TV or Monitor recommendations for GBA consolizer

[slai50]

For those who own a GBA consolizer, what TV or monitor are you using for the best picture quality? Should I go with OLED, QLED or an old 720p TV? I am not on any budget just want the best possible picture.

[fernan1234]

I'd go with a "small" LCD display, ideally 720p but that's going to be hard to find nowadays. Should look fine upscaled to 1080p or higher. The GBA screen was LCD, so it feels right. I use an OLED monitor but those are also not readily available.

One suggestion I find more important is to use whatever "wide" or "native" color gamut your display has, as opposed to the default or auto setting (which is Rec. 709, the standard for HD television), because none of the color correction presets on the GBAConsolizer quite match the non-sRGB colors of the original GBA or the GBA Micro otherwise, but I've gotten them to look almost identical by using the wide/native gamut.

[strayan]

I second a 720p set. Preferably one that supports 1:1 pixel mapping like a lot of the old Sony LCD with VGA inputs.

[BuckoA51]

I've tried it on a 4k LG C9 and on a CRT monitor with a video processor to do AR correction, it looked fantastic on both.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EYFu_6jXgAE ... name=large

Honestly if I had to choose the CRT was best but it's a bit of an esoteric setup and my VP50 just died anyway

[Lawfer]

This should be clear that there are no 720p displays, they just don't exist (maybe one or two models with a native resolution of 1280x720 might have existed out there back in 2005 or something but 99.99% of them are not 720p for sure), what is called "720p" or what they used to be commercialised as "HD Ready" actually uses a native resolution of 1366x768, when the GBAConsolizer output 1280x720, the aspect ratio isn't even the same (1366x768 is not even technically 16:9).

I have a GBAConsolizer, I am using a 1080p TV and use an Extron DSC 301 HD to upscale the 1280x720 of the GBAConsolizer to 1920x1080.

[Fudoh]

maybe one or two models with a native resolution of 1280x720 might have existed out there back in 2005 or something but 99.99% of them are not 720p for sure

not that it relates to the thread's topic in any way, but to elaborate on that: the only TVs with 720 lines of resolution that I know of a line of 37" Panasonic Plasma TVs. While being 16:9 and having a true 720p resolution, they only had 1024 pixels per line though.

[strayan]

There were some 1280x768 TVs too.

Doesn’t really matter when your TV will display 1280x720 perfectly centered in a 1366x768 frame.

[bobrocks95]

Why would you seek out a very old, outdated LCD instead of just putting it on either a modern VA monitor with 1:1 mapping or an OLED?

[Lawfer]

maybe one or two models with a native resolution of 1280x720 might have existed out there back in 2005 or something but 99.99% of them are not 720p for sure

not that it relates to the thread's topic in any way, but to elaborate on that: the only TVs with 720 lines of resolution that I know of a line of 37" Panasonic Plasma TVs. While being 16:9 and having a true 720p resolution, they only had 1024 pixels per line though.

Thanks, I remember you mentioning this is another thread, I remember you also mentioned that only projectors have a native resolution of 1280x720, there's also some CRTs like the Sony BVM-D/A 24/32 which can do 1280x720 (though no HDMI inputs) and some of Ikegami and JVC CRTs can do 720p, but it's letterboxed since the monitors aspect ratio are 4:3.

[Bassa-Bassa]

Too bad the consolizer doesn't support true GBA native rez and analog output. It could have easily done with borders, on CRTs.


Aren't most of PS3 2D games 1280 x 720 native? And yet, not even Sony had TVs like that? I thought the 768p thing came later for PC compatibility.

[Lawfer]

Too bad the consolizer doesn't support true GBA native rez and analog output. It could have easily done with borders, on CRTs.

Yeah it definitly could have been done, the PSP does just that, a 480x272 picture inside a 720x480 frame. But the GBAConsolizer only has a mini HDMI output (so no CRT support) with a resolution output of 1280x720.

Aren't most of PS3 2D games 1280 x 720 native?

Most PS3 games are 1280x720 max whether they be 2D or 3D, some games like the Final Fantasy XIII trilogy, Zone of the Enders, Time and Eternity and such had 1080p capabilities, but unlike with the Xbox 360 you couldn't get most games on PS3 to output at 1080p, I am using an Extron DSC 301 HD to upscale PS3 720p games to 1080p since games like for example Folklore, Tales of Graces f, Tales of Xillia, Tales of Xillia 2, Tales of Symphonia Chronicles, Drakengard 3, Trinity Souls of Zill O'll and such will only run at 1280x720 max on PS3.

[coderkind]

Has anyone tried the GBA Consolizer into a LG CX OLED (this year)? Mine doesn’t recognise the console is connected. I’ve tried updating the TV firmware but not updating the Consolizer firmware to latest.

[bahamutfan64]

You can always use an Extron DSC 301 HD to center the 720p image within a 1080p frame.

[bobrocks95]

Really surprised to hear that the CX won't take the 720p signal from the consolizer. Are you using the slightly overclocked 60Hz mode?

[coderkind]

Really surprised to hear that the CX won't take the 720p signal from the consolizer. Are you using the slightly overclocked 60Hz mode?

I’m using the firmware that came shipped originally with the Consolizer; I haven’t updated to this year’s firmware yet due to the painful process.

The original firmware used the upclocked speed I think; the latest firmware is supposed to offer you a choice of original speed or more-compatible upclocked.

No joy with mine into the CX though so far; also tried via a HDMI switch and a ViewHD HDMI splitter.

[Lawfer]

I’m using the firmware that came shipped originally with the Consolizer; I haven’t updated to this year’s firmware yet due to the painful process.

Not only that, they are warning you that you could easily mess things up during that process and so don't provide any updating process guide and instead tell you to send it out to a professional to update it, but also these are BETA firmwares meaning, you'll have to do it again when/if the non-beta firmware(s) comes out.

The original firmware used the upclocked speed I think; the latest firmware is supposed to offer you a choice of original speed or more-compatible upclocked.

The beta firmware offers two choices, 59.73Hz and 60Hz, that's a nice choice, unfortunately since the GBA Consolizer is an HDMI-only device you probably won't be able to take advantage of the 59.73Hz mode on most HDMI displays since they are very restrictive in what resolution and refresh rate they accept and are able to display properly, this is not an issue for most CRTs.

No joy with mine into the CX though so far; also tried via a HDMI switch and a ViewHD HDMI splitter.

Is DVI+ enabled? Usually it comes as disabled by default, but if it is, that might be problem.

[Guspaz]

The CX televisions have a VRR range of 40Hz through 120Hz, so in theory, it shouldn't have a problem with things that are slightly off 60Hz.

[coderkind]

Is DVI+ enabled? Usually it comes as disabled by default, but if it is, that might be problem.

That was seemingly the problem; good catch! Thanks. Haven’t had that be an issue on any other display I’ve tried it on; the CX refuses to deal with it.

Also since noticed that the 5x scale of Game Boy games gets vertically clipped (no matter the aspect ratio option I choose). I have to use 4x if I want a linear crisp uncliped upscale, along with the analog audio from the 3.5mm audio jack.

Basically, LG’s CX OLEDs seemingly don’t like the GBA Consolizer much. Am using latest TV firmware (for anyone interested).

[Lawfer]

the CX refuses to deal with it.

Even with DVI+ disabled? (not sure if you meant to say "refused" instead of "refuses").

Basically, LG’s CX OLEDs seemingly don’t like the GBA Consolizer much. Am using latest TV firmware (for anyone interested).

The beta firmwares? Not the 1.0.2 one?

[coderkind]

the CX refuses to deal with it.

Even with DVI+ disabled? (not sure if you meant to say "refused" instead of "refuses").

Basically, LG’s CX OLEDs seemingly don’t like the GBA Consolizer much. Am using latest TV firmware (for anyone interested).

The beta firmwares? Not the 1.0.2 one?

1.0.2 works without DVI+ enabled (it refuses to deal with it otherwise). I haven't tried the beta firmwares yet as it sounds like a pain to dissemble the console just to update the firmware; I'll probably attempt to do it once the firmware is finalised, but I know there was an issue with the last firmware that caused it to be un-recommended.

[coderkind]

The CX televisions have a VRR range of 40Hz through 120Hz, so in theory, it shouldn't have a problem with things that are slightly off 60Hz.

I would've thought so as well, but it seemingly doesn't like the signal (with DVI+ enabled).

[JeffGodOfBiscuits]

Just wanted to pop in to say that I recently had the GBA Consolizer mod installed with firmware v1.1.0. With my LG CX, I was unable to get a signal when DVI+ is enabled. Once I disable it, there is of course no audio which is going to be a huge pain to deal with my home theater setup, but them's the breaks.

I didn't try DVI+ enabled with the 60hz mode yet, so I don't know if that makes any difference.