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emulation of saturn & ps1

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yeah, ive tried a few emulators for these today, was playing Mr Driller G straight from the PS1 disc on my laptop-pretty cool

also, tried SSF (a Saturn emulator) - this needs Direct X to run, but it runs pretty good -

Darius Gaiden runs 95% perfect - perfectly playable!
Radiant Silvergun was running but a bit slow on my machine 2.4Gig P4
Kyukyoku Tiger II Plus doesn't work
Keio Yugekitai 2 works, 85% perfect

just thought id share this, looking forward to the day Saturn is perfectly emulated, then i can sell off all my real stuff and go on a biiiiiig holiday :D
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The problem with emulation is that it will always make you go back to the real thing.
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NO, emulation , when perfect in software and running on good equipment is a substitute to the real thing IMO, one day everyone will have to play emulated versions of the vintage games, as none of the machines will work anymore :lol:
so far, MD and Famicom and SFC emulation i would say is nigh on 100% there. MD probably looks and sounds better on my computer set up thru emu than it does on a tv from the actual hardware. SNES doesnt look quite as good thru emu for some reason, at least not yet, i may not have hit the right buttons yet tho :roll:
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I foresee this turning ugly...
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bring it on.. :wink:
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BulletMagnet wrote:I foresee this turning ugly...
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DC906270 wrote: MD probably sounds better on my computer set up thru emu than it does on a tv from the actual hardware.
O_o Go listen to Streets of Rage 2's(any MD game actually) soundtrack and then play its ROM on an emulator. There are definitely differences and the actual copy is superior in sound.
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Yeah, even Super Nintendo isn't properly emulated after all these years.
Sure it's damn close but I got sick and tired of playing emulators, so I got a GameDoctor which allows for use of the best emulator around, the system itself. Heck, even most of the roms I play on that unit I'd want to own in real life but don't really feel compelled to shell out the big bucks, Earthbound and Dracula X come to mind.

With SS, I never had much choice but to buy all my games since I didn't feel like modding my only system. Lame excuse since I could've saved lots of money but I wouldn't have the same satisfaction of owning them.
For the most part, I'm really satisfied with all my domestic and import Saturn games since I know I own the real thing.

Playstation on the other hand I got modified to initially play imports so even with backup capability I still opted to buy the original press. Granted, I did 'obtain' many backups, but the games I play/enjoy the most get bought. Since some imports are expensive and not rented locally, try before you buy is a tough issue not to mention these aren't new games.

PS2, again, got enhanced to play original imports and like it's predecessor, any backups acquired and are enjoyable get the call otherwise I probably won't play them again. Another idea with PS2 is if I couldn't download to sample a game, I'd buy it, which I've done a few times already, no harm in that. If I 'want' a game and cannot obtain it by certain measures then I have no choice but to buy it.

Ah, Dreamcast. Now here's a funny one. I initially got Dreamcast for Ikaruga and at the time I had a backup of it. Yes, I can say I got this system due to it's grave exploits. But it all comes back to playablity. I now own Ikaruga and a couple other games, but Dreamcast like Saturn are hard to come by around here.

In the end, I've downloaded games and bought several games. Some I was forced to buy and some forced to other measures, but I can say I'm most satisfied/content with the original games. I also get a much greater level of respect for said games additionally.
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Post by Ganelon »

No MD emulator has the sounds right, or perfect compatibility for that matter. Just try The Earth Defend by itself and see how far you get.

Many SNES translation patches involve emulator misrepresentations to display text and do not play correctly on a real SNES system.

So it's a ways yet from perfect.
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Post by Damocles »

Perfect? No. Enjoyable? Yes.

We're talking emulators here, people. Perfection is the goal, but not a true reality. However, in most cases emulators do the job perfectly fine. Hell, I don't even own a PS1, and use Epsxe (and VGS before that) to emulate all my games. Saturn? Well, that's another story. Saturn emulation has, even now, serious issues. However, everything up to the PS1 and N64 is mostly workable on the user front. Yahyah, emulation isn't perfect, and a few games here and there don't work.
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Post by umi »

I've never emulated... once. The idea just doesn't appeal to me. Unless I ever decide to get into pcb's (clueless atm), there are some games I will just never get to play... but there's tons of console games I am still yet to play, and with all the shooters being released on console, well... it's no biggie :P (I WANT to play ketsui someday though...).
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DC906270 wrote:one day everyone will have to play emulated versions of the vintage games, as none of the machines will work anymore
Luckily for those that want the real thing, there are those of us who can fix them or have electrical engineer friends who can troubleshoot them. 90% of all Atari units from 30 years ago are still up and running fine with little sign of progressive breakdown. The Masked ROMs (real ROMs, not the term meaning a ROM image) should hold up until the silicone breaks down - well past my expected lifetime. The biggest problem with vintage games and consoles is the electrolytic caps drying out - and those can be replaced cheaply.

More modern CD based systems have slightly more issues with the spindle motor and laser assembly but I've got a small stockpile of replacement parts for the PSX and Saturn so I'm not worried.

Rest assured, vintage gaming on real consoles is in no danger of going away anytime soon.
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@DC906270,

Would you tell me the name of that PS1 emulator? I have a small stack of PSOne games lying around and I don`t wanna play them since my TV is a eye-killer and my PC screen is much better tateable.

Oh, and that`s a nice question by the way; since more and more CD-ROM/DVD-ROM based consoles get emulated, what do you think of emulation when you don`t own the console but the game itself? I don`t mean "I own the SMB3 cartridge so I allow myself to dl the rom" but putting your bought game into the disc drive and emulate it on your PC.

I would happily spend the money on Ibara or Mushi or ESPGaluda if I wouldn`t have to buy a japanese PS2 AND a new TV set. This way, Cave gets money, but Sony doesn`t. :o
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Frederick, the emulator is rather unimaginatively called PSX v1.5

you need Direct X and the Playstation bios files to run it
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Post by GaijinPunch »

Better for some systems. Once Magic Engine goes back to supporting custom resolutions, you can enjoy your PC-Engine games in RGB w/ a serious mod to your hardware.

And you guys that hate emulation so much... why bother picking up retro collections like Taito Memories? They are indeed emulation.
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GaijinPunch wrote: And you guys that hate emulation so much... why bother picking up retro collections like Taito Memories? They are indeed emulation.
Yeah, someone mentioned the games on the PC version of TM are drag-and-drop MAME roms with proper names and anything. But then again, those people should get the real releases of those games anyway.
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