Prelude to the Apocalypse

[Mischief Maker]

I mean, at least we could fucking try it

They did!

...for rats.

[BryanM]

People who die under socialism die because of socialism. People who die under capitalism die because of their own fault.

The evil scourge of affordable or free insulin must be purged from this world ;_;

"Private property" and "personal property" are two entirely distinct and different concepts. You can still own stuff, but a lot of people would own a bit more and a few people would own a whole lot less.

I agree with Kyle on this one, any slogan where you have to define terms to explain what you're trying to say is a bad slogan.

"End rents" and "end wage theft" are much better lines. The authcaps use orwellian doublespeak with every breath they take, it morphs and twists itself multiple times a year to optimize its way to wiggle the worms into people's brains.... and hardcore leftists won't even bother to update language from books from two hundred years ago. For revolutionaries, it's an odd devotion to symbols and tradition to theory.

Like I've mentioned before, if --> I <-- didn't know what exactly someone meant by the abolition of money, there's a problem there.

When the "rent is too damn high" party, meant more as a joke, has more effective messaging...

[Mischief Maker]

I agree with Kyle on this one, any slogan where you have to define terms to explain what you're trying to say is a bad slogan.

Big! Structural! Bailey!

Ask me what the two pennies symbolize!

[Air Master Burst]

"Private property" and "personal property" are two entirely distinct and different concepts. You can still own stuff, but a lot of people would own a bit more and a few people would own a whole lot less.

I agree with Kyle on this one, any slogan where you have to define terms to explain what you're trying to say is a bad slogan.

It's not my slogan, it's a deeper dive into my beliefs. My slogan is closer to "Free shit for everyone!"

[Hoagtech]

. My slogan is closer to "Free shit for everyone!"

And that’s a dumbass slogan!

[Mischief Maker]

. My slogan is closer to "Free shit for everyone!"

And that’s a dumbass slogan!

Whereas the current mainstream slogan, "Do with less so we can give free shit to this guy:"



Based and redpilled!

[Hoagtech]

. My slogan is closer to "Free shit for everyone!"

And that’s a dumbass slogan!

Whereas the current mainstream slogan, "Do with less so we can give free shit to this guy:"



Based and redpilled!

You guys should run this guys clothes business the way you adore this “puffy” man

[BryanM]

I really do wish Wyatt would wear an undershirt with those things.

Tzeentch is such a better god to worship than Wyatt, authcap bros. Tzeentch would never blow $250,000 on a stupid ring for some golddigger to hock. Tzeentch would bring us all to utopia instead~

... except for his plots that counteract his other plots that wrap around to everyone getting a free tostada in final summation, instead. Still, a better deal than false idols like Yahweh who isn't even real so when you think you're giving him your money, you're really just giving it to some random grifter con-man.

"Give me 10% of your money and I'll get you into heaven bro, no questions asked. Don't spend that 10% on trying to build a heaven here on earth, that's stupid and selfish. GIVE IT TO ME."

[BulletMagnet]

You guys should run this guys clothes business the way you adore this “puffy” man

You do realize this is essentially another version of the kindergarten-caliber "calling someone else racist is worse than actually being racist" canard; just replace "racist" with "plutocratic". Folks like yourself are the ones constantly and proudly bankrolling and empowering people like him in exchange for the "personal freedom" to treat other people like trash without anyone being able to so much as criticize you for it; the reason you see reminders of that so frequently is because you keep on doing it.

[emphatic]

late-stage capitalism that is LITERALLY DESTROYING THE PLANET.

Ah, the ruse where you pretend to care about the environment so you can implement/force communism without the plebs suspecting anything until they starve and trample each other, just like every other time. There is no such thing as a free lunch.

[Air Master Burst]

There is no such thing as a free lunch.

Demonstrably false!

[Sengoku Strider]

Ah, the ruse where you pretend to care about the environment so you can implement/force communism without the plebs suspecting anything until they starve and trample each other, just like every other time.

Ooh, do you have more of these? I love this stuff.

[orange808]

Know why I hate Hillary? That asshole poisoned the well.

When I ask you guys to dial it back from impossible communism to attainable socialism, her bullshit disingenuous claims of what it is "realistic" (and is not) get in the way. I can't even ask anyone to take a step back from idealism, because she already redefined the word "realistic"; thanks to that asshole, we can't even have a conversation.

Fuck.

With that said, we can strike a balance. The billionaires can still be billionaires. "Postwar boom" wealth and income distribution would be a big improvement.

[Sengoku Strider]

Know why I hate Hillary? That asshole poisoned the well.

When I ask you guys to dial it back from impossible communism to attainable socialism, her bullshit disingenuous claims of what it is "realistic" (and is not) get in the way. I can't even ask anyone to take a step back from idealism, because she already redefined the word "realistic"; thanks to that asshole, we can't even have a conversation.

Fuck.

[Mischief Maker]

The well was completely poisoned loooooooooong before Hillary was even born.

If there's one tactic of the right the left desperately needs to adopt, it's their ability to discard labels the instant they stop being useful:

"No, we're not neo-nazis, we're the alt-right." *Charlottesville Nazi Riot* "Alt-right who? We're paleo-cons!" and so on and so on.

Meanwhile fucking leftists can't leave their precious academic terminology behind, even if it's been maligned by a century of propaganda, because how else could they virtue-signal that they read theory?

A great idea I heard a while back was that antifa black-bloc should rebrand themselves as the red-white-and-blue-bloc, taking advantage of helpful imagery in the public consciousness when it comes to bashing the fash:

[Hoagtech]

You guys should run this guys clothes business the way you adore this “puffy” man

You do realize this is essentially another version of the kindergarten-caliber "calling someone else racist is worse than actually being racist" canard; just replace "racist" with "plutocratic". Folks like yourself are the ones constantly and proudly bankrolling and empowering people like him in exchange for the "personal freedom" to treat other people like trash without anyone being able to so much as criticize you for it; the reason you see reminders of that so frequently is because you keep on doing it.

Of course. typical cucktard reply..

You pretty much defined liberals in the first sentence. How can you possibly be racist when you don't regularly hang out with black people and put a million virtue stamps all over your digital footprint and vehicles?

Not enough racism? We'll manufacture it for you and get those heartstrings doused in bloody empathy soo we can harvest your votes to get your spending habits wild and Keynesian.

And frankly I think you guys are the bullies sitting on the racist trigger ready to blow. You mentioned Rob's border control theory as a "way to limit brown people". I'm surprised you didn't double up and call him a Q.

Have you guys seen the "State of Emergency" your Democrat mayor of El Paso TX just declared?

The city of Jaurez which borders El Paso saw over 2.000 murders with El Paso only having 5 last year. Now 6 digit ILLEGAL crossings recently have Mexicans sleeping everywhere using up the whole towns emergency and Red Cross provisions. And Google is wiping images and references by the millions because Liberals need to stay brainwashed so Big Tech churns out the censors like typical lying, cheating monarchs that embody the soul of Democrats.

Try to find this FBI statement on google..



You guys would let Freddy Krueger in your house if his inside-out face was a shade darker.

And one more thing. Exemplifying a rich inheriter is not gonna turn out well for either party and is as singular non relative to opposing politics as it gets. I will counter that fat rich bastard by saying that 79% of All Millionaire+ people in America did not inherit their wealth and were born lower or lower-middle income.

Dave Ramsey Has been running a podcast for the last 30 years which is the third most listened to podcast in America and interviewed 100's of millionaires to gather a consensus. He noticed the key factor in Deca-millionaires was "extraordinary ethics".

Stupid notions of sharing rich peoples wealth and limiting the potential of a business model does NOT solve the root of the problem. The root of the problem is your lazy and not smart with finances.

If you want to be ethical about it then all the more reason to concentrate on reading, writing and arithmetic in school instead of a sliding grade scale passing lower knowledge kids through with their classmates when they haven't developed the life skillset they so need to combat this issue. But it "feels good", And were dumb as fuck, so lets vote it in!

[Mischief Maker]

The root of the problem is your lazy and not smart with finances.

[Air Master Burst]

Dave Ramsey Has been running a podcast for the last 30 years which is the third most listened to podcast in America and interviewed 100's of millionaires to gather a consensus. He noticed the key factor in Deca-millionaires was "extraordinary ethics".

Who needs to do any actual research when you can just ask them how ethical they are? And yet somehow I'm supposed to be the naive one here.

Eat the rich, they're probably well-marbled.

[Hoagtech]

Dave Ramsey Has been running a podcast for the last 30 years which is the third most listened to podcast in America and interviewed 100's of millionaires to gather a consensus. He noticed the key factor in Deca-millionaires was "extraordinary ethics".

Who needs to do any actual research when you can just ask them how ethical they are? And yet somehow I'm supposed to be the naive one here.

Eat the rich, they're probably well-marbled.

Or you know you could.. become one seeing as how we live in the land of milk and honey. There's a chessboard in front of us. Might as well play some goddamn chess..

You act like having money is the problem. It provides financial security, heath, Legacy or if your into giving it away, you could go all Kianu Reeves and donate it to your causes. But wealth and capitalism is (mostly) based on merit, academics, skillset, and knowledge of your environment.

Turning us all into into Wall-E people will not only burden our economy to the point of instability, but takes away from the people who devoted their time into bettering themselves and responsibly preparing for their future.

The lesser of us would just marginalize our efforts. I'm not saying all social services are a bad thing, but I do believe unless logically regulated they will be a wasted resource.

Now get off of Shmups and solve some of that PTSD and disability by creating yourself an enterprise.

YOU deserve it Air Master Burst, and I thank you for your service btw. That's a sacrifice I was not willing to make in my lifetime and coincidentally, My brother is an Iraq and Afghanistan veteran who also believes in Socialism and is terrible with his finances.

[BryanM]

When I ask you guys to dial it back from impossible communism to attainable socialism, her bullshit disingenuous claims of what it is "realistic" (and is not) get in the way.

Talking about endpoints is just a way to kill the massive amount of free time we have. It's an extremely narrow niche that expects full communism now. The dissolution of all governments is quite obviously a fantasy that would turn us back to the ~1910's immediately if enacted tomorrow. Monopoly money, child slavery, etc etc. I guess the tankies wouldn't mind that, granted.

The term "Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism" reflects the means and timescales most hope for. The idea that we'd maybe be allowed to live when they replace everyone's job with robots is indeed a ridiculous fantasy, but hey it's the only future where we get to continue to breathe oxygen yeah?

In the meantime, basic shit like healthcare is an easy consensus. One small step forward to utopia.

A beautiful world where, say, my mother didn't almost die from her intestines fucking dying just because she was scared about the hospital bill.

According to our fash friends here, she's just a stupid broad who didn't save the $400,000 like she should have.

I can't even ask anyone to take a step back from idealism, because she already redefined the word "realistic"; thanks to that asshole, we can't even have a conversation.

As Mischief said, literally anything that improves society somewhat will be gaslit and fought against by the ruling class as hard as possible.

Christ, remember when one of them tried to label Bernie Sanders antisemitic? Bernie Sanders. Jewish guy. Born in 1941. Uncles, aunts, cousins, grandparents, all fucking murdered by Nazis. This guy, antisemitic?

"BuT iT wOrKeD oN jErEmY COrbYn????"

It sure did. And that's why they throw everything at the wall, and then lean as hard as they can on anything that slightly works.





..... granted... Hillary Clinton saying we can't have healthcare because it wouldn't solve racism is particularly...... horrible....... ...... she's intentionally that horrible so you grow your own rage worms in your brain... makes it impossible to sound like a sane person when talking about her.....

..... I remember one of our shmups bros here mentioning they were shocked when she was praising Trump's missile strike on Syria.... and I was like, this should be shocking to no one since she spent the last two years calling for us to bomb the shit out of them....

.... I can't even blame him.... before 2015 I thought she was just a generic democrat.... because I never paid much attention to her, either..... and was shocked myself at how awful she was on policy and sales pitches on TV.... and that's how the vampires get you, from hiding in the shadows........ out of sight, out of mind....

...... 'please vote DeSantis, he's totally not the same person as Trump or Bush.... he's brand new, really guys....'

...... I'd put more money on Herman Cain winning the primary than this guy, and he's dead.....

[Air Master Burst]

YOU deserve it Air Master Burst, and I thank you for your service btw. That's a sacrifice I was not willing to make in my lifetime and coincidentally, My brother is an Iraq and Afghanistan veteran who also believes in Socialism and is terrible with his finances.

I love how you assume anyone who identifies as a socialist is bad with finances. I live quite comfortably and don't need to worry about retirement. I just also happen to have this thing called "empathy" for my fellow humans who aren't so lucky. You ought to try it out sometime.

[Mischief Maker]

[orange808]

In the meantime, basic shit like healthcare is an easy consensus. One small step forward to utopia.

A beautiful world where, say, my mother didn't almost die from her intestines fucking dying just because she was scared about the hospital bill.

According to our fash friends here, she's just a stupid broad who didn't save the $400,000 like she should have.

I'm not saying all trespassing laws should be repealed. But what I am saying is there should always be *somewhere* these homeless people can go where it is not illegal for them to simply exist.

Quoted because they're great quotes.

[Hoagtech]

YOU deserve it Air Master Burst, and I thank you for your service btw. That's a sacrifice I was not willing to make in my lifetime and coincidentally, My brother is an Iraq and Afghanistan veteran who also believes in Socialism and is terrible with his finances.

I love how you assume anyone who identifies as a socialist is bad with finances. I live quite comfortably and don't need to worry about retirement. I just also happen to have this thing called "empathy" for my fellow humans who aren't so lucky. You ought to try it out sometime.

Ahh yes the "Shame card". I forgot to mention that one when you were slicing me with those Gambit cards.

Thanks for reminding me "Michelle Obama". See in the real world we do things like serve in homeless shelters and host DIY business model workshops at our local Chamber of Commerce to help people. It's called the "physical realm" A concept hard to realize by the high horse leftists.

These "teach people how to fish" idealists are sure getting kicked in the nuts these days by these lifestyle havin' glory hogs..

In the meantime, basic shit like healthcare is an easy consensus. One small step forward to utopia.

A beautiful world where, say, my mother didn't almost die from her intestines fucking dying just because she was scared about the hospital bill.

According to our fash friends here, she's just a stupid broad who didn't save the $400,000 like she should have.

I left a clause in there for basic social services for this very reason. I wont relinquish personal info on my life growing up too much, but I do believe woman (especially those with children), should be provided for.

The problem with open ended health services is apparent in countries that... have free health services. The highest rate of medical death is in these countries because they cant sustain their policies with their economy.

And waving the magic FREE wand wont solve the same "feel good" policies like.. Open borders, Universal healthcare, Essential provisions, and in the case of of healthcare the hypochondriacs would dry up the resources overnight

[Rob]

I'm not saying all trespassing laws should be repealed. But what I am saying is there should always be *somewhere* these homeless people can go where it is not illegal for them to simply exist.

Are there no shelters in your city?

[Sengoku Strider]

NYT: In Testimony, Hannity and Other Fox Employees Said They Doubted Trump’s Fraud Claims



"You see I was lying all along, so it doesn't count as real defamation as the lying liberal media would have you believe."

[Air Master Burst]

And waving the magic FREE wand wont solve the same "feel good" policies like.. Open borders, Universal healthcare, Essential provisions, and in the case of of healthcare the hypochondriacs would dry up the resources overnight

Stop all the ridiculous military spending and tax the shit out of corporations and the top 1% and suddenly that stuff is easy to pay for.

Imagine a world where Musk spent all those billions to house some homeless people instead of flushing it away on Twitter.

Now imagine a world where he never even had the option because we used it all on that stuff instead of him.

[Hoagtech]

And waving the magic FREE wand wont solve the same "feel good" policies like.. Open borders, Universal healthcare, Essential provisions, and in the case of of healthcare the hypochondriacs would dry up the resources overnight

Stop all the ridiculous military spending and tax the shit out of corporations and the top 1% and suddenly that stuff is easy to pay for.

Imagine a world where Musk spent all those billions to house some homeless people instead of flushing it away on Twitter.

Now imagine a world where he never even had the option because we used it all on that stuff instead of him.

That falls under “feel good”. Not only would that affect the 40% of taxes these corporations pay in America, but it would also take away any jobs offered by these Corporo’s and income taxes associated. We would be in an “apocalyptic” economic downturn and these corporations would pick up their briefcases and exploit the third world exponentially.

That would only add to the slave trade unfortunately.

When your a business and you have the choice to make more money or less. You can guess the outcome and say goodbye to the idea of doing business in USA in the first place.

Foxconn was a great example. We were opening it up with a tax break incentive to produce microchips in the US.

The states governor flipped to blue and demanded full taxation.

The job site is under 4% employee and almost fully deserted and instead they exploit Mexico and China because they have no reason not to.

And what happened shortly after….? A HUGE chip shortage. But let’s blame it on the harbor

[Mischief Maker]

Oh, Air Master Burst, you just aren't being realistic.

Society benefits from Elon Musk having those billions because he's REAL LIFE TONY STARK!!!!

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

* * *

Hoagtech, sit on my knee, son, and let me tell you about something called "stock buybacks."

[Sima Tuna]

I'm not saying all trespassing laws should be repealed. But what I am saying is there should always be *somewhere* these homeless people can go where it is not illegal for them to simply exist.

Are there no shelters in your city?

Are you deliberately trying to quote Ebenezer Scrooge right before Christmas time?

The few shelters we have are filled to beyond capacity almost instantly, after which point there cease to be any shelters, ya dig? If all the shelters are full, what happens to the rest of the homeless horde who can't get into a shelter? I drove past some fifty of them today on my way home from the grocery store. Vast tent cities stretch across our streets. BTW it's supposed to be 20 degrees tonight with 30+mph wind gusts. We're also due for an ice storm in a few days. These poor sods are stuck in fucking tents. It's a disgrace.

I don't think you understand how big this problem is and how long it's been building. A few shelters run by churches or non-profits or whatever the fuck aren't even a drop in the ocean of need.