"Best" PS2 model?

[Lawfer]

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Is there any hardmod that let's you hardwire 480p as the default resolution (rather than relying on GSM)?

A matrix chip can force 960i output. Here’s a video of gt4 intro, https://youtu.be/jtJRU019lrc[/quote][/quote]

Thank you, though my monitor can't do 960i (I didn't even knew that such a resolution was even a thing!)

[Einzelherz]

Guh, I loathe threads like these cause they make me go look at my systems and look, a 75001 and a 79001. Have they ever had issues with real discs OR burned backups? No. But my damn lizard brain is whispering 'they might not be the best revisions....'

I hate all of you right now

[svensonson]

Guh, I loathe threads like these cause they make me go look at my systems and look, a 75001 and a 79001. Have they ever had issues with real discs OR burned backups? No. But my damn lizard brain is whispering 'they might not be the best revisions....'

I hate all of you right now

exactly the same here now

[Einzelherz]

I likely won't go buy a replacement cause I've never been a min/maxer, but it is still grating. Now if there were differences like 2chip vs 1chip picture quality, or analog/digital rgb conversion N64s, that'd be one thing.

[nmalinoski]

How do TEST PS2s fit into this? Can we expect similar behavior from models with roughly-matching model numbers?

I have a DTL-H30301; would that roughly match my SCPH-39001 in terms of performance/reliability?

[citrus3000psi]

Thank you, though my monitor can't do 960i (I didn't even knew that such a resolution was even a thing!)

When I was getting ready to do it, I assumed it would be progressive 640x480, but nope it was an interlaced 640x960

[Xer Xian]

I'm all for style over substance for the PS2. The Automobile limited editions are certainly the "best-looking"



(Astral Blue uber alles)

[tongshadow]

Thank you, though my monitor can't do 960i (I didn't even knew that such a resolution was even a thing!)

When I was getting ready to do it, I assumed it would be progressive 640x480, but nope it was an interlaced 640x960

This is amazing. I have a DVDO VP30 upscaler, do you think it could recognize this resolution through Component cables? And yes, my Fat PS2 has the Matrix chip.
And in case it doesnt work, how to revert?

[citrus3000psi]

Thank you, though my monitor can't do 960i (I didn't even knew that such a resolution was even a thing!)

When I was getting ready to do it, I assumed it would be progressive 640x480, but nope it was an interlaced 640x960

This is amazing. I have a DVDO VP30 upscaler, do you think it could recognize this resolution through Component cables? And yes, my Fat PS2 has the Matrix chip.
And in case it doesnt work, how to revert?

I don't think it will work with Component. Pretty sure it only outputs RGsB be default. My console is modded with CSYNC out, so I was able to do RGBS. To revert you'd need to remember how to get back to the settings and change it blindly. (Shouldn't be too hard). Or go into recovery mode with the matrix chip.

BTW, it does poor job. It is just skipping every other line. Its not worth the time. 480i looks much better.

[rama]

Guh, I loathe threads like these cause they make me go look at my systems and look, a 75001 and a 79001. Have they ever had issues with real discs OR burned backups? No. But my damn lizard brain is whispering 'they might not be the best revisions....'

Sony resolved most IOP issues by the time of the 79xxx series. It's only really the 75xxx that's a little more problematic.

[thebeautifulones]

Guh, I loathe threads like these cause they make me go look at my systems and look, a 75001 and a 79001. Have they ever had issues with real discs OR burned backups? No. But my damn lizard brain is whispering 'they might not be the best revisions....'

I hate all of you right now

I'd easily go with the 79001 over any earlier Slim. The earlier ones seemingly had a ribbon cable (attached to the laser mech) that would eventually bend and make a circular gouge in discs. The orientation of the cable was changed and the problem seems to be fixed in the later slims, at least as of last time I researched it a couple of years ago.

Here's a link that might have some info: http://psx-scene.com/forums/f110/ps2-sl ... ce-155168/

[BazookaBen]

Thank you, though my monitor can't do 960i (I didn't even knew that such a resolution was even a thing!)

Have you actually tried it? It may not be listed for your monitor, but it may be able to display it anyway. I have a 1280x1024 flat panel that can display 960i.

And you don't need a matrix chip to do 960i, 960p, etc. Older versions of GSM have it available

[Lawfer]

The best fat ps2 goes to a V7 or 3900x.

Pros
Solid laser, i-link support, perfect software compatibility, hard drive support

Cons
Noisy, no built in IR sensor, large

The SCPH-3900x comes in V7 and V8 though and can have a motherboard that is either GH-017, GH-018. GH-019 or GH-022, any ideas if one if better than the other?

[citrus3000psi]

The best fat ps2 goes to a V7 or 3900x.

Pros
Solid laser, i-link support, perfect software compatibility, hard drive support

Cons
Noisy, no built in IR sensor, large

The SCPH-3900x comes in V7 and V8 though and can have a motherboard that is either GH-017, GH-018. GH-019 or GH-022, any ideas if one if better than the other?

I doubt it matters. I don't know the differences between those specific revisions. But if you have options, I'd grab a V8.

[Lawfer]

The best fat ps2 goes to a V7 or 3900x.

Pros
Solid laser, i-link support, perfect software compatibility, hard drive support

Cons
Noisy, no built in IR sensor, large

The SCPH-3900x comes in V7 and V8 though and can have a motherboard that is either GH-017, GH-018. GH-019 or GH-022, any ideas if one if better than the other?

I doubt it matters. I don't know the differences between those specific revisions. But if you have options, I'd grab a V8.

What are the upsides of getting a V8 over a V7? And how can you tell what is a V8 from a V7? I have found contradicting info online, like someone saying that a V8 is basically a GH-022 Motherboard + B100 Bios, but other website class a GH-019 + B90 as being a V8.

This is what someone posted on another forum:

A v7 will have motherboard legend GH17, or GH 18 or GH 19 or GH 22 and markings on the BIOS in the range B70 through B90.

The v8 will be model 39000 or 39006, GH 022 and BIOS marking B100.

"00" is the region code for Japan and "06" is the region code for South-East Asia.

For NTSC U/C it's "01" and for PAL it's "02", "03" and "04".

Again not sure if this is true as I found contradicting infos online.

So what constitutes a "V8"? And do NTSC U/C V8s exist?

[RocketBelt]

Probably at the point of splitting hairs.
The best fat PS2 is the one with the cleanest case and best availability of spare parts.

[Blodia]

Fat ps2 for sure. The hard drive is a definite bonus, plus I tend to find the fat PS2's to be more readily available, not to mention cheaper.

[Bassa-Bassa]

Two questions regarding SCPH-7000x in case anyone knows for sure as googling about this is way too colorful for my eyes:

1 Has it been found any PS1 game (disregarding regional stuff) which doesn't run properly (as it'd do with a PS1) with this model (the only slim one with the actual PS1 CPU)?

2 Is it true that some SCPH-7000x don't have a buggy mechacon (which would lead to killing the laser)? Can they be indentified somehow?

Thks.

[ZellSF]

1) https://web.archive.org/web/20221128151 ... yStation_2

There's lots of games that have issues on all PS2 models. That list is even incomplete (Gradius Gaiden has issues on some PS2 systems).

2) This thing? https://github.com/MechaResearch/MechaP ... /PICfix.md

If so it's fairly extensively documented on that page. Some SCPH-7000x units do not have that bug.


Also not answering your questions, but really get a fat PS2, HDD loading is so good.

[Bassa-Bassa]

Thank you very much. I guess you only can know the mechacon version by running an app. A shame there's not a complete compatibility list/project in 2024. Too bad about Gaiden.

I have at least three slims around and too many originals to count, HDD loading sounds good, but not sure it's worth it for me.