Hey gents.
I am a bit ashamed to ask this as it’s probably very dumb, but here goes.
I have a RGB-modded Turbo. It has a Genesis 2 DIN-type connector to the side.
I wonder if I can plug this console into the CD base, and still output RGB from the console itself, and not have to deal with the composite output of the base. Not sure I’m making sense.
Cheers!
KG
RGB-modded Turbografx with CD attachment
RGB-modded Turbografx with CD attachment
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Re: RGB-modded Turbografx with CD attachment
Man, I use to know this, but no longer... I just can't remember! I think it depends on the mod work, but why not just try it? You can't damage it by testing it out!
Re: RGB-modded Turbografx with CD attachment
Yes this would work. Simply because you would already get a complete signal from the stock RF-port from the side of the TG16 console. Say you had a TG16 with a Turbo Nanza mod installed, with the video-out port swapped into place of the RF jack. There'd be RGB/S-Vid/Composite coming from there while the dock also output its own video signal.
Re: RGB-modded Turbografx with CD attachment
On Japanese setups (interface unit) CD audio is NOT routed back into the PCE. So, if you're using a RGB output on the PCE itself, you get video and PGM music and sound effects, but no CD audio. I assume it's the same on the TG16 CD attachment.
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Re: RGB-modded Turbografx with CD attachment
On my NEC Super CD-Rom2 Interface add-on, a modder added RGB output to it, so CD audio is outputted properly as usual (when hooked up to a PCE, Core Grafx II or a SuperGrafx console setup).
For Kind Grind, the TurboGrafx CD add-on would have to be RGB modded as well for CD audio to be outputted properly rather than using the TG-16 console's own RGB output section itself with the issue of dealing with just RGB video signal + PGM sound effects & music output but no CD audio output (this same audio situation occurs/applies when using the Krikzz Turbo Everdrive Pro flash cart if playing a CD-based game title on an RGB modded PCE/TG-16 console and not using the necessary Krikzz EDFX add-on with it on a Scart to Jamma setup hooked to a candy cab setup -- of course, YMMV with what you've got available on hand). If you use an EDFX add-on with a TE-P + MD2/Genesis 2 scart cable, proper CD audio is available at your disposal -- easy as pie.
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For Kind Grind, the TurboGrafx CD add-on would have to be RGB modded as well for CD audio to be outputted properly rather than using the TG-16 console's own RGB output section itself with the issue of dealing with just RGB video signal + PGM sound effects & music output but no CD audio output (this same audio situation occurs/applies when using the Krikzz Turbo Everdrive Pro flash cart if playing a CD-based game title on an RGB modded PCE/TG-16 console and not using the necessary Krikzz EDFX add-on with it on a Scart to Jamma setup hooked to a candy cab setup -- of course, YMMV with what you've got available on hand). If you use an EDFX add-on with a TE-P + MD2/Genesis 2 scart cable, proper CD audio is available at your disposal -- easy as pie.
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Re: RGB-modded Turbografx with CD attachment
As usual, very helpful. Thanks a lot.
Just for clarity, this is the mod that was done to the system.
https://retroconsolemods.ca/nec/turbogr ... ografx-rgb
I’d just plug it in to test if I have the system on hand, but I do not. One is available for sale locally, so I was wondering… It is a wonky-looking piece of tech, so is right up my alley, despite me having a Duo already…
Thanks a lot again.
Just for clarity, this is the mod that was done to the system.
https://retroconsolemods.ca/nec/turbogr ... ografx-rgb
I’d just plug it in to test if I have the system on hand, but I do not. One is available for sale locally, so I was wondering… It is a wonky-looking piece of tech, so is right up my alley, despite me having a Duo already…
Thanks a lot again.
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Re: RGB-modded Turbografx with CD attachment
Yes, the TurboGrafx CD add-on originally had a MSRP of $399.99 usd when it was first sold at retail brand new in the USA back in 1990. To get all the CD-Rom2 & Super CD-Rom2 games to run on it, a Krikzz Turbo Everdrive v2.5 flash cart with Super CD-Rom2 v3.0 bios (USA region) would be needed to boot them up properly (as it is running the supplied "stock" system card, it'll only run the older CD-Rom2 game titles at best).
Trying to source a geniune and rare NEC Super System Card v3.0 upgrade (that was distributed and sold by Turbo Technologies Incorporated themselves) for the aging TG-CD add-on is quite hard-to-find nowadays & and if found, it's not going to be cheap either -- by itself, goes north of $300.00+ usd quite easily. https://www.ebay.com/itm/135131664764?i ... R7Sel8yiZA Or just use a Hu-Card converter + a cheaper PC Engine Super System Card v3.0 instead (as an alternative cheaper method of playing Super CD-Rom2 games on a TG-CD add-on setup).
The TG-CD add-on already has "Backup Ram' installed internally from the get-go -- so no worries in that particular department. Just need to periodically power up the TG-CD to keep the B-Ram game save files from vanishing is your best bet.
The Krikzz Turbo Everdrive Pro doubles as a handy dedicated Arcade Card to play all Arcade CD-Rom2 games (including Ginga Fukei Densetsu Sapphire) if used with a TG-CD setup (or just use a Hu-Card converter + cheap-ass Arcade Card Duo or Arcade Card Pro to be able to play all CD-Rom2, Super CD-Rom2 & Arcade CD-Rom2 based games with ease). How cool is that?
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Trying to source a geniune and rare NEC Super System Card v3.0 upgrade (that was distributed and sold by Turbo Technologies Incorporated themselves) for the aging TG-CD add-on is quite hard-to-find nowadays & and if found, it's not going to be cheap either -- by itself, goes north of $300.00+ usd quite easily. https://www.ebay.com/itm/135131664764?i ... R7Sel8yiZA Or just use a Hu-Card converter + a cheaper PC Engine Super System Card v3.0 instead (as an alternative cheaper method of playing Super CD-Rom2 games on a TG-CD add-on setup).
The TG-CD add-on already has "Backup Ram' installed internally from the get-go -- so no worries in that particular department. Just need to periodically power up the TG-CD to keep the B-Ram game save files from vanishing is your best bet.
The Krikzz Turbo Everdrive Pro doubles as a handy dedicated Arcade Card to play all Arcade CD-Rom2 games (including Ginga Fukei Densetsu Sapphire) if used with a TG-CD setup (or just use a Hu-Card converter + cheap-ass Arcade Card Duo or Arcade Card Pro to be able to play all CD-Rom2, Super CD-Rom2 & Arcade CD-Rom2 based games with ease). How cool is that?
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Re: RGB-modded Turbografx with CD attachment
The cheapest way to get a TurboGrafx CD add-on is to get the TG-CD docking unit, a 100% working PC Engine CD-Rom2 drive & a proper TG-CD A/C adapter and you're good to go. Both the PCE CD-Rom2 drive and the NEC TG-CD drive are compatible/interchangeable with the TG-CD base unit -- it's just a matter of color preference in going with either one.
Here's a PCE CD-Rom2 Interface drive with a brand new 3rd-party 100v-240v multi-switching based A/C adapter included: https://www.ebay.com/itm/116227889466?i ... R4C0t_WjZA
And a TG-CD docking unit: https://www.ebay.com/itm/196521367368?i ... R5bz7vWjZA
It's much cheaper than going with a dedicated all black colored TG-CD add-on setup. Most second-hand TG-CD drives listed up for sale are in bad shape to begin with + they're marred with scuffs, scratches and the usual "wear 'n' tear" associated with them -- it's to be expected/the norm nowadays (unless you're willing to pay top dollar for a super mint & pristine scuff-free/scratch-free factory boxed TG-CD add-on bundled set in the four figure range easily). The trick of getting a brand new TG-CD setup on the cheap was to pick up one during clearance sales back in 1992-1994 -- of course, those days are long gone.
Honestly, I never did see a TG-CD add-on set for sale brand new in 1993-1994 -- it was just the TG-16 console and the Turbo Duo being offered for sale brand new during that particular point in time in the early to mid 1990s era (TTI made sure of that and that was still available at retail in the USA). The San Francisco, CA, based Toys-R-Us stores were still selling brand new Turbo Duo consoles at it's original 1992 debut MSRP of $299.99 usd back in February of 1995 (which I thought was insane when you could get one brand new on clearance for $99.99 usd back in late 1994 -- assuming you knew to look for one at that attractive low price). TTI, in January of 1994, made the big announcement that they weren't going to be selling new gaming hardware (meaning the upcoming NEC PC-FX 32-bit powered console wasn't going to be sold stateside, period) thus retailers that were currently selling TTI hardware & software were ready to start selling 'em at marked down prices to get rid of their remaining inventory -- making it, truly, the end/demise of TTI in the USA.
The real reason why the TG-16 went under a redesign was, the initial focus group said that it didn't look big enough/powerful enough (otherwise NEC wouldn't have had to wait a whole another year to properly introduce the TG-16 to the American video gamers' market when it could've easily launched in the USA back in 1988 instead of it's Summer of 1989 retail debut/release).
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With NEC's Turbo Express handheld setup, it was promised to be out in time for the Christmas 1990 shopping season for a mere suggested MSRP of $249.99 usd. That year, the 1990 X-Mas shopping season came and went without the TE appearing for sale whatsoever. It wasn't until January of 1991 that TEs finally arrived at retailers in limited quantities but with a new and revised MSRP of $299.99 usd instead. True story. Of course, NEC Home Entertainment (the American subsidiary of NEC of Japan) had TEs as early of October 1990 as I got try one out running the Turbo Chip game of Devil's Crush during a special Halloween 1990 event with NEC Home Entertainment (NECHE) reps from Illinois present. I couldn't believe how crystal clear and razor sharp the Epson of Japan manufactured TFT-based LCD screen used within the TE itself (which was bleeding "cutting edge tech" & NEC spared no expenses in selecting that particular expensive and impressive LCD screen setup) -- I was immediately sold on the merits of it's cool and positive appearance, overall heft/weight and overall handling with it's built-in responsive gaming controls. It wasn't until later that NEC would release/sell the optional TE add-on with the Turbo Vision TV Turner accessory that had an original MSRP listing of $99.99 usd -- eventually, it could be bought brand new for $39.99 usd on clearance back in December of 1993 at the American based Toys-R-Us store locations.
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Pro Tip: The 1st-party official NEC TG-CD A/C adapter outputs 11v (and the TG-CD drive requires 10.5v to operate properly) whereas with the PCE CD-Rom2 Interface A/C adapter, it outputs at 9v. Go figure.
PC Engine Fan X! ^_~
Here's a PCE CD-Rom2 Interface drive with a brand new 3rd-party 100v-240v multi-switching based A/C adapter included: https://www.ebay.com/itm/116227889466?i ... R4C0t_WjZA
And a TG-CD docking unit: https://www.ebay.com/itm/196521367368?i ... R5bz7vWjZA
It's much cheaper than going with a dedicated all black colored TG-CD add-on setup. Most second-hand TG-CD drives listed up for sale are in bad shape to begin with + they're marred with scuffs, scratches and the usual "wear 'n' tear" associated with them -- it's to be expected/the norm nowadays (unless you're willing to pay top dollar for a super mint & pristine scuff-free/scratch-free factory boxed TG-CD add-on bundled set in the four figure range easily). The trick of getting a brand new TG-CD setup on the cheap was to pick up one during clearance sales back in 1992-1994 -- of course, those days are long gone.
Honestly, I never did see a TG-CD add-on set for sale brand new in 1993-1994 -- it was just the TG-16 console and the Turbo Duo being offered for sale brand new during that particular point in time in the early to mid 1990s era (TTI made sure of that and that was still available at retail in the USA). The San Francisco, CA, based Toys-R-Us stores were still selling brand new Turbo Duo consoles at it's original 1992 debut MSRP of $299.99 usd back in February of 1995 (which I thought was insane when you could get one brand new on clearance for $99.99 usd back in late 1994 -- assuming you knew to look for one at that attractive low price). TTI, in January of 1994, made the big announcement that they weren't going to be selling new gaming hardware (meaning the upcoming NEC PC-FX 32-bit powered console wasn't going to be sold stateside, period) thus retailers that were currently selling TTI hardware & software were ready to start selling 'em at marked down prices to get rid of their remaining inventory -- making it, truly, the end/demise of TTI in the USA.
The real reason why the TG-16 went under a redesign was, the initial focus group said that it didn't look big enough/powerful enough (otherwise NEC wouldn't have had to wait a whole another year to properly introduce the TG-16 to the American video gamers' market when it could've easily launched in the USA back in 1988 instead of it's Summer of 1989 retail debut/release).
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With NEC's Turbo Express handheld setup, it was promised to be out in time for the Christmas 1990 shopping season for a mere suggested MSRP of $249.99 usd. That year, the 1990 X-Mas shopping season came and went without the TE appearing for sale whatsoever. It wasn't until January of 1991 that TEs finally arrived at retailers in limited quantities but with a new and revised MSRP of $299.99 usd instead. True story. Of course, NEC Home Entertainment (the American subsidiary of NEC of Japan) had TEs as early of October 1990 as I got try one out running the Turbo Chip game of Devil's Crush during a special Halloween 1990 event with NEC Home Entertainment (NECHE) reps from Illinois present. I couldn't believe how crystal clear and razor sharp the Epson of Japan manufactured TFT-based LCD screen used within the TE itself (which was bleeding "cutting edge tech" & NEC spared no expenses in selecting that particular expensive and impressive LCD screen setup) -- I was immediately sold on the merits of it's cool and positive appearance, overall heft/weight and overall handling with it's built-in responsive gaming controls. It wasn't until later that NEC would release/sell the optional TE add-on with the Turbo Vision TV Turner accessory that had an original MSRP listing of $99.99 usd -- eventually, it could be bought brand new for $39.99 usd on clearance back in December of 1993 at the American based Toys-R-Us store locations.
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Pro Tip: The 1st-party official NEC TG-CD A/C adapter outputs 11v (and the TG-CD drive requires 10.5v to operate properly) whereas with the PCE CD-Rom2 Interface A/C adapter, it outputs at 9v. Go figure.
PC Engine Fan X! ^_~