Any one else getting Trizeal this week?

sffan · Post by **sffan** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 3:52 am

PS2 port.

I should get this by the weekend. I don't care if it's spectacular, I just want a new shmup to play.

Edit: Sorry wrong forum.

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SAM · Post by **SAM** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:34 am

I thought of buying it, but I am a little tight recently.

As I already own the DC version, I might consider not buying this.

Herr Schatten · Post by **Herr Schatten** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 7:23 am

I just ordered it. I love the DC version and a) want to see if they changed anything and b) want to support Triangle Service, because I definitely want to see more games from them.

Post by **Ghegs** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 8:09 am

Mine shipped yesterday, should be receiving it next week. I'm very curious whether they cleaned up the slowdown which really helps in some places.

SAM · Post by **SAM** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:16 pm

It said it supports 480p at the back, Progressive Scan Mode?!?!

It is the second PS2 Shmups that support progressive scan.

icycalm · Post by **icycalm** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:24 pm

What's the first one?

I still haven't played this. I am going to buy the DC version next week, probably.

Sala Man · Post by **Sala Man** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:24 pm

Probably a stupid question but.. Can I assume this is import PS2 ?

Macaw · Post by **Macaw** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:26 pm

Sala Man wrote:Probably a stupid question but.. Can I assume this is import PS2 ?

yes

Neon · Post by **Neon** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:26 pm

Would this or Raiden 3 be better? I remember I tried a demo for this game and didn't like it, but apparently it wasn't actually a demo, so...

captain ahar · Post by **captain ahar** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:43 pm

i'll pick it up eventually most probably. my DC copy got traded out for Battle Garegga, but i've been missing the little bugger lately.

SAM · Post by **SAM** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:50 pm

icycalm wrote:What's the first one?

The Japanese version of Shikigami no Shiro 2.

BTW, I got a B2 size Trizeal Poster for sale, PM me an offer if you are interested?

CMoon · Post by **CMoon** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 2:06 pm

Neon wrote:Would this or Raiden 3 be better? I remember I tried a demo for this game and didn't like it, but apparently it wasn't actually a demo, so...

I actually prefer this to Raiden 3 (probably not win any friends with an opinon like that.) Although Raiden 3 has better production, it lacks the shooting-love that Trizeal has (or any love for that matter.) Raiden 3 is a game by machines, for machines (and yes, I own it and like it, but it will collect a lot of dust before I play it again...)

it290 · Post by **it290** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 2:23 pm

I tend to agree.

elvis · Post by **elvis** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:26 am

Neon wrote:Would this or Raiden 3 be better? I remember I tried a demo for this game and didn't like it, but apparently it wasn't actually a demo, so...

I didn't like Trizeal at all. I find Raiden 3 fairly uninteresting, but still better than Trizeal.

I'm all for supporting new shmups, particularly DC ones, but they need to actually be good otherwise I'm going to stop buying them (thank god for Under Defeat, is all I can say).

Herr Schatten · Post by **Herr Schatten** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:38 am

CMoon wrote:
Neon wrote:Would this or Raiden 3 be better? I remember I tried a demo for this game and didn't like it, but apparently it wasn't actually a demo, so...
I actually prefer this to Raiden 3 (probably not win any friends with an opinon like that.) Although Raiden 3 has better production, it lacks the shooting-love that Trizeal has (or any love for that matter.) Raiden 3 is a game by machines, for machines (and yes, I own it and like it, but it will collect a lot of dust before I play it again...)

I totally agree. Except that I don't really like Raiden III.

Kiken · Post by **Kiken** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 5:36 pm

Reading through various websites, it would appear that the Omake Stage is exclusive to the DC port whilst the Shooting Ginokentei minigame is exclusive to the PS2 port (both versions have the Lifting minigame though).

Can anyone confirm that?

xaer0knight · Post by **xaer0knight** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 5:53 pm

thats good news. its ported the the PS2 in Japan or the States? I was suprised that Chaos Field was ported the GC in the states, i was hoping Trizeal would of been the same story on the GC

icycalm · Post by **icycalm** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:39 pm

xaer0knight wrote:thats good news. its ported the the PS2 in Japan or the States? I was suprised that Chaos Field was ported the GC in the states, i was hoping Trizeal would of been the same story on the GC

What?

Arcatech · Post by **Arcatech** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:42 pm

thats good news. its ported the the PS2 in Japan or the States? I was suprised that Chaos Field was ported the GC in the states, i was hoping Trizeal would of been the same story on the GC Laughing
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Japan region only for now.

visuatrox · Post by **visuatrox** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:52 pm

Pre-ordered the game, so it should be arriving here soon

. And about it being compared with Raiden III. I think they are both good games, but can't be compared much as they feel and play very different.

iatneH · Post by **iatneH** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 9:00 pm

I erm... evaluated... the Dreamcast version, but I didn't find it to be exceptional, and I'm not sure if my opinion would be different even if I had spent $60 on it... plus money is going to be extremely tight since I am jobless ATM... and I want Metal Slug 6. All these add up against me getting this game.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 11:38 pm

Kiken wrote:Reading through various websites, it would appear that the Omake Stage is exclusive to the DC port whilst the Shooting Ginokentei minigame is exclusive to the PS2 port (both versions have the Lifting minigame though).

Can anyone confirm that?

I Love Trizeal, but I did not know about any minigames-what are they like?

And what the heck is an omake stage?

MadSteelDarkness · Post by **MadSteelDarkness** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 1:01 am

"Omake" = Extra or Bonus

At least that's what I've heard. Somebody with actual knowledge of Japanese can confirm or deny that...

Myself, since I've got the DC rev, I'll be skipping this version. No amount of extras will be able to beat lovely, native VGA goodness.

SAM · Post by **SAM** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 5:24 am

icycalm wrote:
xaer0knight wrote:thats good news. its ported the the PS2 in Japan or the States? I was suprised that Chaos Field was ported the GC in the states, i was hoping Trizeal would of been the same story on the GC
What?

Chaos Field even got a PS2 release.

Any extra on the PS2 version?

MadSteelDarkness wrote:Myself, since I've got the DC rev, I'll be skipping this version. No amount of extras will be able to beat lovely, native VGA goodness.

True for most case, but this time the PS2 version support progressive scan. The game would be nearly as good looking as in native VGA on DreamCase.

BUT, a big 'but', the PS2 vesion release on a CD-Rom and its loading time between stage is a LOTS longer that a DC GD-Rom.

postman · Post by **postman** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 1:17 pm

I got to play this last night, I'm not happy with the port.

Tons of slowdown........the battleship "boss" fight at the end of level three friggin crawls.........

Also, on the results screen, you can't hit start to skip it, you need to wait for all the scores to tally.......you can speed them up by holding a button down, but it's still extremely annoying. Also, your score doesn't reset when using a continue (maybe since I only played on very easy???).

What is nice is the omake, which is like a gauntlet of six different "tasks" you need to complete.......and each one allows for you to try for the highest level you can progress to.......so instead of just beating a stage, you are trying to improve your score in each section. Tasks include sniping the right color balloons, or just dodging a bullet hell storm.

I'd stick with the DC version unless you are really craving the omake....

Kiken · Post by **Kiken** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 1:47 pm

You know, it wasn't until 2 nights ago that I finally realized that the sotry page in the DC Trizeal manual is blank... save for one small line of text at the bottom written in English: "The story lies in... you."

Post by **Ghegs** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 5:52 pm

postman wrote:I got to play this last night, I'm not happy with the port.

Tons of slowdown........the battleship "boss" fight at the end of level three friggin crawls.........

About the same as in the DC port then, I'd guess. Which is appreciated as it makes the sections a good bit easier, but it'd be nice to test your skills against full-speed bullets. No Wait On/Off options, then?

Also, on the results screen, you can't hit start to skip it, you need to wait for all the scores to tally.......you can speed them up by holding a button down, but it's still extremely annoying.

This was the same in the DC port.

Also, your score doesn't reset when using a continue (maybe since I only played on very easy???).

You continue AND you play on Very Easy? That's it, you're not allowed here anymore.

Omake sounds cool.

visuatrox · Post by **visuatrox** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 6:06 pm

postman wrote:I got to play this last night, I'm not happy with the port.

Tons of slowdown........the battleship "boss" fight at the end of level three friggin crawls.........

Also, on the results screen, you can't hit start to skip it, you need to wait for all the scores to tally.......you can speed them up by holding a button down, but it's still extremely annoying.

Well this sounds exactly like the Dreamcast version, and that is the version I will be comparing with

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 7:26 pm

Kiken wrote:You know, it wasn't until 2 nights ago that I finally realized that the sotry page in the DC Trizeal manual is blank... save for one small line of text at the bottom written in English: "The story lies in... you."

Ladies and gentlemen, this year's Cop Out Award goes to...

Kiken · Post by **Kiken** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 8:25 pm

BulletMagnet wrote:
Kiken wrote:You know, it wasn't until 2 nights ago that I finally realized that the sotry page in the DC Trizeal manual is blank... save for one small line of text at the bottom written in English: "The story lies in... you."
Ladies and gentlemen, this year's Cop Out Award goes to...

Actually, that would be last year's.