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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 12:14 pm 


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I had this fucked up tic as a kid where I'd deliberately get the black sheep of the iconic bands' catalogues, sometimes at the expense of their best stuff.

Same here, although less born from a desire of swimming against the (main) stream, but from a firm conviction that my favourite bands cruelly hid some of their best work on subpar albums, presumably to make these hidden gems shine a little more.

Case in point, March Ör Die certainly qualifies as one of Motörhead’s weakest releases, but the wonderfully energetic opener Stand and the grim and monotonous title track never cease to amaze me.

Same goes for Maiden’s Fear Of The Dark that bizarrely buries the sublime trio of Be Quick…, Afraid… and the title track in a sea of painful dross.

Two records I really learned to appreciate the CD format over vinyl for.


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Strangers, what an atmospheric gem. Was my metal gateway drug, specifically those lyrical guitar bridges and soaring dual leads. I know "soaring dual lead" is standard-issue for Maiden/Priest et al, but I was totally new and it absolutely stunned me - I can distinctly recall where I was, listening to a friend's battered cassette copy of Fear on the bus home. Hearing such fiery and catchy hooks during peak Hootie was revelatory.

On par with Fight Fire With Fire's opening riff blowing my head off, long since inured but at the time it was like a baby biting a lemon.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:32 pm 


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A really great evil, dissonant, crass record by our good buddy Glen Danzig! Love that one

Some of his better stuff for sure. After recently digging deeper into solo Danzig stuff(knew S/T from way back but none of the other stuff except music vids. some gems in there too), that's the conclusion I'm reaching. This one (November Coming Fire) I heard when I was a teen and I always loved it. my goth-punk cousin Sonia, who loves Misfits/Samhain/Danzig, really sang the praise of NCF back then and wanted all of us into our group of friends to hear it. I'm glad she got me hip to that one!
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Great record indeed - possibly the best-balanced display of Danzig's diverse talents for bloody-nosed punk, pop hooks and vintage crooning. :cool: Of his self-titled stuff, although the subsequent trio have lots of scattered highlights, the debut is the one I always come back to. I find "Soul On Fire" a bit radio and will sometimes chop it, but there's no denying the guy can write catchy stuff, and the pitch-black, bone-dry, balls-hard remainder is pretty damn hooky too.

AM I DEMON is one of those utter ripoffs that transcends its criminal genesis. :mrgreen: The S/T's later half is my favourite, relentlessly evil/bleak/horny with a pair of total head-stompers in Albert King's The Hunter ("YEAHHH!") and EVIL_THING.

III/How The Gods Kill is my favourite of the followup trio, catchier but still firmly in the "doomy blues" mode. I chop "Dirty Black Summer," but just like the S/T the rest make up a thousandfold. "Do You Wear The Mark?" is model work, got a riff like an angle grinder. Image I'm just wondering if he ripped it off from somewhere, the evocation of S/T Sabbath is a little too perfect but I don't care either way. :lol:

II/Lucifuge is a bit overly arena-rock, though it's very good at what it does and paradoxically has one of his best doomers in PAIN IN THE WORLD, and while 4p has some incredible heights (like that total buzzsaw of an opener BRAND NEW GOD and its segue into easy groove/exploder Little Whip) it can also be generic in a way unheard on the prior three LPs (Son of the Morning Star and Stalker Song blur together for me, I just chop 'em).

It's a shame the Danzig/Eerie/Christ/BISCUITS lineup just vanished like it did, but they had a helluva run.

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Gamergate continues to deliver outstanding results, with celebrated leader MC Matt Jarbo's upcoming debut shaping up to be a killer. I'd never have guessed he had such a sharp ear for beats and rhymes! Like a lot of great rap it's very much NSFW, but Matt's artistic integrity was always the driving force of this movement, and he's obviously not about to back down now. JLP nails it on his guest spot.

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All this record needs now is a guest spot from OG Jarbo soldier Poley the Polar Bear. He was around even before Matt started GG, it's past time he got some of that good press.
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 Post subject: Re: What are you currently listening to?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:09 pm 


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It's a shame the Danzig/Eerie/Christ/BISCUITS lineup just vanished like it did, but they had a helluva run.


Oh I had forgotten that I wanted to say : So much fucking this.^^^^

Wow, what a quartet. (John Christ is a seriously underrated guitarist. His blues-metal chops are elite, no less)
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Been on a massive Planes Mistaken for Stars trip lately, prior to seeing them for the first time in 13 years Sunday just gone. Man, I've missed them.

Secured tickets for the reunited Jawbox's only UK show over here next year, so giving their back catalogue a good spin. Grippe and Novelty are entertaining, if patchy listening, but Sweetheart and Jawbox are both quality end to end. Looking forward to this.
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Secured tickets for the reunited Jawbox's only UK show over here next year, so giving their back catalogue a good spin. Grippe and Novelty are entertaining, if patchy listening, but Sweetheart and Jawbox are both quality end to end. Looking forward to this.

Awesome, enjoy your show. i only heard their first 4 releases, up to Sweetheart. I adore that particular album, have it on vinyl over here. Great blend of the more percussive/jackhammer Shellac rythm and dissonance and the poignant Mission of Burma/Rites of Springs melody and raw energy/enthusiasm. with their own spin on it (they are quite masterful at it too I find. that precise blend of theirs is a fine line to walk, but they walk it like a tightrope artist)

I've enjoyed early post-hardcore pretty seriously for a good chunk of my adult life, and I still do albeit less often since I'm more devoted to metal at the moment.
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 Post subject: Re: What are you currently listening to?
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Messing about with the Ramones' second and final decade. As with friends of the band and close parallels Motorhead, I find myself having to pick around filler more and more as the mid-80s arrive, but there's enough on-form and occasionally above-form gems to make it worth it. Animal Boy's title track absolutely murders, perfect get home from work and rattle the windows track. I'm Not Jesus is real fuckoff hardcore, with a fury even further removed from their poppy glory days. Garden of Serenity stretches itself a bit thin after a pristine start, but I prefer to think of it as a short song (even by their standards) with a hammering coda. Someone Like Me is toe-tapping pop on par with their absolute best from the classic first quartet, The KKK Took My Baby Away much the same in those records' blackly comical garage-ballad mode.

Big exception is Too Tough To Die, which is a genuinely rock-solid album, albeit slightly less aerodynamic than the first four.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:02 pm 


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Messing about with the Ramones' second and final decade. As with friends of the band and close parallels Motorhead, I find myself having to pick around filler more and more as the mid-80s arrive, but there's enough on-form and occasionally above-form gems to make it worth it. Animal Boy's title track absolutely murders, perfect get home from work and rattle the windows track. I'm Not Jesus is real fuckoff hardcore, with a fury even further removed from their poppy glory days. Garden of Serenity stretches itself a bit thin after a pristine start, but I prefer to think of it as a short song (even by their standards) with a hammering coda. Someone Like Me is toe-tapping pop on par with their absolute best from the classic first quartet, The KKK Took My Baby Away much the same in those records' blackly comical garage-ballad mode.

Big exception is Too Tough To Die, which is a genuinely rock-solid album, albeit slightly less aerodynamic than the first four.

I've been doing a bit of this also these past months.

I highly recommend you watch Razorfist's Ramones mythos recap on youtube, guy has good tastes and he goes though their whole discography and highlights the worthy stuff. I like his analysis the majority of the time, disagree here and there but I certainly trust him enough for a primer vid on a band. I used his vid here as baseline for my digging through the band's mid-eighties-and-up catalog, it at least gives the feel of each album which is helpful. a friend had an extensive compilation growing up but I hadn't heard some of these albums in so damn long, I needed a refresher : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7khDGIuzAWE

His whole Metal Mythos playlist is worthy too, for real : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9UFQTB ... EMjko66cYw

(his tastes align so much with yours that I sometimes think you and him are one and the same!) (except that he's whiter than sour cream, and you are a beautiful POC!)
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(except that he's whiter than sour cream, and you are a beautiful POC!)


:lol:

Razor's Mythos videos are great! He (or his persona) is a brash fucker, and I'm perplexed by his lauding Somewhere in Time yet excoriating Seventh Son (it's no Killers-style nailbomb, granted) - and he has some really, really broad uses of the term "prog" (Motorhead's Another Perfect Day... great record, but mildly extended guitar solos aside, I'm scratching my head at that description).

But you can't fake that passion. I like that he has a thing for extreme stuff as well as glam/hair metal - I am indeed much the same! Always got space on my mp3 player for Def Leppard's High & Dry, smart pop take on AC/DC. I watched his Dokken and Striper videos out of the idlest curiosity, came away with some surprising new favourites.

In hindsight, I kinda wince at him lauding Blackie Lawless's live voice, then cutting to him singing to an (AFAIK) canned backing track, but the WASP episode turned me onto their ST and a couple later highlights (The Headless Children and The Crimson Idol), too. Chop out a bit of dead wood from that ST (and the radio ballads from the latter two) and you've got some decent armour-plated pop rock.
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 Post subject: Re: What are you currently listening to?
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Razor's Mythos videos are great! He (or his persona) is a brash fucker, and I'm perplexed by his lauding Somewhere in Time yet excoriating Seventh Son (it's no Killers-style nailbomb, granted) - and he has some really, really broad uses of the term "prog" (Motorhead's Another Perfect Day... great record, but mildly extended guitar solos aside, I'm scratching my head at that description).

But you can't fake that passion. I like that he has a thing for extreme stuff as well as glam/hair metal - I am indeed much the same! Always got space on my mp3 player for Def Leppard's High & Dry, smart pop take on AC/DC. I watched his Dokken and Striper videos out of the idlest curiosity, came away with some surprising new favourites.

In hindsight, I kinda wince at him lauding Blackie Lawless's live voice, then cutting to him singing to an (AFAIK) canned backing track, but the WASP episode turned me onto their ST and a couple later highlights (The Headless Children and The Crimson Idol), too. Chop out a bit of dead wood from that ST (and the radio ballads from the latter two) and you've got some decent armour-plated pop rock.

Yep exactly! passion through the fucking roof. I too appreciate his defending a style he loves, what's sometime denigrated as "hair metal". I fully respect that. And I gotta say, his vids actually turned me unto WASP and Dokken. And hell, even fucking Stryper is decent if you're in the mood for that type of rock, I gotta say

It's through his vids(both Stryper's and Black Sabbath's) that I learned about tele evangelist Jimmy Swagart :lol: oh Jimmy... talk about not practising what you preach :lol: Ozzy's hilarious song AND video response Miracle Man becomes a real treat once you know the context! I also align with his take on Ozzy guitarist : #1 Randy Rhoads, #2 (very close) Jake E. Lee, #3 (pretty far) Zakk Wylde. Zakk is ok, I don't think I hate him as much as Razor does (he did churn out some chart hitting riffage after all), but I just don't dig his playing style nor his personnality.

I mostly agree with his black metal analysis too : his take being that the later tier of Darkthrone's output is kinda ridiculous and that Gorgoroth with Gaal and that other poseur on guitar is shit, while Gorgoroth whitout those two idiots is phenomenal! which is the right take. Bathory take is good too.
But I can't help but scratch my head at his lauding of bm band Judas Iscariot, whom I find boring to no end..

Had a feeling you might be already aware of his output, intersting that you took some stuff away from his vids, even though you knew these bands before hand

(oh btw, I'm not sure I've said it in the many Maiden discussions had on here but : I happen to REALLY like Somewhere in Time. Gotta listen to Seventh Son again though, haven't listened to it since I was a kid. My bro had a poster of that album and it creeped me the fuck out when I was 5 :lol: )



Going back to the Ramones, Too Tough To Die is really solid indeed as a whole as you said. I member liking it back then(my drummer had a copy, one of the few later Ramones records we had in our group of friends), and just listening to it now, yeah it's indeed solid.

now I'm curious and will listen to Animal Boy and Subterranean Jungle because there seems to be a handful of savage tracks there, under the more corny misses and more forgettable fare

Lastly, yes the parallels between the Ramones and Motorhead are really interesting. Lots of similarities in the career arcs of both, they truly are peers to one another despite the slight music style difference. lots of respect and admiration between the two
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Hey BIL,

Obscura says you absolutely need to buy the new Cianide record. Says it's crushing death-doom that's right up your alley
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He always has good death/doom recs! Image Noted, cheers. :cool:

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(oh btw, I'm not sure I've said it in the many Maiden discussions had on here but : I happen to REALLY like Somewhere in Time. Gotta listen to Seventh Son again though, haven't listened to it since I was a kid. My bro had a poster of that album and it creeped me the fuck out when I was 5 :lol: )


Somewhere In Time's title track, at the absolute least, is a must-hear and a good demonstration of how to first set up a vast atmospheric soundscape, then blast across it with such spiralling elan that the track seems half its actual length. An FTL space-metal juggernaut.

God damn, that intro and the subsequent blast-off are SHMUPPIN AS FUCK Image Visions of i-beams whizzing past and battleships going down in flames.

I like the similar dynamic at work in Stranger in a Strange Land - it's not a "prog" record per se, but that album has some great audio panoramas to it. Sea of Madness is punchier but has that same crisp retro-futuristic sound, too...

I was really surprised to hear Dickinson wasn't very onboard with that record, he's 10/10 throughout. Professionalism, I guess.
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Hey BIL,

Obscura says you absolutely need to buy the new Cianide record. Says it's crushing death-doom that's right up your alley


Haven't seen that name in awhile. Did he get the axe or did he just get tired of "owning the libs"?
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Haven't seen that name in awhile. Did he get the axe or did he just get tired of "owning the libs"?


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Ooh guvnor. :o I assumed he was just away, no "banned" tag. Temporary I suppose. Then again the most memorable flameouts tend to get erased off the board (proud to have been in attendance for JAPJAC's final ARCADE ACTION GAMING stand against his hated rivals - the Chinese! :lol:)
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Haven't seen that name in awhile. Did he get the axe or did he just get tired of "owning the libs"?


Yep, got banned


Ah lame, was hoping it was the latter even if I disagreed with him on a few things. Seem to be a few more bans lately.
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Seem to be a few more bans lately.

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Ooh guvnor. :o I assumed he was just away, no "banned" tag. Temporary I suppose. Then again the most memorable flameouts tend to get erased off the board (proud to have been in attendance for JAPJAC's final ARCADE ACTION GAMING stand against his hated rivals - the Chinese! :lol:)


Oh man, briefly remember that but forgetting the details! Still supremely upset I missed the reign of ATHEISTGOD.


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At first I was a bit bummed I'd marked up this perfectly good DARKMAN reaction gif (I know "good reaction gif" is something of an oxymoron :oops:), but in hindsight, he was truly worthy of commemorating Image

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Oh man, briefly remember that but forgetting the details! Still supremely upset I missed the reign of ATHEISTGOD.


I quite enjoyed ag1999's run 8)

Let me read a chapter off his unhautorized bio :


AG1999 unhautorized biography Chapter 6 : Sucking cock for PVM.
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Ahhh, went back and read some Satan and AG1999 posts (again). Between that and GP's recent thread it's been a nostalgic few weeks on the ol' shmups forum!


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Ahhh, went back and read some Satan and AG1999 posts (again). Between that and GP's recent thread it's been a nostalgic few weeks on the ol' shmups forum!


Sounds like I have some reading to do.
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