Is it pos to get cave boxes on there own

[Twiddle]

spine cards and pcb boxes are garbage, just like shrinkwrap foil. I´ve met people who would collect empty cans of coke, but at least they wouldn´t pay $100 for one.

You don't care about collecting, do you raiden? I wonder, do you take good care of your stuff? Or maybe you just own bootlegs. Cool.

anti-autofire elitist and a video game collector who probably doesn't even play his games

are you from neo-geo.com

[umi]

spine cards and pcb boxes are garbage, just like shrinkwrap foil. I´ve met people who would collect empty cans of coke, but at least they wouldn´t pay $100 for one.

You don't care about collecting, do you raiden? I wonder, do you take good care of your stuff? Or maybe you just own bootlegs. Cool.

anti-autofire elitist and a video game collector who probably doesn't even play his games

are you from neo-geo.com

You forgot your question mark, sir.

[Trevor spencer]

At the end of the day , id prefer an original box over a fake any day but when it boils down to it i aint gonna pay $100 for a cardboard box , no fucking way

so say £5.00 for a replacement just for storage is cool ,

im not into scamming people so i wouldnt care if it had a ZAK mark on it

dont get me wrong i love collecting stuff , but i have my limits and i think paying big bucks for a peice of cardboard is a bit over the top but everyone is going to have different opinions about this sort of stuff

so lets agree to disagree , i didnt want to stir up a hornets nest with this topic

Trev

[Ord]

At the end of the day it's a fucking cardboard box. It has no art, or anything of great distinction. Just a run of the mill $2.00 brown cardboard box, with a couple of stamps. It really is bullshit that people are prepared to pay high sums of money for a simple cardboard box.
Collectors truly are an insane bunch at times. I think it would be great if the market was flooded with these boxes. Hell i'm tempted to make my own Cave/AMI stamp and churn them out for the base cost of the box.

[Trevor spencer]

Hell i'm tempted to make my own Cave/AMI stamp and churn them out for the base cost of the box.

do it ord

[umi]

At the end of the day it's a fucking cardboard box. It has no art, or anything of great distinction. Just a run of the mill $2.00 brown cardboard box, with a couple of stamps. It really is bullshit that people are prepared to pay high sums of money for a simple cardboard box.
Collectors truly are an insane bunch at times. I think it would be great if the market was flooded with these boxes. Hell i'm tempted to make my own Cave/AMI stamp and churn them out for the base cost of the box.

Why all the jealousy over collectors? I can only assume it's jealousy, that's the only way the hatred could seem even remotely rational (though not justified). You might as well say an old stamp is a "fucking piece of paper", a classic car is a "fucking piece of metal", or that money is just paper or plastic. Shit dude, it's fucking *history*, and history CANNOT BE DUPLICATED :P Those boxes are not "run of the mill $2.00 brown boxes", they were created for a singlular and highly niche purpose, probably in the space of a few minutes, and have since almost all disappeared. It just so happens that some people highly covet that purpose and that tiny blink of history. If that isn't collector territory, I don't know *what* is.

In short, if you're not a collector, STFU, really :P Posts like yours really make you sound either jealous, or just close-minded. Pray tell, what do you spend your money on, sir? Leave us historians to our museums, and go back to your theme park! By the way, a museum doubles as a theme park after-hours (only without the spew on all the rides).

[Twiddle]

At the end of the day it's a fucking cardboard box. It has no art, or anything of great distinction. Just a run of the mill $2.00 brown cardboard box, with a couple of stamps. It really is bullshit that people are prepared to pay high sums of money for a simple cardboard box.
Collectors truly are an insane bunch at times. I think it would be great if the market was flooded with these boxes. Hell i'm tempted to make my own Cave/AMI stamp and churn them out for the base cost of the box.

Why all the jealousy over collectors? I can only assume it's jealousy, that's the only way the hatred could seem even remotely rational (though not justified). You might as well say an old stamp is a "fucking piece of paper", a classic car is a "fucking piece of metal", or that money is just paper or plastic. Shit dude, it's fucking *history*, and history CANNOT BE DUPLICATED Those boxes are not "run of the mill $2.00 brown boxes", they were created for a singlular and highly niche purpose, probably in the space of a few minutes, and have since almost all disappeared. It just so happens that some people highly covet that purpose and that tiny blink of history. If that isn't collector territory, I don't know *what* is.

In short, if you're not a collector, STFU, really Posts like yours really make you sound either jealous, or just close-minded. Pray tell, what do you spend your money on, sir? Leave us historians to our museums, and go back to your theme park! By the way, a museum doubles as a theme park after-hours (only without the spew on all the rides).

ahahaha the jealousy argument

i can't say i'd be jealous of anyone who doesn't want to even open, let alone play the massive collection of OMG RARE L@@K games they have, which they are collecting to make up for missing on just about everything good about life because of their antisocial behavior

[Dandy J]

Those boxes are not "run of the mill $2.00 brown boxes", they were created for a singlular and highly niche purpose

The sole purpose of putting some stuff into it, the purpose of every box.

[umi]

Those boxes are not "run of the mill $2.00 brown boxes", they were created for a singlular and highly niche purpose

The sole purpose of putting some stuff into it, the purpose of every box.

I wasn't fishing for asinine comments, but thanks for the thought...

Oh and Twiddle, not everything worth collecting is worth playing (much, anyway). Ignoring that, I consider myself a collector, but I don't chase sealed games, in order to avoid that very temptation. I take very good care of all my games though. Oh, and you're right... if I were to describe your post, I guess I wouldn't use "jealous", I'd use "vicariously bitter". :P

[Icarus]

You do realise the 'collectors' that go around buying and NOT playing their games, leaving them on their shelves to look pretty and gather dust, are driving up the fucking price for the rest of the people in the hobby who actually want to get and play these games?

A long time ago prices for PCBs like Guwange and Brave Blade were priced very low and changed hands quite regularly within the community. However it's nothing like that now when you have a select group of people going fucking crazy buying - no, actually the term used is "hoarding" - everything they can find, only to keep it in their little vault a-la Scrooge, never to see the light of day. The same people that reckon games equal status symbols. The same people that look down on the Sega Saturn shmupper for not getting a spinecard with every purchase.

Dear God, what the hell is wrong with you people?

Did you know that this selfish 'collector' mentality is spoiling it for the rest of us? Or would you prefer that every OMG R@R3 L@@K \/\/00T PCB ever released hit the price levels of the Neo-Geo stuff, further pricing out honest people in the hobby (which, in hindsight, would probably please these kinds of people)?

Just bear in mind that the majority of people want a game so they can play on it, not run into the street waving it about, shouting "OMG I GOTS ME A COMPLETE KETSUI!! AMICOOL?".

[ResOGlas]

I agree that the main purpose of games is to play them, but there's nothing wrong with wanting to own them as well. I'd rather have a playstation game with the case and instruction manual instead of just a loose disc. I understand that collecting arcade boards is an expensive hobby, but if you're into shooters you probably understand that many of the greats are PCB-only or super rare console ports. Just because many of you can't put your roms inside an original cardboard box doesn't mean that us PCB collectors shouldn't either. I'm not saying that emulation is a bad thing, it's absolutely wonderful that people can have a way to play certain games that they just couldn't otherwise. Whether you consider yourself as a gamer, a hobbyist or both, we're all sitting here reading or talking about them. While I could look at a Picasso painting and admit that it's nice, I wouldn't ever go out of my way to buy one. Only problem is many of you are sitting around all day downloading pictures of Picasso's to your harddrive all the time yet you claim that you don't understand why people want to own them. A bare PCB is a painting without the original frame. It does it's job just fine without it, but it's definitely cooler if it's there.

The moral of this story is that a box is no cooler than a picture frame...I think.

[SuperPang]

Erm, exactly how many of the people here with complete kits don't play the fuck out of them? I think by the very nature of arcade PCBs it's not going to reach NGH levels with people owning duplicates and getting more out of shelving them.

[ResOGlas]

Erm, exactly how many of the people here with complete kits don't play the fuck out of them? I think by the very nature of arcade PCBs it's not going to reach NGH levels with people owning duplicates and getting more out of shelving them.

I play every PCB I own, or I end up selling it for one I will play. In most cases complete boxed kits are too pricy for my blood, but I'm willing to pay a little more than loose prices for one with an original marquee I can display at the top of my cab. Most kits I own I just bought brand spankin' new and that's the only reason I own them as kits. In the end, in most cases I'd be happier buying 2 PCBs instead of 1 complete kit.

[Eight One]

Oh shit.

Looks like I helped bring about the chaos again.

[Ord]

At the end of the day it's a fucking cardboard box. It has no art, or anything of great distinction. Just a run of the mill $2.00 brown cardboard box, with a couple of stamps. It really is bullshit that people are prepared to pay high sums of money for a simple cardboard box.
Collectors truly are an insane bunch at times. I think it would be great if the market was flooded with these boxes. Hell i'm tempted to make my own Cave/AMI stamp and churn them out for the base cost of the box.

Why all the jealousy over collectors? I can only assume it's jealousy, that's the only way the hatred could seem even remotely rational (though not justified). You might as well say an old stamp is a "fucking piece of paper", a classic car is a "fucking piece of metal", or that money is just paper or plastic. Shit dude, it's fucking *history*, and history CANNOT BE DUPLICATED Those boxes are not "run of the mill $2.00 brown boxes", they were created for a singlular and highly niche purpose, probably in the space of a few minutes, and have since almost all disappeared. It just so happens that some people highly covet that purpose and that tiny blink of history. If that isn't collector territory, I don't know *what* is.

In short, if you're not a collector, STFU, really Posts like yours really make you sound either jealous, or just close-minded. Pray tell, what do you spend your money on, sir? Leave us historians to our museums, and go back to your theme park! By the way, a museum doubles as a theme park after-hours (only without the spew on all the rides).

Nah mate i'm not a collector, but I do buy games for playing. Hell, i've even guiltily taken advantage of the mad collectors out there and sold the Cave boxes I had for a small fortune.
But when does this madness stop? Personally I think it would be great if someone got a hold of those stamps and started flooding the market with cardboard boxes.

[GunSpike]

At the end of the day it's a fucking cardboard box. It has no art, or anything of great distinction. Just a run of the mill $2.00 brown cardboard box, with a couple of stamps. It really is bullshit that people are prepared to pay high sums of money for a simple cardboard box.
Collectors truly are an insane bunch at times. I think it would be great if the market was flooded with these boxes. Hell i'm tempted to make my own Cave/AMI stamp and churn them out for the base cost of the box.

Why all the jealousy over collectors? I can only assume it's jealousy, that's the only way the hatred could seem even remotely rational (though not justified). You might as well say an old stamp is a "fucking piece of paper", a classic car is a "fucking piece of metal", or that money is just paper or plastic. Shit dude, it's fucking *history*, and history CANNOT BE DUPLICATED Those boxes are not "run of the mill $2.00 brown boxes", they were created for a singlular and highly niche purpose, probably in the space of a few minutes, and have since almost all disappeared. It just so happens that some people highly covet that purpose and that tiny blink of history. If that isn't collector territory, I don't know *what* is.

In short, if you're not a collector, STFU, really Posts like yours really make you sound either jealous, or just close-minded. Pray tell, what do you spend your money on, sir? Leave us historians to our museums, and go back to your theme park! By the way, a museum doubles as a theme park after-hours (only without the spew on all the rides).

Nah mate i'm not a collector, but I do buy games for playing. Hell, i've even guiltily taken advantage of the mad collectors out there and sold the Cave boxes I had for a small fortune.
But when does this madness stop? Personally I think it would be great if someone got a hold of those stamps and started flooding the market with cardboard boxes.

Man, you really just don't understand, do you Ord? I can understand why you wouldn't want to pay some extra dough for a box or anything, but why do you condemn it so much? That makes no sense. You really just don't get it, do you?

[GaijinPunch]

Erm, exactly how many of the people here with complete kits don't play the fuck out of them? I think by the very nature of arcade PCBs it's not going to reach NGH levels with people owning duplicates and getting more out of shelving them.

I have four complete Cave kits:
Mushi, Galuda, Galuda2, and Ketsui. I've played all of them extensively. I've also played my non-boxed kits and bare PCBs pretty extensively too.

The sillyness of this whole thread is that there is no right answer. People spend a lot of money for a box. So fucking what? If you don't like it, sell your goddamn box! Make some money. Go buy some coke or a whore or something worth while.

[Icarus]

Man, you really just don't understand, do you Ord? I can understand why you wouldn't want to pay some extra dough for a box or anything, but why do you condemn it so much? That makes no sense. You really just don't get it, do you?

Way to provide the world's worst argument: unstructured, unsupported with fact or opinion, and trollbait to boot. I'm quite impressed. The art of debate has truely been lost on some people. Perhaps you'd like to enlighten us with the depth of your wisdom and explain to us 'clueless' types the meaning behind your argument.

[Rastan78]

Let's just say a certain someone had like $100 million. Let's say that certain someone would be up for taking maybe $1 mill. or so and getting the Cave factory to crank out some more official cardboard boxes. Do you guys think that would be cool?

[Trevor spencer]

Let's just say a certain someone had like $100 million. Let's say that certain someone would be up for taking maybe $1 mill. or so and getting the Cave factory to crank out some more official cardboard boxes. Do you guys think that would be cool?

Are you going to do that for us ,

[Rastan78]

Sorry, just joking about a recent locked thread that shall remain nameless.

[Trevor spencer]

i know the one , lol

[Twiddle]

ur just bitter cuz ur e-penis is smaller than mine cuz u r not <0|_|_3<70|2

gtk

[GunSpike]

You do realise the 'collectors' that go around buying and NOT playing their games, leaving them on their shelves to look pretty and gather dust, are driving up the fucking price for the rest of the people in the hobby who actually want to get and play these games?[/b].

I didn't realize all collectors did that. Heh, now who's making poor arguments? I suppose that would be a complete falsehood. But c'mon man, lighten up just a bit.

And you are incorrect Twiddle. I play my games a lot (while trying to have a life at the same time ).

[Twiddle]

And you are incorrect Twiddle. I play my games a lot (while trying to have a life at the same time ).

That's not what a collector does.

[Icarus]

Heh, now who's making poor arguments? I suppose that would be a complete falsehood.

So tell me, skippy. Enlighten me with this mystical piece of knowledge that will change my opinion on the 'hoarder-collector' mentality. The suspense is killing me.

[GunSpike]

And you are incorrect Twiddle. I play my games a lot (while trying to have a life at the same time ).

That's not what a collector does.

What? Play their games, or try to have a life? (Sorry, couldn't resist that)

And Icarus, I think it's just cool to have the box and everything. That's it. Sorry I couldn't blow your mind or anything. Well, whatever, I don't even remember why we got into this argument (guess I could read the previous messages...). I'm outta here for now. Later fellas.

[jpj]

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[freddiebamboo]

At the end of the day it's a fucking cardboard box. It has no art, or anything of great distinction. Just a run of the mill $2.00 brown cardboard box, with a couple of stamps. It really is bullshit that people are prepared to pay high sums of money for a simple cardboard box.
Collectors truly are an insane bunch at times. I think it would be great if the market was flooded with these boxes. Hell i'm tempted to make my own Cave/AMI stamp and churn them out for the base cost of the box.

Best post of the thread.

Trust collectors to take something fun and focus on anything but the actual fun part.

I can barely understand paying £££'s for the art that comes with them, cardboard bloody boxes is one step too far.

[GaijinPunch]

I still don't understand all the bickering. I've never seen so many people getting bent out of shape over what other people (most of whom they've never seen) spend their money on.