laki2128 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 8:39 pm
tongshadow wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 7:57 pm
If you're on a budget, then I suppose a good CRT monitor could deliver a good performance compared to cheap flat panels. But a good modern display will outperform any CRT for PC use, specially now that high performance OLED monitors are finally available.
In contrast, the PVM will always remain relevant due to being a high quality analog display, there's really no modern replacement or equivalent to it.
What are you talking about. You have clearly never used CRTs. Crts (at least for me) provide no eye strain, better contrast ratio than any lcd panel, way better response time, refresh rate and motion clarity, better black floor and more. OLED's are better contrast-wise and black level wise, but do not have better refresh rate OR motion clarity/response time. The CRT monitor can produce images better than any PVM made (apart from maybe the BVM-A32). There is NO equivalent to the CRT monitor. CRT monitors are also analog.
Sorry for the rant lol.
Why are you so quick to assume I havent? Having owned numerous CRTs, and other display technologies, I understand that are advantages and downsides to each of them. None of them are perfect but there's a sweet spot where the sum of the advantages is bigger than the downsides, and taking into account a modern context, CRT monitors are below LCDs and OLEDs.
Response times.
OLEDs are nearly instantenous as well, and the fastest LCDs are quick enough to not cause ghosting. If you're refering to display lag, most of them are below 10ms@60hz. If we're talking about 360hz displays it gets as low as 2ms. So even if we assume CRTs have "0ms display lag", is this difference big enough to justify using one?
Contrast ratio.
Some LCDs already offer local dimming, so if contrast ratio is important to you these models are available.
Refresh Rate
This is where CRTs lose, they can only reach higher refresh rates by sacrificing resolution, reducing picture quality considerably. I dont know how fast your CRT is, but try using it at 144hz. It will only be possible at very low resolutions and it WONT look pretty. Consider that even cheap LCDs can do 144hz but at much higher resolutions, improving picture quality and fidelity, and you'll see CRTs lose in this area.
Motion Clarity
CRTs at 60hz are better than LCD and OLEDs. Hah, bet you didnt expect that. However this is mostly due to manufacturers being lazy, good BFI/Strobing implementation are capable of greatly improving motion clarity and closing the gap between LCD/OLEDs and CRTs. Look at how good the Viewsonic XG2431 LCD is at 60hz:
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BenQ's DyAc+ and ULMB2 are also impressive, even though they only work at higher refresh rates (which is ideal for modern content anyways):
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The only advantage the CRT has here is at 60hz. But there's also another option for 60hz content that has none of the CRT issues: Plasma TVs (yes, I'll always mention them whenever possible

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And now it's time to mention the flaws. CRTs have issues when it comes to scalability (no large sizes available), geometry, uniformity (focus/convergence/purity), resolving higher resolutions and text clarity. Also, the fact that majority of content is 16:9, and most CRTs are 4:3, means there will be even more loss in resolution (aka black bars). I'm also ignoring the fact most CRTs are worn out by now, potentially making the picture even less than ideal.
Overall, the only area where CRTs still fare better than modern offerings are: Motion Clarity and maybe Contrast Ratio. In all other aspects modern displays perform just as good or better, without none of the issues CRT technology has AND while also offering modern technologies like VRR and HDR. Motion Clarity can be mitigated by choosing a display that has good Strobing/BFI implementation, and Contrast Ratio by choosing LCDs with local dimming zones or an OLED. In this case, any advantages the CRT still has just become smaller and harder to justify.
And that's why, imo, it makes little sense to use CRT if one can afford a better modern display, all things considered. CRTs are still cool for old games though.