So does anyone have the ps2 version of radilgy yet?

tekneekz · Post by **tekneekz** » Sat May 27, 2006 12:45 am

hello, ive missed out on the dreamcast version for some reason but now that i see its out on the ps2, im wondering how it compares to the dreamcast version, thanks for any feedback.

Arznei · Post by **Arznei** » Sat May 27, 2006 1:03 am

I have it.

And.

NO.

Do NOT buy it.

It's slow, it feels like garbage, there isn't anything new, and you're better off getting the DC version. I can't comment on the GC version but the DC version is probably the better one of the lot.

tekneekz · Post by **tekneekz** » Sat May 27, 2006 1:06 am

well i dont care if it doesnt have any new content but how slow is it compared to the dreamcast version how garbage does it feel compared to the dc version

Arznei · Post by **Arznei** » Sat May 27, 2006 1:12 am

Hmm.. okay, put it like this. You know Imperishable Night? Well, when you're in slow mode in that game, that's what Radilgy for the PS2 feels like. Except all the bullets are juddery as well, and it basically feels like you're in matrix bullet-time whenever there's a large amount of bullets on the screen.

Trust me, do not buy it.

tekneekz · Post by **tekneekz** » Sat May 27, 2006 1:41 am

ok i guess ill take your word for it i guess, i never played imperishable night

Post by **system11** » Sat May 27, 2006 2:06 am

Imperishable Night is absolutely awesome, you should play it.

From what Arznei and one or two others have said, I've just ordered the DC version instead (would have been interested to know what the GC managed). Also added a copy of 'The Zombie vs Ambulance' to the shopping cart. Anything with a name like that has to be good.

ArrogantBastard · Post by **ArrogantBastard** » Sat May 27, 2006 2:15 am

Yes, yes, yes... Imperishable Night is awesome. It's what I've been playing for the last couple of months and nothing else.

bloodflowers, why don't you ever post your score in the Imperishable Night high scores thread?

Arznei · Post by **Arznei** » Sat May 27, 2006 2:26 am

bloodflowers wrote:Imperishable Night is absolutely awesome, you should play it.

From what Arznei and one or two others have said, I've just ordered the DC version instead (would have been interested to know what the GC managed). Also added a copy of 'The Zombie vs Ambulance' to the shopping cart. Anything with a name like that has to be good.

HAHAHA. That game is NUTS man. The gist of it is, you drive an ambulanc and run over zombies, and save civilians which need to be taken back to the hospital. The more people you save, the more upgrades you can add on to your ambulance, such as wheels with spikes on the sides and such (FOR ULTIMATE ZOMBIE SLAUGHTERING ACTION) which is pretty weird.

It's a good game, but I don't think it lasts very long.

And yeah, really not sure of the GC version. Radilgy on the PS2 was slow as hell though. Not that I'm a fan of the game entirely, but it feels so much better on the DC.

Post by **system11** » Sat May 27, 2006 2:27 am

ArrogantBastard wrote:bloodflowers, why don't you ever post your score in the Imperishable Night high scores thread?

Because it's not very good.

ArrogantBastard · Post by **ArrogantBastard** » Sat May 27, 2006 2:28 am

Neither is mine.

Okay, I'm going to stop derailing the topic.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Sat May 27, 2006 3:34 am

bloodflowers wrote:Because it's not very good.

Not another word from you, mister! You get right on over to that topic and submit what you have right now!

Don't make me rap duel you, young man!

iatneH · Post by **iatneH** » Sat May 27, 2006 5:13 am

Arznei wrote:
bloodflowers wrote:Also added a copy of 'The Zombie vs Ambulance' to the shopping cart. Anything with a name like that has to be good.
HAHAHA. That game is NUTS man. The gist of it is, you drive an ambulanc and run over zombies, and save civilians which need to be taken back to the hospital. The more people you save, the more upgrades you can add on to your ambulance, such as wheels with spikes on the sides and such (FOR ULTIMATE ZOMBIE SLAUGHTERING ACTION) which is pretty weird.

It's a good game, but I don't think it lasts very long.

That does indeed sound mad... I might have to add it to my next yesasia order. But what's the perspective like? I have some reserves about 3D gameplay... recently I was playing "The Helicopter" and although I was fine through almost the entire game, I went searching for the last mission, and just that made me feel pretty ill...

SAM · Post by **SAM** » Sat May 27, 2006 5:45 am

iatneH wrote:But what's the perspective like? I have some reserves about 3D gameplay... recently I was playing "The Helicopter" and although I was fine through almost the entire game, I went searching for the last mission, and just that made me feel pretty ill...

It complete 2D graphic with 2D gameplay.

With graphic like Paper Mario, i.e. cute.

You should get the DC version instead, it support VGA mode, and the original acrade version is a Naomi game.

Danny · Post by **Danny** » Sat May 27, 2006 6:03 am

bloodflowers wrote:
ArrogantBastard wrote:bloodflowers, why don't you ever post your score in the Imperishable Night high scores thread?
Because it's not very good.

Not as bad as mine... you garantied second to last position at least!

Post by **Ghegs** » Sat May 27, 2006 8:25 am

SAM wrote:
iatneH wrote:But what's the perspective like? I have some reserves about 3D gameplay... recently I was playing "The Helicopter" and although I was fine through almost the entire game, I went searching for the last mission, and just that made me feel pretty ill...
It complete 2D graphic with 2D gameplay. With graphic like Paper Mario, i.e. cute.

You should get the DC version instead, it support VGA mode, and the original acrade version is a Naomi game.

He's asking about Zombie vs. Ambulance, which is definately not cute or 2D.

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Sat May 27, 2006 8:59 am

Arznei wrote:I have it.

And.

NO.

Do NOT buy it.

It's slow, it feels like garbage, there isn't anything new, and you're better off getting the DC version. I can't comment on the GC version but the DC version is probably the better one of the lot.

Well, as you stated yourself in another thread you're playing a burned/pirated copy, and these are known to sometimes exhibit problems such as those you describe. I'll wait for impressions from someone who actually has a legit copy, as I doubt it will be as bad as you claim.

Oh, and there are a couple new things in the PS2 (and GC) port(s), like the score attack/practice mode, and the okawari mode.

Arznei · Post by **Arznei** » Sat May 27, 2006 9:10 am

twe wrote: Well, as you stated yourself in another thread you're playing a burned/pirated copy, and these are known to sometimes exhibit problems such as those you describe. I'll wait for impressions from someone who actually has a legit copy, as I doubt it will be as bad as you claim.

Oh, and there are a couple new things in the PS2 (and GC) port(s), like the score attack/practice mode, and the okawari mode.

Uh, well, it is as bad as I claim. It doesn't matter if it's burned or not. Don't bother taking my word for it, you jackass, my soul purpose on the internet is just to make shit up and trick others. What is a community for, after all?

I'm not the only one to comment on the slowness. You can go ahead and purchase the PS2 version if you like, but don't say I didn't warn you.

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Sat May 27, 2006 9:29 am

Arznei wrote: Uh, well, it is as bad as I claim. It doesn't matter if it's burned or not. Don't bother taking my word for it, you jackass, my soul purpose on the internet is just to make shit up and trick others. What is a community for, after all?

"you jackass"? yay, we have another cuckoo noob!

Arznei wrote:I'm not the only one to comment on the slowness

Really? Could you give us a link from someone with an official copy who has said this? If so, that's great. If not, then I don't care. You don't seem to realise burned copies can exhibit problems not in the legit games. That's all I was saying (this is pretty common knowledge after all).

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Sat May 27, 2006 9:39 am

http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.ph ... 390#145390

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Sat May 27, 2006 9:41 am

Twiddle wrote:http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.ph ... 390#145390

Thanks for that. Hopefully Dave_K has an official copy, and is not just commenting on a burned disc version.

Arznei · Post by **Arznei** » Sat May 27, 2006 9:44 am

http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.ph ... 390#145390

Exactly.

Also, since when is there slowdown in 2D OR 3D PS2 titles, burned or otherwise? I haven't come across one thus far. So unless you're just being anal about having someone else confirm that the PS2 version sucks, I suggest you shut the fuck up already.

In fact, burning 2D games is almost 100% exactly like owning a legit 2D game. Much like SNES roms are very close to the real cartridges. The only problems with burned PS2 titles is sometimes the video is grainy/messed up. Not gameplay.

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Sat May 27, 2006 9:57 am

Arznei wrote:I suggest you shut the fuck up already

I'm finding your extreme hostility rather peculiar (also rather peculiar that you defend pirated PS2 discs like someone defends their best friend). Having a bad day?

Arznei wrote:
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.ph ... 390#145390
The only problems with burned PS2 titles is sometimes the video is grainy/messed up. Not gameplay.

Not true. A few examples: many people reported bugs with Homura which were not in the official version, and Ikaruga burns have been reported to have choppy framerates and other glitches.

Arznei · Post by **Arznei** » Sat May 27, 2006 10:23 am

twe wrote:
Arznei wrote:I suggest you shut the fuck up already
I'm finding your extreme hostility rather peculiar (also rather peculiar that you defend pirated PS2 discs like someone defends their best friend). Having a bad day?

Arznei wrote:
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.ph ... 390#145390
The only problems with burned PS2 titles is sometimes the video is grainy/messed up. Not gameplay.
Not true. A few examples: many people reported bugs with Homura which were not in the official version, and Ikaruga burns have been reported to have choppy framerates and other glitches.

Um, Ikaruga isn't on the PS2, and PS2 games are made differently, so how can you compare it to DC games?

Post by **system11** » Sat May 27, 2006 11:16 am

Arznei wrote:So unless you're just being anal about having someone else confirm that the PS2 version sucks, I suggest you shut the fuck up already.

I suggest you refer to the forum rules and tone it down.

Arznei wrote:In fact, burning 2D games is almost 100% exactly like owning a legit 2D game.

Apart from the whole 'being illegal' thing?

Arznei · Post by **Arznei** » Sat May 27, 2006 12:03 pm

No, he offended me, and I serve no right to tone anything down. When I fronted him on it, all I recieved was a pro-gamer-snob comment: "say, we have another cuckoo noob!"

You cannot seriously disregard one's opinion just because they're playing a burned copy of the game. That's like saying you can't wear fake Nike shoes because there could be something wrong with them. They're still shoes, and they still do their job, they just aren't as reliable as the original ones. Well, the same here would apply for games which are burned, and so on.

Come to think of it, I did waste more than a single disc because I thought the slowness was a problem with the burning process. They both ended up doing the same, one on a Taiyo Yuden and another on Verbatim - two GREAT quality DVD discs.

The PS2 version is really bad. I can't put it any plainer then that. I see almost no reason to purchase it considering it's on the GC as well as the DC. But if you want to waste your money, that's fine.

freddiebamboo · Post by **freddiebamboo** » Sat May 27, 2006 1:18 pm

Arznei wrote: Also, since when is there slowdown in 2D OR 3D PS2 titles, burned or otherwise? I haven't come across one thus far. So unless you're just being anal about having someone else confirm that the PS2 version sucks, I suggest you shut the fuck up already.

The winning eleven/pro evo pirate discs floating about last year were very slow compared to the official release.

I think there was issues with dodgy burnout 3 discs as well. The ps2 does have problems with pirate games, it was a fair comment to suggest a burned copy could be causing the slowdown.

junkeR · Post by **junkeR** » Sat May 27, 2006 1:49 pm

Arznei wrote:No, he offended me, and I serve no right to tone anything down. When I fronted him on it, all I recieved was a pro-gamer-snob comment: "say, we have another cuckoo noob!"

I just love how everyone assumes it's a guy they're dealing with on video game message boards

But yes... I am a male.

icycalm · Post by **icycalm** » Sat May 27, 2006 2:48 pm

For the record, twe has given me the impression of being an elitist prick before, and here he just reinforces it. It would also appear he has something against forum newcomers.

edit: on topic, does the PS2 version support progressive scan?

Neon · Post by **Neon** » Sat May 27, 2006 4:14 pm

No, he offended me, and I serve no right to tone anything down. When I fronted him on it, all I recieved was a pro-gamer-snob comment: "say, we have another cuckoo noob!"

You cannot seriously disregard one's opinion just because they're playing a burned copy of the game. That's like saying you can't wear fake Nike shoes because there could be something wrong with them. They're still shoes, and they still do their job, they just aren't as reliable as the original ones. Well, the same here would apply for games which are burned, and so on.

Ever notice how people who play burnz are always immature assholes like this?

As he pointed out, there is a difference between burned and official copies in terms of bugs on some occasions, even on ps2. So there's just a slight possibility that you could actually be wrong about something!

This thread is done, really, first poster should have checked the original raji thread before posting this and it can only go down from here.