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 Post subject: Re: Shmup Related Questions That Don't Deserve a Thread
PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:11 am 


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I need to know the top 2 games out of the following Steam STG list:


Blue Revolver
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Blue Revolver and CC:WI are the safer choices and I would recommend those.
That said, Graze Counter is also very fun IMO. It has a very enjoyable dynamic between its grazing and its hypering, so you end up grazing bullets whenever you can to charge up hypers that you use to cancel bullets and deal as much damage as possible. The flexibility between the two hypers makes the system pretty fluid and forgiving.
On top of that, it has a good amount of content, with its few bonus modes and multiple difficulty levels. Clearing it on the default mode and difficulty isn't too difficult, but it gets tricky after that and the scoring adds yet another layer on top of it.
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 Post subject: Re: Shmup Related Questions That Don't Deserve a Thread
PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:24 pm 


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I would second (third?) the recommendation of CCWI and Blue Revolver. Those games all have their fans and you're likely to enjoy any of them, but I think those two are the safest choice, and my personal favorites.
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What are the choices for saving Limi in Giga Wing 2’s ending?


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I've never played the Zeal games, they're on sale right now and I wanna try one out. Which one should I get? XIIZEAL, Trizeal, ExZeal and Delta Zeal are on sale.


Trizeal and DeltaZeal are the most straightforward of Triangle Service's games, so probably the best starting point. Similar weapon and medal scoring systems, though I'd say DeltaZeal edges it - it has branching routes through the stages vary based on how you handle certain enemy waves, plus a/b variants of some stages determined when you take down a boss. Also the sprite work is easier on the eye than Trizeal's low-detail polygons. XIIZeal offers up similar in-stage variation to DeltaZeal but is focused around a single weapon mechanic - whereas both Trizeal and DeltaZeal give you a great mix-and-match weapon system

ExZeal is weird, probably the worst as a starter. While it does have a choice of ships that play very differently, there are some odd stages - previously mentioned box maze and escape stages, while the final stage is a lengthy memoriser that's a bit of a slog. It's not bad, it's just very different to the others.


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In Ginga Force, you fight Natsuki late in the game as a boss. And I think you kill her. So is Natsuki Chronicle really going to be a prequel?


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xxx1993 wrote:
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Here is how to use spoiler tags in a way that obscures plot details, while leaving the question visible to those who may have the answers you seek.

1) In Giga Wing 2’s ending,
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what are the choices for saving Limi?


2) In Ginga Force,
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you fight Natsuki late in the game as a boss. And I think you kill her. So is Natsuki Chronicle really going to be a prequel?


I don't know the answer to either. :[
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I want someone who knows to give me answers, please.


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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 1:12 pm 


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xxx1993 wrote:
I want someone who knows to give me answers, please.


Helps if you ask a question about a game that has actually been released, your guess is as good as anyones....


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Is there a page online or a thread here that gives a comprehensive overview of every scoring aspect in Blazing Star?


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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 7:59 pm 


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1) In Giga Wing 2’s ending,
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what are the choices for saving Limi?




I am not 100% sure, as iI played it in Japanese, but since nobody has answered this, i think it's
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the first option when you get to choose an option during the ending cutscenes that allows you to save Limi
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For Kart,
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I already know the choice to save Limi is when Kart says, "But..."


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 Post subject: Re: Shmup Related Questions That Don't Deserve a Thread
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For Kart,
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I already know the choice to save Limi is when Kart says, "But..."

I don't really think there's much difference between characters. Pretty sure it's the same for everyone, though the actual words might be different.
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Can anyone tell me if the PC port of Raiden III is inferior or superior to the PS2 release? There are mixed things I hear about resolution and controller support for the PC release, which make me wonder if playing it on the PS2 might be the better choice.
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Now what about Ginga Force?
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Do you really kill Natsuki?


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Well, you do fight her as a boss... What happens when you defeat her, though?


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 Post subject: Re: Shmup Related Questions That Don't Deserve a Thread
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xxx1993 wrote:
Well, you do fight her as a boss... What happens when you defeat her, though?


Her ship slows down and drifts offscreen. You don't see it blow up, or even catch fire, and the characters don't act like she died.

I don't think bosses actually die in Ginga Force. Most of the criminal bosses you defeated earlier come back to help you at the end of the game.
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The main villain, Viridian, definitely dies, though. His ship explodes and you hear him scream.


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Man I didn't realize there were so many layers to Ginga Force. Color me amazed.
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That's as far as I recall, right? It does look like Viridian is the only character to kick the bucket out of all the others. Unless there's a mentioning that he got arrested after the destruction of his fighter.


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xxx1993 wrote:
The main villain, Viridian, definitely dies, though. His ship explodes and you hear him scream.


He's not Racer X/Masked Racer? ;)


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If I recall correctly the villain's name is Viridian.


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Wich es the best version of Raiden Fighters Ace on XBOX 360 USA or JPN?


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Both are basically identical, as far as I know.
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Trying to play Soukyugurentai Otokuyo... Why is there no music when I start playing, only sound effects of my ship firing and explosions?


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Wich es the best version of Raiden Fighters Ace on XBOX 360 USA or JPN?

As Keres says they're pretty much identical in the ways that count, but two notable differences do come to mind: the Japanese release came with a replay DVD, but also had some issues upon release which were later fixed with a patch, while the US version has the patch on the disc. Some folks also make a big deal about the cheesy lazers 'shopped onto the US box art, but I'll leave that one alone, heh.
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Yeah but most annoyingly the US one won't play on a JP 360 ... and of course JP Aces is overpriced.
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There a creditless, full screen pic of the good and bad endings of Sexy Parodius anywhere?


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There a creditless, full screen pic of the good and bad endings of Sexy Parodius anywhere?


You can rip the backgrounds and sprites through graphic check in dipswitch. But I don't know how this works.
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