Want to add a VCR to my setup

[Nodoyuna]

Hi

I'm planning on adding a videotape player to my setup
I have a PVM-2950 that can take RGBS, S-Video and Composite as inputs
My problem is that my VCR only does have SCART output
I already know that VHS tapes are coded in composite, so no real RGBS on the SCART output
As a result, I don't have any image on my PVM

What a need is some device or converter that can take Composite SCART as input and RCA (yellow,red,white) as outputs
This way I could connect that output to the composite plug of the PVM and have an image

Does a device like this exists? If not, what options do I have?

I know there are pro VCR sets on ebay that have s-video outputs, but I'd like to use the player I already have

Thanks in advance

[Fudoh]

The scart output on your VCR outputs native composite. All you need a scart to RCA/Cinch adapter cable, which you pick up for a few EUR on ebay. If the composite input on your 2950 is BNC you additionally need a Cinch/BNC adapter plug.

[FinalBaton]

Yes, the adapter you need exists and it's easy to find on Ebay or elsewhere online.

[Dochartaigh]

Besides the adapter needed, just wanted to chime in with my experience with VHS on pro CRT's. Contrary to how or why this should be, I've had several pro (talking like 70ish pound rack mounted types) VHS players, and Super VHS players. Somehow a VCR tape always looks WAY better through the S-Video output of the Super VHS player (which plays VHS tapes too) than the Composite of the VHS player. Think the decoder or whatever in the SVHS deck has a thumbs-up vs. how multiple PVM/BVM CRT's process the signal.

My current full signal chain is Sony S-VHS (smaller pro medical one, not even the HUGE ones) outputting S-Video, to a Kramer S-Video to RGBS converter (which could also have an effect on the image), then that runs to my CRT's (I do this to standardize all my signals so they're RGBS).

I'll not lie, the first time I tried this it kinda blew my mind how good VHS looked on a pro CRT. Granted this was with brand new VHS tapes from eBay. The vast majority of the used tapes I found at my parents house looked pretty crappy (like I remembered them always looking growing up) still, unfortunately.

[FinalBaton]

Interesting. I always thought a VHS deck was better for VHS tapes than a Super-VHS deck. I've never tried a SVHS one, I have a broadcast/medial grade VCR here.

I'm guessing maybe it's the internal TBC that makes the difference?

I struggle to see why the S-VHS deck would be better otherwise. even tho VHS tapes store the picture using the colour-under system, I thought it was not possible to extract separate chroma and luma at the source, and instead have to extract composite video and then process it to separate Y/C. Also I thought that the bandwith of chroma was so damn low, that it didn't make a difference. Basically, I saw the s-video port connexion for VHS as additional processing (instead of fewer processing like you guys describe it) which is never a good thing to have in the chain.

[Fudoh]

For a majority of setups a great s-video deck would indeed be the best solution.

I never tried one of the big Sony SVO deck with s-video output (or a s-video consumer Sony deck for that matter), but when I captured a hundred or so tapes something like 16, 17 years ago, I tried A LOT of decks and the Sony SVO deck I settled for, did produce a picture considerably better than a JVC 9600 s-video deck (and leagues better than any consumer vhs deck). This certainly comes down to the whole processing chain though, so the sink (capture card, processor or monitor/TV) plays a big role as well.

[kitty666cats]

Anyone else here have a JVC DVR that has a built-in VCR that allows component output for VHS? I have a DR-MV5S that I got for $10 at a thrift store quite recently, it even came with the remote! Quite weird seeing a unit there that had "Progressive Scan VHS" written on it - by holding a button on the remote you can force VHS on the component out to be linedoubled to 480p. Doesn't look half bad! Here's a couple quick photos I took a few weeks back where I fed the front composite input a signal from my Pioneer Laserdisc player, output it in 480i component, and sent it to my GBS8200 w/ GBScontrol. I then set GBScontrol's output to 15kHz 240p component (didn't have a sync combiner at the time for the 15kHz RGBHV the downscaling provides), and ran that into one of linuxbot3000's YPbPr to RGBHV/RGBS transcoders. Said transcoder's normally shipped out set at RGBHV out, but there's a jumper inside for setting it to RGBS. Ran that into my 34" multiformat Sampo with Mike Moffitt's mod (can be found on the NetTV thread) and snapped some pics of 240p'd Karate Kid on Laserdisc, heh.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CD2v_A3F_VM/

[Fudoh]

SVO-1500P (it's a multi-format machine with full PAL and NTSC support both for playback and recording).

The JVCs are good, and if s-video is what somebody wants (so eliminating any chance of using an external comb filter or making use of a capture card with a good CF), but for the best possible composite signal I would vote for the Sony anytime.

[Steamflogger Boss]

Anyone else here have a JVC DVR that has a built-in VCR that allows component output for VHS? I have a DR-MV5S that I got for $10 at a thrift store quite recently, it even came with the remote! Quite weird seeing a unit there that had "Progressive Scan VHS" written on it - by holding a button on the remote you can force VHS on the component out to be linedoubled to 480p. Doesn't look half bad! Here's a couple quick photos I took a few weeks back where I fed the front composite input a signal from my Pioneer Laserdisc player, output it in 480i component, and sent it to my GBS8200 w/ GBScontrol. I then set GBScontrol's output to 15kHz 240p component (didn't have a sync combiner at the time for the 15kHz RGBHV the downscaling provides), and ran that into one of linuxbot3000's YPbPr to RGBHV/RGBS transcoders. Said transcoder's normally shipped out set at RGBHV out, but there's a jumper inside for setting it to RGBS. Ran that into my 34" multiformat Sampo with Mike Moffitt's mod (can be found on the NetTV thread) and snapped some pics of 240p'd Karate Kid on Laserdisc, heh.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CD2v_A3F_VM/

Yeah those JVC DVDRs are pretty nice. They can do just about anything you would want them to.