I should probably look into making a batch of those, most people just want HDMI out and don't even need the analogue so, yeah.I have this board in my original launch Wii, but unfortunately I'm not aware of any source for a preassembled ready-to-install version.
My assumption is that the RGB functionality might be left off to reduce complexity and cost. They will sell more of them if they are easier to install and cheaper.GeneraLight wrote: Hopefully not. It's pretty easy to update the WiiDual's firmware now.
Well, yeah, I was just hunting for a new "feature" and scaling options is the only thing I could imagine.As for the scaling, you can take the lossless digital 480p picture and scale it to whatever you want with a dedicated scaler already.
Yes; 240p as well.bahamutfan64 wrote:Can’t you just transcode the 480p (or 480i) over HDMI to component with an external converter?
Of course you can do this, just the Wii Dual has that bit more flexibility of dual output and doesn't require a converter. Finding a good HDMI to VGA converter isn't always easy especially as they don't seem to be consistent, at least at the budget end of the market.I remember the idea with the WiiDigital was that it could fully replace the WiiDual's analogue output also since the digital output could be set to the original unscaled video, which then can be converted to analogue RGB with an HDMI to VGA dongle.
This is how I usually use my DCHDMI and it works fine, even with light guns. I believe some HDMI to VGA converters won't pass through interlace and/or 240p though.Which makes me wish the PS1/2Digital and DCHDMI could do the same, so people can use them on 15khz or multisync CRTs but with clean RGB + digital audio (extracting the digital audio from the HDMI output before the DAC).
Really? I thought the DCHDMI could only do 480p and above. Was that added in a recent firmware? If so, that's great news, and hopefully gets implemented in the other Digital products as well.BuckoA51 wrote:This is how I usually use my DCHDMI and it works fine, even with light guns. I believe some HDMI to VGA converters won't pass through interlace and/or 240p though.
I believe what BuckoA51 was saying is that he uses an HDMI to VGA converter for 480p light gun usage. You are correct that the DCHDMI doesn't output 15kHz; the smallest option for output resolution is 640x480.fernan1234 wrote:Really? I thought the DCHDMI could only do 480p and above. Was that added in a recent firmware? If so, that's great news, and hopefully gets implemented in the other Digital products as well.BuckoA51 wrote:This is how I usually use my DCHDMI and it works fine, even with light guns. I believe some HDMI to VGA converters won't pass through interlace and/or 240p though.
And yeah, cheap HDMI-VGA dongles have become hit or miss. At least experimenting with a bunch doesn't cost too much, or one can always go with something reliable but more expensive like an HDFury.
Oh I see. Yes I get RGBHV @ 15khz from the Dreamcast's analogue output (and combine it into RGBS with an Extron unit for my monitor), but it would be nice to get that plus clean digital audio at the same time.nmalinoski wrote:I believe what BuckoA51 was saying is that he uses an HDMI to VGA converter for 480p light gun usage. You are correct that the DCHDMI doesn't output 15kHz; the smallest option for output resolution is 640x480.
If you want to use your Dreamcast on a 15kHz-only CRT, your best bet is to use the native analogue output (composite, S-Video, RGB, or RGB into something like an RGB2COMP).
Couldn't you use an SPDIF mod for the Dreamcast and the standard analog video output to achieve that goal?fernan1234 wrote:Yes I get RGBHV @ 15khz from the Dreamcast's analogue output (and combine it into RGBS with an Extron unit for my monitor), but it would be nice to get that plus clean digital audio at the same time.
Yes, but in my own setup that wouldn't be ideal because I prefer to get all digital video/audio sources via HDMI into an HDMI matrix and extract a single SPDIF out from there into my amplifier, rather than having to manually switch SPDIF connections or add an SPDIF switch.Unseen wrote:Couldn't you use an SPDIF mod for the Dreamcast and the standard analog video output to achieve that goal?
The DCDigital doesn't preclude use of the analogue video output. You could do what you do now for video (analogue RGB), then send HDMI output to your receiver for audio.fernan1234 wrote:Yes, but in my own setup that wouldn't be ideal because I prefer to get all digital video/audio sources via HDMI into an HDMI matrix and extract a single SPDIF out from there into my amplifier, rather than having to manually switch SPDIF connections or add an SPDIF switch.Unseen wrote:Couldn't you use an SPDIF mod for the Dreamcast and the standard analog video output to achieve that goal?
But more importantly I think adding 15khz support to the digital products like the DCHDMI, PS1Digital, and upcoming WiiDigital would make them allrounders, usable for all cases with a single device/mod: digital displays, SD CRTs, digital audio, and streaming/capture.
True, I'm just thinking toward the future and how nice it would be as more digital-to-digital projects arise for various systems, it would be great to get rid of console-specific RGB cables and analogue switches, and instead use HDMI cables for all of them, only needing a single analogue cable or adapter at the end of the chain.nmalinoski wrote:The DCDigital doesn't preclude use of the analogue video output. You could do what you do now for video (analogue RGB), then send HDMI output to your receiver for audio.
Which bits are you talking about? Isn't that just two ceramic caps and a fixed inductor? Like $1 plus $4 shipping on mouser, no?Syntax wrote:You could buy a broken wii for less than the price you would pay for those bits new and the headache of finding the values. Salvage them. Super tiny and hard to do.
Just wanted to bump this question that was asked a while back in this thread and never directly answered, as I am having my WiiDual board installed and want to check on the latest status. Is there a software-updatable (v3+) version of GCVideo compatible with the WiiDual yet? Or is the WiiDual still on v2.4 for one reason or another? Thanks!vol.2 wrote:No, I haven't done that update. Thanks for telling me. This is basically what I've been waiting for. So, basically, after this update, I can just button it up and any future ones I can do with an SD card, right?Link83 wrote:The latest GCVideo 3.0e update was released just last week and supports software updates using .dol files (Assuming you have a way of running homebrew) So if you have already updated to Dan's WiiDual 3.0e release using an external programmer, then there probably isn't much of a reason reason to keep your system disassembled.vol.2 wrote:I haven't put my WiiDual back together in it's case yet because I was thinking there might be another firmware update.
Is it possible there will be, or should I just go ahead and put the thing back in it's case already?
Thanks
Yes the WiiDual has a 3.0e firmware release directly from Dan (The WiiDual creator):-awe444 wrote:Just wanted to bump this question that was asked a while back in this thread and never directly answered, as I am having my WiiDual board installed and want to check on the latest status. Is there a software-updatable (v3+) version of GCVideo compatible with the WiiDual yet? Or is the WiiDual still on v2.4 for one reason or another? Thanks!
Edit: Found info on the GitHub release page (mentioned in the quote) which pretty obviously implies that yes the WiiDual has homebrew-updatable functionality in v3.0e. Guess that answers that!
Thanks for clarifying, much appreciated! Yes mine’s from the last batch so that makes things a whole lot simpler. And now I know where to look for future updatesLink83 wrote:Yes the WiiDual has a 3.0e firmware release directly from Dan (The WiiDual creator):-
http://dansprojects.com/firmware/WiiDual/
If your WiiDual was purchased from the final production run (Last few months) then your WiiDual should already have the latest 3.0e firmware preinstalled. If your WiiDual is from an older production batch, then you will likely need an external programmer to update the firmware.
Yes, and chroma interpolation has no effect in this mode.Joelepain wrote:If I disable the chroma interpolation and I set the output to YCbCr 4:2:2 and I set all the picture ajustements to 0, is the video data left absolutely untouched and sent bit for bit perfect to the output ?
Possibly. You'd have to test it. There's no reason to use RGB if you can avoid it.Joelepain wrote:My final concern is that I'm using a vp50pro to deinterlace and upscale the picture, and knowing it internally process in YCbCr 4:2:2 format, is it worth it to change the output of the gcvideo to this setting, or just stick to regular RGB Full range 4:4:4 ?
No, the data is reshuffled and padded to 12 bits per component to conform with the required data layout. Furthermore, if "Fix resolution" is enabled, additional black video data is generated to properly center the Gamecube's video signal and make sure it processed in the correct aspect ratio by the receiver and if you have enabled line doubline, every line in the video data is duplicated by GCVideo.Joelepain wrote:If I disable the chroma interpolation and I set the output to YCbCr 4:2:2 and I set all the picture ajustements to 0, is the video data left absolutely untouched and sent bit for bit perfect to the output ?
Do you mean that the GCVideo process internally in 12 bits, or is it really just "padding" just to conform to certain parts of the FPGA (I really don't know how these works so sorry for the nebulous vocabulary).Unseen wrote:No, the data is reshuffled and padded to 12 bits per component to conform with the required data layout
No, it's just how HDMI YCbCr 4:2:2 is formatted. This isn't a problem for limited range video.Joelepain wrote:Do you mean that the GCVideo process internally in 12 bits, or is it really just "padding" just to conform to certain parts of the FPGA (I really don't know how these works so sorry for the nebulous vocabulary).
I've only done the one WiiDual install, but your pictures look ok to me. Seems like you shorted 1 and 2 and removed the D term components like you should.splits wrote: I just see a brief white flash over composite, then nothing.
I don't have one with enough bandwidth to see composite video signals, unfortunately. Maybe I should think about getting one...vol.2 wrote:If you have an oscilloscope, you could put it in video mode and trace the path back to see what's what. If you don't, I'm not sure what you could do.
