The vagrant wrote:
what's your point? my point was to show tht MD has much more shmups than the SNES, and thus, more quality ones (of course more crappy ones too, i mean wtf XDR??)
this is not to say that SNES doesnt have good ones, not at all, but i just saidd the truth, sorry.
ps: the fact that half the shmuppers find super aleste way too long serves me right.
all i see people say now about super aleste is "yea but you discovered the game recently so you cant really appreciate it"
uhh...how comes you cant say that about TF, or even salamander!?
Well, one could agree with your point or conclusions, but you tried to demonstrate them in a dishonest way. How can you sum the Snes' finest crop like: "Twinbee (meh)"... WHAT THE HECK MEANS TWINBEE MEH!?! I BOUGHT MY SNES TO PLAY THAT GAME.
Huh sorry, nothing personal, really.
Then, let's continue... You say R-Type 3, "supposed to be good". If no other review convinced you of that, trust me: it is indeed good. You can put it among the Good.
And quoting Axelay
en passant... do you realize Axelay is better than half the shmups on the MD?
Finally, Super Aleste... It's long. Sounds a lot like "oh, my how can I badmouth this masterwork... Hey, great idea! It's long!" Yeah, right.
Finally... Statistics are not an exact science. you can assume that, with more shmups on Megadrive, the chance to have more good games increases. And yet, that's no written law.
In my opinion a lot of old MD shmups are really derivative and generic... even if they go for $200 on ebay. I shall make no names.
My point before was to show that despite one system being buit for speed, while the other being a lot slower (and therefore unfit for shmups), in the end programmers worked hard to overcome Snes flaws and to use at max its strongest points. Axelay being a great example of this.
Do I agree with you that since MD has more shmups, it has also more "quality"? No, that's debatable. They're quite even, in fact. I have a bunch of megadrive shmups but among them, only TFIII and TFIV are absolute masterworks. Musha Aleste is definitely another one. No other ranks in this category. Gynoug is good, and some Toaplan ones are okay I guess (let's say fire shark).
As you can see, I didn't name many more titles than you named for Snes. And you did mention just Parodius, while all 3 parodius games are excellent, and didn't mention Area 88...
Bottom line: the Snes lacks in quantity, but not in quality.
P.S. According to the Xenocide files, Psone has around twenty entries more than the Sega Saturn (just like the genesis has twenty or so more than the Snes)... I guess of course you think Psone to have more quality shmups because of this?