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Or, "Lose all hope all who pass through me".

http://news.com.com/2100-1028_3-6064016 ... &subj=news


If they have it their way, basically Sony could install another rootkit on your computer, and due to their copyright, it would be illegal for you to remove it.

I wish there was a way to voice opposition. I'm fed up with the RIAA and the MPAA f***ing people like this.
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Wait for Joe Sixpack and all his friends to get sued/jailed/etc - then finally something will be done about it. People are like sheep, and tremendously short sighted. Things like this have to actually bite them hard before they notice and start to make some noise.
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Uhoh, we better brush up on those Geldra salutes in case this Castro-wannabe junk passes. The wiretapping thing is so Big Brother. Are we going to have to tell the President when we take a shit? I would be more afraid of someone watching my every move than of me being waxed by some terrorist. All this fearmongering that the GOP uses is deplorable. George Orwell is likely looking down from heaven saying "I was right, comrades".

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Gonzales says that the illicit businesses "fund terrorism". More bull. I don't approve of those who sell bootleg CDs, but boy is he grasping at straws.

Gonzales and Bush = our Jingjing and Chacha. What next, will the Busheviks change the 10-year penalty to death by a firing squad when they feel like it? Murderers and drug dealers don't get anything close to this.

DMCA may as well stand for "Devious Means of forcing Castroism on America". I think there needs to be a MCAA- Media Consumer Association of America- that represents the people and serves to keep an eye on fatcat suit organizations like RIAA and MPAA.
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Legalize Marijuana!
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I think you have your politics mixed up. Castro is left wing, communism is left wing. Bush is right wing, as is America generally. What we're actually seeing is something that edges towards fascism.

Neither is good. Try living in the UK, where you can't even get 200 yards down the road without passing an assortment of CCTV cameras. There's even a new TV channel showing local CCTV cameras, where the police encourage watchers to report what they see.

You don't believe me do you?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jh ... wsnew.html

How about now?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/04/18/anpr_delayed/

Now?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/04/10/cctv_teachers/

Kind of scary isn't it?

http://www.samizdata.net/blog/archives/002285.html

I wish I could say that's a fake. It isn't.
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You know, when I first saw the topic title, I thought there was a new Devil May Cry game in the works. ^_^

Then again, both DMC and DRM have something in common. They are both shoddily made, invasive technologies which have the unusual ability to corrupt whatever technologies they appear on. The only difference being that while most people would rather see DMC meet it's maker, DRM is able to communicate with it.
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Now I see the difference between Fascism and Communism. Both of these have totalitarianism in common, which just may be the thing that misled me into thinking them the same.

I've heard about this CCTV thing in the UK before, and I think it's truly awful. It seems to me that Blair hates democracy, worse than Bush. That CCTV channel itself is particularly galling, trying to turn viewers into vigilantes. Frankly, if I were in the UK I'd emigrate.

As for the terrorism threat, I think we're "Overprotected" with that Patriot Act. Laws existing beforehand are enough to combat terrorism. I fear living under Big Brother even more than I fear being geeked by some terrorist nutjob. If you give up liberties, the terrorists win.

I really want a Libertarian president next election. Unfortunately, past elections haven't been kind to other parties. :(
bloodflowers wrote:I think you have your politics mixed up. Castro is left wing, communism is left wing. Bush is right wing, as is America generally. What we're actually seeing is something that edges towards fascism.

Neither is good. Try living in the UK, where you can't even get 200 yards down the road without passing an assortment of CCTV cameras. There's even a new TV channel showing local CCTV cameras, where the police encourage watchers to report what they see.

You don't believe me do you?
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bloodflowers wrote:
http://www.samizdata.net/blog/archives/002285.html

I wish I could say that's a fake. It isn't.
this has to be joke?
i can't wait until we all have a RFID chip implant so that every single of our movements can be tracked and recorded, this chip being mandatory to find a job or access any service.
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Yet again they use the 'fight terrorism' excuse to foister off another invasive Bill. Quote;
"quite frankly, to fund terrorism activities."
(= Taken from Specineff's news.co.com article).

Globalisation and Big Brother are gathering pace. Governments are bringing in their measures in softly softly phased ways; introducing Bills/ Schemes then turning the screws once they're in place.

The most annoying thing is that you and I can't really do anything to stop it :? :?:

can we?
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Wow. And some people want to increase the power of the federal government...
Romania enters EU in 2007 with 2mil Gypsies [DEL's post subject]
lol, what?
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Ah, this is the "modded Xbox = 10 years in prison" legislation.

Guess I'll write my representatives again. Here's hoping it will do any good at all... the Democrats love the industry as much as the Reps do... gee, corporate personhood was such a great idea!

I shouldn't whine so much, I guess. It's not as if I was disenfranchised or anything when I was made to compete with incredibly rich and potentially immortal meta-citizens for the ear of my government.
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Neon wrote:Wow. And some people want to increase the power of the federal government...
Methinks this is hardly a partisan issue, as both the administration and legislature which created and are backing this thing are supposedly conservative...they certainly don't seem averse to increasing their scope. And of course, this is hardly the only case wherein this is evident, but I'll leave it at that...in any event, as howmuchkeefe said, regardless of political ideology, have lobbyist, will travel.
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Romania enters EU in 2007 with 2mil Gypsies [DEL's post subject]

Neon Replied;
lol, what?
(Off Topic - I just put that in because its another case of 'we can't stop it'. To explain: The addition of 2mil hardcore professional begging gypsies into Germany, France, Italy and eventually the UK will be a nasty shock to the residents. Romania is not ready to enter the EU, but still the Powers that Be are bringing them in. Do they really think that 2mil Gypsies will knuckle down and get jobs & be a benefit to local economies? = Of course not. They obviously have some other nefarious purpose for this move.)

End of Off Topic....Apologies :wink:
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Post by Neon »

Ah, I get it now, sorry Del. Now for more off topic ;)
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Neon wrote:Wow. And some people want to increase the power of the federal government...
Methinks this is hardly a partisan issue, as both the administration and legislature which created and are backing this thing are supposedly conservative...they certainly don't seem averse to increasing their scope. And of course, this is hardly the only case wherein this is evident, but I'll leave it at that...in any event, as howmuchkeefe said, regardless of political ideology, have lobbyist, will travel.
Well you know I'm into the Friedman right now and just trying to make sense of things, so I won't try to debate with someone obviously well-informed. Maybe I'm just being pessimistic, but it does seem like we're just paying to get screwed, in almost every case. You could get more putting your social security money into a bank account and letting the interest collect than what they give you, for example [sez Milton]. Another: the FDA. Seems like drug companies already have enough of an incentive to make products which aren't harmful in terms of general profits/not getting their asses sued off/repeat business. Seems like civil liberties are often suspended in war and now that we're in an endless war (the Bushes seem fond of that)...I dunno, what do you think?
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Heh, I'm hardly anything remotely resembling an expert when it comes to anything remotely political...the only reason I said what I said is because I truly don't see this thing as a partisan issue...as I said, whether or not the controlling party has "limiting government size" on its agenda has nothing to do with it, since the current power-holders seem quite willing to sweep that under the rug for the moment, and their opposition surely wouldn't have any reservations about it either, if it suited their short-term interests (I'm sure you know of the Great American Flip-Flop that occurred way back during the Lousiana Purchase...it's only gotten worse since then). I'd just rather not see this already-volatile debate given political overtones, especially when they're really not applicable here anyway.

As for the other stuff you mentioned, I pretty much go by the old quote "There are 3 types of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics." Some, such as Friedman, claim to have numbers which "debunk" pretty much everything on the liberal agenda, while others, such as Paul Krugman, present data which supposedly "debunks" every conservative goal ever put on the table. I'm sure there's at least some truth (or "truthiness," as the neologism goes) on each side, but seeing as the current political climate dictates that ANY move in "the opposite direction" from one's chosen alliance must be met with radical, anything-goes, thick-skinned resistance, whatever useful information there is is inevitably buried under an avalanche of other "facts" before anyone can digest them. And of course, the limits of "civil liberties," in particular, will never be decided upon...someone's toes are ALWAYS going to be trodden on at any given point in time, it just depends upon who the current people in power favors.

In short, I'm pretty much convinced that people can never govern themselves very capably, no matter what...the bits of information I occasionally refer to in debates and whatnot are almost always used to refute somebody who think that "his side" has the answer to absolutely everything and "their side" is always wrong. As anyone who pays the least bit of attention can tell you, that is NEVER the case.
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bloodflowers wrote:Try living in the UK, where you can't even get 200 yards down the road without passing an assortment of CCTV cameras. There's even a new TV channel showing local CCTV cameras, where the police encourage watchers to report what they see.
NPR reported on this in passing this week. It occurred to me that this is as much Fahrenheit 451 as it is Big Brother although, admittedly, in 451 the would be watchers had to free themselves from the assgroove and go outside.

(Of course, if you've got a full-wall videoscreen on every wall of your house, there's no reason the CCTV's can't simply provide a wide-angle view straight "through" those walls.)
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chtimi-CLA wrote:
bloodflowers wrote:
http://www.samizdata.net/blog/archives/002285.html

I wish I could say that's a fake. It isn't.
this has to be joke?
i can't wait until we all have a RFID chip implant so that every single of our movements can be tracked and recorded, this chip being mandatory to find a job or access any service.
If you watch the sci-fi film, "The Cutter", with Robin Williams... 1 out of every 20 people have this organic computer chip that records everything a person sees or hears in their brain. When a person dies, their loved ones send in the dearly departed's memories to a "Re-memory" to be carefully select memories of the loved one courtesy of a "cutter" (a person who edits the personal memories of a deceased person who has an enplanted organic memory chip). Of course, after viewing "The Cutter" twice, I had to deduce that the timeline was set in an alternate 2052 A.D. timeline from the scant clues given through out the movie. Far fetched hi-tech ideas whose time is yet to come. ^_~

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