No interest / demand for a PS2 ODE?

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Re: No interest / demand for a PS2 ODE?

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drncurry wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 7:56 pm
ASDR wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:47 pm Mine still works after all these years but the console will go into server-grade-fan-noise mode just sitting on the XMB. I guess the paste under the heatspreader for RSX/Cell must be bone dry. And the caps will likely die soon as well. Just not worth the effort keeping that thing alive IMHO.
Agreed with your assessment. Mine had similar symptoms and I re-pasted it last weekend which fixed it. RSX went from 70C idle to 30-40C idle.
No, I meant under the heat spreader, not the heatsink. Changing thermal paste between heat spreader / heat sink had absolutely zero effect. I didn't want to delid my chips, seemed like something that I'd need special equipment for and had a high chance of going awry. The issue is they used a thermal interface material under the chip heat spreader that had poor a lifetime :/
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Oh yeah definitely pay someone to delid, nothing I would ever trust myself to do. Of course it will cost as much as buying a Slim PS3 probably. I know a chip swap would.
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bobrocks95 wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 8:54 pm Oh yeah definitely pay someone to delid, nothing I would ever trust myself to do. Of course it will cost as much as buying a Slim PS3 probably. I know a chip swap would.
I just bought a slim and put the PS3 fat in the display shelf ;-) PS2 compatibility would've been nice to have, but having a PS2 in an OSSC/HDTV setup and a PS2 in a CRT setup both running FMCB/OPL I don't see why I'd ever need to use it, so it just wouldn't be worth it.
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Re: No interest / demand for a PS2 ODE?

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tongshadow wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 1:13 pm
azmun wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 8:25 am
tongshadow wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:56 pmI dont understand the need of wanting every mod for every console. First we had the silly PicoPSUs that are nowhere as good as a properly engineered OEM PSU, and now we want ODEs that take away features from the console and perform worse than solutions that have existed for decades...
I agree. Sometimes we get preoccupied or distracted over trivial matters. An extension of the law of diminishing returns is negative utility.

However, a PS2 ODE is not one such undertaking. For some of us (me included) the current options are not acceptable. While having a laser repaired/replaced is a very viable option, they have a shorter lifespan and you still need to find someone with experience to troubleshoot / install. The ease of use and convenience of ODEs (like flash carts) are not to be taken for granted.

I have few pet peeves among your current "solutions." First, I must have been living in a cave if they've been around for "decades." I'm not a huge fan of external devices (looking at slim and not phat variants). The HDD/SDD you mention apply only to specific models of the PS2. The rest will require advanced modifications. I also don't like tinkering with menus, settings, etc. As much as possible, I like my setup to be plug and play. Yes, we will most likely (but not necessarily) lose optical drive functionality (e.g. Satiator, upcoming Flippy Drive, SSDS3, among others) but that is a fair trade-off. While I occasionally watch DVDs using my PS2, it's not the most optimal thing to do.

While I respect your opinion regarding a PS2 ODE and why it doesn't appeal to you, I believe it's something that would serve the community well and that is long overdue.
Interesting perspective, but creating a PS2 ODE isnt a simple task would likely be more expensive than the XStation, the best ODE solution for the PS1.
Anyone willing to undertake this ordeal will need to that keep in mind.

As for the PS2 Slim you have a good point, however a more interesting solution is in the making...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PxuZu9F5pw
For all the hurdles I have already over come with building out my ps2, price is no barier to me. With a modbo, pixel fx, reps2 psu and soon to be methylene I have spent over $400 in mod kits and part. Then factor in that I did this all twice to make one for my niece for christmass. I have spent well over a grand by this point so we can have the perfect set of ps2. Now when it comes to fixing the dead lasers I hit a dead end. I ordered one set from ebay and two from ali express. All of them show up dead with no esd blob. I tryed tuning each one to getting it set and none will work. Last shot is ordering from total console(wish me luck). I can only think this will get worse in the future. I wont settle at just ps2 games on hdd and no psx because popstarter is horid. I would pay $350-400 each for a proper ode even with a complecated install. Whoever makes an ode definetly could charge a primium for them and they would still sell even if they made them in small batch releases.
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ZellSF wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 7:53 am OPL compatibility with a HDD seems to be at 98+%. And HDD compatible PS2s are cheap.

I'm sure there's a market for a PS2 ODE, but it's not as necessary as for other consoles.
A PS2 ODE would solve the PS1 backward compatability issues that OPL has. OPL will never be able to properly load Ps1 games because the PS1 chip is used as the harddrive controller by the PS2.
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Is it true that the new MMCE protocol works better on SCPH-700XX than the later slim models because the Memory Card ports became slower with the slim's redesign? I'm seeing contradicting claims. Was thinking of getting me a Mem Card Pro 2 to try out, but if the compatibility is not much better than with USB, I'll pass.
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Robarino wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 4:14 am
ZellSF wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 7:53 am OPL compatibility with a HDD seems to be at 98+%. And HDD compatible PS2s are cheap.

I'm sure there's a market for a PS2 ODE, but it's not as necessary as for other consoles.
A PS2 ODE would solve the PS1 backward compatability issues that OPL has. OPL will never be able to properly load Ps1 games because the PS1 chip is used as the harddrive controller by the PS2.
This really doesn't seem like something you'd sign up to a forum to reply about, so not sure I'm clarifying for a human or not, but:

You get a PSX for that. Or a MiSTer, that's likely going to be more accurate than a PS2 too.

That said, the developer of DKWDRV seems convinced USB loading can work fine on Deckard consoles. You can even try it already, but CDDA/XA isn't implemented yet.
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Re: No interest / demand for a PS2 ODE?

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Personally I'd go for a PS2 ODE. Having suffered my share of compatibility glitches and weirdness with OPL etc, something that solves this weirdness would be good. I mean assuming an ODE would be 100% compatible and as we've seen that's not always the case.

I'd need it to have support for all the cool stuff OPL has though, like GameID for Morph/Memcard Pro especially, and preferably networking etc or at least an easier way of getting the games on than having to remove a HDD.

Probably the market is too niche. Being an Amiga fanboy my other wish is for a CD32 ODE, Amiga has had WHDLoad for years which basically patched every floppy only game to run from HDD and is a great achievement, but the handful of CD32 games with digital audio soundtracks are still unsupported (or they just play sans-soundtrack), you can't even start them from HDD and have the CD in the drive.

Anyway, I digress.
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