Yeah supposedly the pro JVC sets have better-than-the-competition S-video decoding, which would make troubleshooting more confusing and harder for us to pinpoint the problem hereEinzelherz wrote:That's where my confusion comes in though. The same signal psyched through to my JVC doesn't have the same issue. I suppose I could try to add my 14L5 and 150cg to the mix to see if there's any consistency.
I guess your suggestion of trying on other Sony sets is a good one!
Never heard of the NEC GBM-70 and I can't seem to find any info on it either, are you sure that is the model number?ryu wrote:I got an old NEC GBM-70 (29" multisync) that doesn't show a picture anymore (turns on though). Last time I used it it worked when it was running warm.
Should I ask money for this or try to give it away for free? Normally the second option would be the clear answer, but considering how sought after these monitors were for a while I don't want to give away free money when it might just need a good servicing.
https://ifworlddesignguide.com/entry/16 ... tor-gbm-70kel wrote:
Never heard of the NEC GBM-70 and I can't seem to find any info on it either, are you sure that is the model number?
Dochartaigh, how's this tv treating you? i've been meaning to ask you but been binge playing on the 20m4u after fixing my convergence.Dochartaigh wrote:Thought I'd post my newest find, a 30" Panasonic professional multiformat widescreen monitor, the DT-M3050W. Not as high a TV Line count as a BVM-D32, but it actually has a tiny bit larger viewable area! Has something around 550-640 TV Lines depending on the source (kinda confusing on this one, just like the NEC XM29 is 500 or 600 depending on the type of input).
Full CV, YC, YPbPr, RGBS (probably RGsB too), and VGA (RGBHV) hookups in the back, and does 240p, 480i, 480p, 720p, and 1080i. Need to get the remote delivered to mess with the geometry a bit (want to tweak the very top a hair, 240p and 720p needs to be centered, and want to get the color just a tad less warm), but honestly extremely good for being from 1998. Guy said he got it from Panasonic in NJ before they moved to their new location.
What I'm most excited about is how it seems to be able to save SIXTEEN different geometry settings - that's full H and V centering AND centering (and a couple other settings too) - I'm hoping I can save a preset for all my consoles, and for the first time get EVERY one of them scaled and centered perfectly (otherwise you kinda have to setup your CRT to be OK with most consoles, but perfect with none).
Been playing 480p OG Xbox in widescreen on it all night, and playing around with Xbox 360 over VGA as well (720p looks pretty amazing so far). Going to probably use it mostly for the newer 6th-7th gen consoles with the widescreen games, but probably not much for 4:3 content since the huge PVM-3230 (a 4:3 monitor) is right next to it, but it'll probably see some light gun use at least (especially for PS2 system link games, and Dreamcast 31khz lightgun games).
More pics if anybody wants: https://imgur.com/a/cQHxofh
damn that's a badass displayDochartaigh wrote:Thought I'd post my newest find, a 30" Panasonic professional multiformat widescreen monitor, the DT-M3050W. Not as high a TV Line count as a BVM-D32, but it actually has a tiny bit larger viewable area! Has something around 550-640 TV Lines depending on the source (kinda confusing on this one, just like the NEC XM29 is 500 or 600 depending on the type of input).
Full CV, YC, YPbPr, RGBS (probably RGsB too), and VGA (RGBHV) hookups in the back, and does 240p, 480i, 480p, 720p, and 1080i. Need to get the remote delivered to mess with the geometry a bit (want to tweak the very top a hair, 240p and 720p needs to be centered, and want to get the color just a tad less warm), but honestly extremely good for being from 1998. Guy said he got it from Panasonic in NJ before they moved to their new location.
What I'm most excited about is how it seems to be able to save SIXTEEN different geometry settings - that's full H and V centering AND centering (and a couple other settings too) - I'm hoping I can save a preset for all my consoles, and for the first time get EVERY one of them scaled and centered perfectly (otherwise you kinda have to setup your CRT to be OK with most consoles, but perfect with none).
Been playing 480p OG Xbox in widescreen on it all night, and playing around with Xbox 360 over VGA as well (720p looks pretty amazing so far). Going to probably use it mostly for the newer 6th-7th gen consoles with the widescreen games, but probably not much for 4:3 content since the huge PVM-3230 (a 4:3 monitor) is right next to it, but it'll probably see some light gun use at least (especially for PS2 system link games, and Dreamcast 31khz lightgun games).
More pics if anybody wants: https://imgur.com/a/cQHxofh
It's been really good. Got the remote so I could properly center/scale 240p, 480p, 480p widescreen, and 720p as well. Needs a cap or two replaced to have perfect geometry but it's pretty decent as-is.davidwhangchoi wrote: Dochartaigh, how's this tv treating you? i've been meaning to ask you but been binge playing on the 20m4u after fixing my convergence.
Just the PVM-3230 has me jealous.
Tons of ex-broadcast equipment floating around Northern NJ. Quite a few of the refurb/resellers are on ebay and craigslist.FinalBaton wrote:I am also amazed by Dochartaigh's collection
Guessing he is living in a spot where there's lots of broadcast equipment companies (either NY / New Jersey or LA) and has actively been hunting for many years, going at least as far back as 2010.
Yeah can't count the number of government auctions featuring PVMs, I've seen taking place in NJ. It is just staggering.Sells for quite cheap too. I'd own dozens of PVMs if I lived thereNJRoadfan wrote:Tons of ex-broadcast equipment floating around Northern NJ. Quite a few of the refurb/resellers are on ebay and craigslist.
Yeah, the consumer-esque case I don't really care for, but I've been used to PVM and BVM's with lots of buttons on them so I'm a bit biased. Still can't beat a widescreen professional CRT with the same viewable area as a BVM-D32. 600 TV Lines, while nowhere near the sharpness of a BVM, is still a nice sweet spot between being able to do even 480i well (with a bit less flicker than sharper sets), and it still looks good for the HD stuff too.Xer Xian wrote:That Panasonic is really a chimera CRT - a 30" widescreen professional multisync monitor embedded into a consumer TV frame. One of a kind indeed.
Xer Xian wrote:Dochartaigh, the number and rarity of CRTs that are in your possession befuddles me. It's like you live in the world of Don Rosa's story Mythological Menagerie, where instead of mythological creatures, rare CRTs keep popping up
FinalBaton wrote:I am also amazed by Dochartaigh's collection
Guessing he is living in a spot where there's lots of broadcast equipment companies (either NY / New Jersey or LA) and has actively been hunting for many years, going at least as far back as 2010. Just that last part gives one a good leg up, it is so much harder to find pro crts now that the word is out. I really wish I knew about them say in 2010. I really wouldn't mind having a PVM-2950
Does the tint stay after the white flash as well? I'm curious now. Can't say I've seen it happen on mine (a barely used set). I think I remember a white screen flashing oncenakedarthur wrote:Hey all - quick question for you. I have a 25XBR, it's an awesome set in good condition. I've noticed a few times lately though when the screen goes very bright (ie. full white or very close), it will get a pinkish tint to it. It doesn't happen all the time, like for instance I pulled up 240p Test Suite with the white screen and it looked fine. Any clues as to whats causing this? Could the tube just be getting weak, something with power, or perhaps bad caps? Thanks!
oh man! so jelly =) i would so play ninja gaiden black and wii xenoblade on that.Dochartaigh wrote:It's been really good. Got the remote so I could properly center/scale 240p, 480p, 480p widescreen, and 720p as well. Needs a cap or two replaced to have perfect geometry but it's pretty decent as-is.davidwhangchoi wrote: Dochartaigh, how's this tv treating you? i've been meaning to ask you but been binge playing on the 20m4u after fixing my convergence.
The biggest detriment I'm having so far is the lack of widescreen content to actually play on it, since this is my first widescreen pro-CRT. Even after hex editing my OG Xbox files for widescreen, there was still quite a few which only play in 4:3. I haven't looked into Dreamcast yet, but I think that has a lot of non-widescreen games as well. PS2's 480p collection of games is pretty slim pickings to begin with, so I haven't seen if any of those rare 480p titles have a widescreen mode either. 720p 16:9 off my Xbox 360 over VGA is nice I will say. I still need to try Wii, and GameCube games played on the Wii some more.
Here you go:GeneraLight wrote:Amazing monitor, Dochartaigh. Can you message me those 16:9 edited XBox game patches?
It seems like if it happens, it will stay like that for as long as brightness persists, but if it goes darker then whites go back to normal white. Like between stages on Lightening force there is a white flash, I see it then but once the action starts everything looks fine. The reverse also seems to be true - if I pull up a white test screen and its ok, it will stay that way for as long as I have the patience to leave it. So it seems like it doesn't like the change from dark to bright more than anything.FinalBaton wrote:Does the tint stay after the white flash as well? I'm curious now. Can't say I've seen it happen on mine (a barely used set). I think I remember a white screen flashing oncenakedarthur wrote:Hey all - quick question for you. I have a 25XBR, it's an awesome set in good condition. I've noticed a few times lately though when the screen goes very bright (ie. full white or very close), it will get a pinkish tint to it. It doesn't happen all the time, like for instance I pulled up 240p Test Suite with the white screen and it looked fine. Any clues as to whats causing this? Could the tube just be getting weak, something with power, or perhaps bad caps? Thanks!
Depends on which PVM you've been using. If you've been using a 20L5 for example then there's really no way to get a bigger monitor that will have the same or more sharpness (unless you win the lottery with a D32). But if it's one of the older PVMs with a less TV lines then one of the bigger PVMs may be as sharp. If you're used to the sharpness of aperture grille then a larger NEC monitor with its shadow mask may not be right for you.Cannonballs wrote:Wasn’t sure what old CRT thread to bump but this seemed like a good one. I’ve had a 20” Sony PVM for a little while and it’s great, playing a lot of games and systems I’ve haven't touched for a decade or more. I’ve been doing everything SCART and then S-video for VHS/DVD stuff not in HD yet. I’m looking for a bigger monitor but still the best image quality and sharpness. I was looking at 29”-32” Sony PVMs and also some bigger 37” NEC monitors but have heard they aren’t as clear. Anyone with experience with some of the bigger monitors have some advice? Everything I’m playing is mostly 4:3 and NES through PSX/DC.
It’s a 20M2U and yeah I was reading up on it and the shadow mask stood out to me.fernan1234 wrote:Depends on which PVM you've been using. If you've been using a 20L5 for example then there's really no way to get a bigger monitor that will have the same or more sharpness (unless you win the lottery with a D32). But if it's one of the older PVMs with a less TV lines then one of the bigger PVMs may be as sharp. If you're used to the sharpness of aperture grille then a larger NEC monitor with its shadow mask may not be right for you.Cannonballs wrote:Wasn’t sure what old CRT thread to bump but this seemed like a good one. I’ve had a 20” Sony PVM for a little while and it’s great, playing a lot of games and systems I’ve haven't touched for a decade or more. I’ve been doing everything SCART and then S-video for VHS/DVD stuff not in HD yet. I’m looking for a bigger monitor but still the best image quality and sharpness. I was looking at 29”-32” Sony PVMs and also some bigger 37” NEC monitors but have heard they aren’t as clear. Anyone with experience with some of the bigger monitors have some advice? Everything I’m playing is mostly 4:3 and NES through PSX/DC.
The 29” and 32” PVMs would have near the same sharpness correct?fernan1234 wrote:Depends on which PVM you've been using. If you've been using a 20L5 for example then there's really no way to get a bigger monitor that will have the same or more sharpness (unless you win the lottery with a D32). But if it's one of the older PVMs with a less TV lines then one of the bigger PVMs may be as sharp. If you're used to the sharpness of aperture grille then a larger NEC monitor with its shadow mask may not be right for you.Cannonballs wrote:Wasn’t sure what old CRT thread to bump but this seemed like a good one. I’ve had a 20” Sony PVM for a little while and it’s great, playing a lot of games and systems I’ve haven't touched for a decade or more. I’ve been doing everything SCART and then S-video for VHS/DVD stuff not in HD yet. I’m looking for a bigger monitor but still the best image quality and sharpness. I was looking at 29”-32” Sony PVMs and also some bigger 37” NEC monitors but have heard they aren’t as clear. Anyone with experience with some of the bigger monitors have some advice? Everything I’m playing is mostly 4:3 and NES through PSX/DC.
No they wont. The BVM-D32e1wu has a significantly higher TV Line rating (1000 TV Lines) than the PVM-2950qm (600 TV Lines).Cannonballs wrote:The 29” and 32” PVMs would have near the same sharpness correct?
