non-shmup scores, in accordance with Myco's inquiry? If one was solely interested in shmup WRs, I'd link to the wiki's Hall of Records instead (which you've been doing a fine job of maintaining)
Plasmo wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2024 6:06 am The spreadsheet does not seem to be updated consistently. For some games yes, for (many) others not so much. Therefore, there are numerous outdated scores or outright gaps to be found.
Could you please point to some discrepancies in their scorekeeping? I spotted a few errors regarding the "highest scoring replays" they compiled, but at least at a cursory glance, every WR officially posted in JHA (as recently as Hamami's 3.07m in Top Hunter) has been acknowledged.
Plasmo wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2024 6:06 am I can only recommend it if you have no other option available.
If you find a better database for non-shmup WRs/replays, I'd love to see it! Having everything neatly arranged in convenient alphabetized columns is much less unwieldy than having to input each game name individually, in a non-native tongue no less. Not all of us have a M.A.-Abschluss in Japanischer Linguistik, you know? :wink:
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