How to learn Radiant Silvergun?

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Re: How to learn Radiant Silvergun?

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farewell wrote: so, credit feeding rsg... yea or nay?
I'd say nay, not useful for progression.

Seeing you are a musician, rsg really is like a music sheet that has to be executed perfectly, and yes this does take forever. Good thing with it though is that everyone can invent his own route through the game, trying to achieve his own goal. Good luck with yours !
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Re: How to learn Radiant Silvergun?

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guigui wrote: I'd say nay, not useful for progression.

Seeing you are a musician, rsg really is like a music sheet that has to be executed perfectly, and yes this does take forever. Good thing with it though is that everyone can invent his own route through the game, trying to achieve his own goal. Good luck with yours !
right! this is what's getting to be satisfying about it, it really does feel almost like choreography. i also really appreciate that it's a shmup that actually makes you think so much about when you use your shot - even ignoring the large weapons list. other games do this just as a vehicle for score, but if you don't chain here, you stay weak.

i'm still on the lookout for other playthrough videos that might be more helpful... as i think i said before the superplays are great but the sheer amount of secret combos and general weirdness of an expert playthrough actually kind of muddies the waters for me. are there good videos of more normal skill level people completing the game? people like me who are just kinda chaining red and every now and then hitting some secrets?
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Re: How to learn Radiant Silvergun?

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I really do not think you need videos at that level. Just play the game and learn from your mistakes.

Radical concept, right? :lol:
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Re: How to learn Radiant Silvergun?

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i'm still on the lookout for other playthrough videos that might be more helpful... as i think i said before the superplays are great but the sheer amount of secret combos and general weirdness of an expert playthrough actually kind of muddies the waters for me.
Anyone know if the XBLA leaderboards are still up? I seem to remember there were replays on there. Online leaderboards with replays can be really nice bc you may be able to find a replay just above your level or a low scoring clear. There you might see easy safe boss strategies or see how little chaining they get away with.

Figuring stuff on your own is great too, but I don't see any shame watching lower level replays. Closest thing we have now to an actual arcade environment where you might get to observe different levels of play in person.

Maybe check twitch as well and see if you can dig up anyone streaming RS.
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Yeah the leaderboards should still be functional. That’s actually a great tip if you need that sort of thing. I remember using that feature a bunch in the earlier days of XBLA with games like Omega V.
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Re: How to learn Radiant Silvergun?

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farewell wrote: i'm still on the lookout for other playthrough videos that might be more helpful... as i think i said before the superplays are great but the sheer amount of secret combos and general weirdness of an expert playthrough actually kind of muddies the waters for me. are there good videos of more normal skill level people completing the game? people like me who are just kinda chaining red and every now and then hitting some secrets?
This is my own clear, it is fairly low-scoring and doesn't really have that much chaining going on, so kinda fits your description, not sure how helpful will that be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p21uXwZjWXQ
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Re: How to learn Radiant Silvergun?

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Sometimes it's nice to take a break and credit feed a little bit. Set a limit of 2 or 3 credits.

Not a bad thing to mix into a session if things are getting a bit stale. But I wouldn't credit feed to get more than 1 or 2 levels ahead of where you can get to on 1 credit.

Superplays can be intimidating and even a bit depressing when you are up against it!!! Sometimes they show a great deal of milking for points and if you are playing for survival you would rather see a quick boss kill or a low scoring less risky route - so sometimes they might not be useful. I wish there were more playthroughs around from mortals instead of deathless bombless 2 loop works of genius!

Using playthroughs if you really get stuck at a certain section can help though.
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Re: How to learn Radiant Silvergun?

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Oh god, this thread made me launch the game again, after almost 10 years ... only to recall how painfully slow that ship is !
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Re: How to learn Radiant Silvergun?

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There's enough survival clears out there to pick and choose some decent routes, like PJA's up above.

hell, markmsx has a clear uploaded to his channel using a (frankly, imo) bad route I would never consider using! But hell he gets the clear with it so more power to him. The superplays are a little dull to me, not so much for the chaining but the unpleasant boss milking this game has. I respect them but I don't think I'd ever go past a simple 100% boss kill.

guigui is right in that the slow pace of the game makes it very methodical with it being necessary to plan out in advance.
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Re: How to learn Radiant Silvergun?

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For those with an Action Replay or Pseudo Saturn Kai cart (or Rhea/Phoebe/Fenrir/Satiator ODE that can run PSK directly), these cheat codes provide a way to practice Radiant Silvergun on Saturn (vanilla and Extra) with custom weapon levels :
https://segaxtreme.net/threads/radiant- ... ion.25462/

Making these cheat codes required me to determine the exact point requirements for weapon levels in Arcade and Saturn modes which, unless I'm mistaken, haven't been documented before.
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