DDP on Very Hard

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:16 pm

ResOGlas wrote:If you don't like me here you might as well just ignore me. I'm here to stay.

Unless you get banned. Which will hopefully happen soon.

ResOGlas · Post by **ResOGlas** » Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:39 pm

twe wrote:
ResOGlas wrote:If you don't like me here you might as well just ignore me. I'm here to stay.

Unless you get banned. Which will hopefully happen soon.

I've actually read the forum rules, have you?

So I guess I derailed a thread. That wasn't my intention and I'll make my efforts to not to it again. I don't even know you, why would you just make this kind of remark?

GunSpike · Post by **GunSpike** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 8:16 am

What, you guys don't play on very hard AND you cry a lot? I know this thread is old as hell and I don't expect anybody to respond, but geez. Man up people and play on Hard/Very Hard (whatever the hardest is).

Arznei · Post by **Arznei** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 8:32 am

What, you guys don't play on very hard AND you cry a lot? I know this thread is old as hell and I don't expect anybody to respond, but geez. Man up people and play on Hard/Very Hard (whatever the hardest is).

Fun, motherfucker, do you have it?

All the children are meant to comprehend the default settings of shooting games at the arcade? Yeah, easier said then done. Playing on the highest difficulty and submitting your score on the internet may raise your e-penis, but I don't know how can anyone enjoy a game like that.

It's like playing Mushi on Ultra. It's not fun.

chtimi-CLA · Post by **chtimi-CLA** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 8:43 am

put up (post a score) or shut up

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 8:48 am

GunSpike wrote:What, you guys don't play on very hard AND you cry a lot? I know this thread is old as hell and I don't expect anybody to respond, but geez. Man up people and play on Hard/Very Hard (whatever the hardest is).

how's that carpel tunnel going mr. "I tap manually"

Plasmo · Post by **Plasmo** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 9:30 am

@Arznei
you sound like a mainstream gamer and his GTA games taklking about shmups: "omg they are impossibly hard you cant play shmups for fun."
shut up and post scores
btw to each his own

Dandy J · Post by **Dandy J** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 9:40 am

GunSpike wrote:What, you guys don't play on very hard AND you cry a lot? I know this thread is old as hell and I don't expect anybody to respond, but geez. Man up people and play on Hard/Very Hard (whatever the hardest is).

It's not the standard.

Middlemoor · Post by **Middlemoor** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 10:55 am

Derailed? I thought he started the thread...

Arznei · Post by **Arznei** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 11:02 am

Plasmo wrote:@Arznei
you sound like a mainstream gamer and his GTA games taklking about shmups: "omg they are impossibly hard you cant play shmups for fun."
shut up and post scores
btw to each his own

If that was true, I wouldn't be here. I liked Vice City but GTA is only targetted at as "mainstream" due to the commercialization and fuss over the violence brought upon in the game. God forbid Rockstar make a game people WON'T complain about.

Some shooting games, yes, are very hard. Nothing is impossible nor have I said so, but there's some sort of breaking limit between fun and frustrating. Take Mushihime for example - Original, Arrange and Maniac is fun, but Ultra isn't. Ultra is ridiculous and not fun in any humanly way possible. When you're on the edge of your seat during the entire experience, scared, worried about dying, and all that shit, you're clearly not having fun.

And if I was a mainstream gamer, and if I did claim they were impossibly hard, why would I shut up and post scores? gb2/makingsense

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 11:07 am

Arznei wrote:Take Mushihime for example - Original, Arrange and Maniac is fun, but Ultra isn't. Ultra is ridiculous and not fun in any humanly way possible. When you're on the edge of your seat during the entire experience, scared, worried about dying, and all that shit, you're clearly not having fun.

The Ultra mode player on the Mushi superplay DVD (TGA-RET) said that he picked Ultra mode because he liked to dodge bullets, and when he saw Ultra it made him excited to see all the bullets, and he thought it would be a lot of fun. Many others find it fun as well. Perhaps you get 'scared' of and 'worried' about so many bullets as you say, but some of us simply get a rush from dodging bullet swarms like in Ultra mode.

Plasmo · Post by **Plasmo** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 11:09 am

@Arznei
IMO Ultra is the best mode in mushihime and i enjoy it a lot.i have lots of fun too! and Maniac for example looks rather boring to me.

Post by **Dave_K.** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 3:05 pm

GunSpike wrote:What, you guys don't play on very hard AND you cry a lot? I know this thread is old as hell and I don't expect anybody to respond, but geez. Man up people and play on Hard/Very Hard (whatever the hardest is).

Would you keep this stupid talk on Neo-Geo please? Geez. Resoglas mellowed out since this thread, and respects shmups now for the difficulty they posess, without trying to convince people how large his penis is.

Arznei · Post by **Arznei** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 4:48 pm

Plasmo wrote:@Arznei
IMO Ultra is the best mode in mushihime and i enjoy it a lot.i have lots of fun too! and Maniac for example looks rather boring to me.

Well you probably don't get the THRILLING EXPERINECE of Mushihime in composite like I do..

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 5:39 pm

Dave_K. wrote:
GunSpike wrote:What, you guys don't play on very hard AND you cry a lot? I know this thread is old as hell and I don't expect anybody to respond, but geez. Man up people and play on Hard/Very Hard (whatever the hardest is).
Would you keep this stupid talk on Neo-Geo please? Geez. Resoglas mellowed out since this thread, and respects shmups now for the difficulty they posess, without trying to convince people how large his penis is.

Thread necromancy.

LUNardei · Post by **LUNardei** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 6:04 pm

Play ULTRA is like drink a COLD mojito

cigsthecat · Post by **cigsthecat** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 6:17 pm

Don't fall for this twice.

Also, some people are confusing jokes with lying. </Mirman>

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 7:02 pm

If you're not playing Space Megaforce on ultra hard you aren't playing Space Megaforce.

ArrogantBastard · Post by **ArrogantBastard** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 7:07 pm

Oh God, someone kill this thread with fire!

Post by **Icarus** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 10:58 pm

tekneekz · Post by **tekneekz** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 11:08 pm

arznei quote: When you're on the edge of your seat during the entire experience, scared, worried about dying, and all that ****

thats how i like to play my shmups and have fun

GunSpike · Post by **GunSpike** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 7:21 am

Yep, guess the internet is working. C'mon guys, lighten up. I do like playing my shmups on the hardest difficulty (as I do a lot of my games). I just enjoy playing hard games. For the two of you that didn't flame me, kudos to you and enjoy your games. Everyone else, just chill out and don't take this too seriously. I don't really want any bad blood. Just a bit o' fun!

Valgar · Post by **Valgar** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 1:17 pm

Why play on the hardest difficulty when you can't even beat Hibachi on the normal difficulty? Lame.

umi · Post by **umi** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 1:36 pm

I play on hardest difficulty too. Yes, it's just more fun :P As an added bonus, it takes away the boredom/slowness of the early levels too. Mainly, I hate playing any game knowing it's holding back on me (guess I'm a sucker for punishment). The rush and the rewards are great, though. And you get to witness the full shot patterns in their beautiful, uncompromised glory :P

Re: the topic title, overall ddp is actually quite playable on hard... no one should find it too unenjoyable, really. Newer games get a bit crazier, but ddp isn't too bad I think.

D · Post by D » Sat Jun 10, 2006 2:04 pm

umi wrote:on hardest difficulty, it takes away the boredom/slowness of the early levels.

That sums up the entire thread, and I agree on that alone.
Wow, I'm posting in a thread that's about to be locked. I feel like I'm sneaking into the movies theatre

fl0w · Post by **fl0w** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 2:48 pm

Interesting thread, which reminds me of some other threads like "is there a good/wrong way to play shmups?"

Hiscore boards are here because we like competition. Like it or not, the rules are: play on default.

What ResOGlas did was trying to break those rules. We should thank him for this! At least, he's made some people here try to play DDP on hard, I wouldn't call this bad. So he's taunted us (maybe a bit too much and clumsily, but he apologized). And guess what, people reacted! Had he posted his score on very hard, who would have noticed? Moreover, in the most recents posts, some of us say they're happy to play games on hard in general. It's a matter of taste.

ResOGlas, as you can see, your score can easily be beaten. Now open a real score board for DDP on hard, post your score, post the other scores and try to improve! If necessary, ask question, don't be arrogant, and people will help you.

Thanks to the moderators for not locking this thread too soon because it was a bit hot

LUNardei · Post by **LUNardei** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 3:11 pm

Valgar wrote:Why play on the hardest difficulty when you can't even beat Hibachi on the normal difficulty? Lame.

Word. This sums up of the thread, in my opinion.

Eps · Post by **Eps** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 3:52 pm

umi wrote:Mainly, I hate playing any game knowing it's holding back on me (guess I'm a sucker for punishment).

I think this is the bit a lot of people miss: Arcade games are designed with the knowledge that they will usually be installed and left on defaults. Therefore, they are designed with the 'Default' difficulty setting in mind. It's not like they start with Very Hard, then remove stuff for Default. In most games, it's more like they design the game around default, take it down a notch for Easy, and just stick some extra things in for Hard. But it should be fairly obvious that most of the thought in game design generally goes into the default difficulty level. Default, to my mind, is the real game. Anything higher is just a tacked-on bonus.

Middlemoor · Post by **Middlemoor** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 3:56 pm

Exactly.

umi · Post by **umi** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 4:10 pm

Eps wrote:I think this is the bit a lot of people miss: Arcade games are designed with the knowledge that they will usually be installed and left on defaults. Therefore, they are designed with the 'Default' difficulty setting in mind. It's not like they start with Very Hard, then remove stuff for Default. In most games, it's more like they design the game around default, take it down a notch for Easy, and just stick some extra things in for Hard. But it should be fairly obvious that most of the thought in game design generally goes into the default difficulty level. Default, to my mind, is the real game. Anything higher is just a tacked-on bonus.

Difficult is just a progression on medium, as medium is on easy... it's still essentially the same game (obviously). An arcade owner's prime concern is of course a balance between the time the player spends playing on an average credit, and motivation he/she has to continue spending money on credits. Luckily, this doesn't apply at home! :P Having said that, I have a few memories of arcade machines set way high up on the difficulty scale... heh. Sometimes they'd tack more lives on to make up for it. Whatever, I just wish they'd put the Raiden Fighters machine back at the local arcade, I don't care how hard it is... closest thing to a real game they have there is Metal Slug 3 :( If I ever want a deer-shooting sim though, I know where to go though.

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