Gamecube and component

Neon · Post by **Neon** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 4:47 pm

Do I really have to find an older gamecube and buy an expensive assed cable to use component with this console? Not looking to play in HD.

Post by **Dave_K.** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 4:55 pm

Neon wrote:Do I really have to find an older gamecube and buy an expensive assed cable to use component with this console? Not looking to play in HD.

Shouldn't be a problem finding a used one at a local games store that has the digital connector. BTW: if you are not looking to play in HD, then why do you want the component cable?

thchardcore · Post by **thchardcore** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:55 pm

Because component was once used outside of HD and not everyone likes S-video or composite. Derr.

oxtsu · Post by **oxtsu** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:31 pm

One reason for the cable's higher price is that it uses a proprietary D/A converter chip inside, which is not sold to third-party cable makers (shown here). So yeah, bite the bullet my friend.

Neon · Post by **Neon** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:21 am

Hmm, might just go with S video then. I wonder about RGB as well...the 1084 can do 640x480, yes? No idea how to get it into that mode but it'd be the proper res. for Mr. Driller I'd think.

oxtsu · Post by **oxtsu** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:23 am

The GC component cable can be modded for 15+31k RGB, yeah.

PC Engine Fan X! · Post by **PC Engine Fan X!** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:31 am

Now if I were to get a plain vanilla Nintendo Gamecube Component Video Cable, can it be modded to output to a 21-pin Japanese RGB Cable (besides the usual 15 kHz to 31 kHz mod job)?

And is it possible to have just one Gamecube Component Video cable that can output three different ways on on just one cable (meaning outputs in progessive scan + 31 kHz PC output mod & 15 kHz mod to output in Japanese RGB output mode)?

Or would I have to have a seperate GCN Component Cable seperately modded do each of the above listed outputs seperately?

I do have a 3rd-party Innovation Gamecube VGA Adapter but it only converts analog S-Video to VGA...it doesn't look as sharp as if one were to use a modded GCN Component Video to output in true 31 kHz VGA signal support.

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

iatneH · Post by **iatneH** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:34 am

I think there is also an official Japanese D-terminal cable for GameCube, I don't know if this is what you're looking for PCEFanX..

PC Engine Fan X! · Post by **PC Engine Fan X!** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:52 am

iatneH wrote:I think there is also an official Japanese D-terminal cable for GameCube, I don't know if this is what you're looking for PCEFanX..

Thanks for heads up on the official Nintendo D-Terminal cable...yes, I do know about that particular cable but I would have to get an XRGB-2+ to take advantage of that cable setup.

I already have the XRGB-2 with the 21-pin RGB input so that is plenty enough for me as it is.

I do recall on the Japanese website by the name of "RGB Hospice" showing a modded GCN component cable that outputs in 21-pin Japanese RGB...so yes, it can be done.

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

matt · Post by **matt** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 8:32 am

PC Engine Fan X! wrote:And is it possible to have just one Gamecube Component Video cable that can output three different ways on on just one cable (meaning outputs in progessive scan + 31 kHz PC output mod & 15 kHz mod to output in Japanese RGB output mode)?

Yes, you can do that. All that the Gamecube component/VGA cable mod does is make the DAC chip output RGB instead of component. The same cable is used for both 15khz RGB and 31khz VGA.

Neon · Post by **Neon** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 11:42 am

Thanks for the responses. I think I'll go with one of those scummy VGA boxes...should look decent enough for gov't work.

matt · Post by **matt** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 7:32 pm

Why? Just get an S-Video cable. It'll cost less and look better.

The component cables are only $30 from Nintendo...

Neon · Post by **Neon** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 5:59 pm

Would it really? Mr. Driller is 640x480 I think.

matt · Post by **matt** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 3:41 am

You're probably right, but the high-rez mode only works if you have a component cable. The cheapo VGA boxes just use composite so you'd get a crappy version of what the game would look like on a TV.

Neon · Post by **Neon** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 4:57 am

Oh, boo. Thanks for the headsup.

SAM · Post by **SAM** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 7:51 am

matt wrote:
PC Engine Fan X! wrote:And is it possible to have just one Gamecube Component Video cable that can output three different ways on on just one cable (meaning outputs in progessive scan + 31 kHz PC output mod & 15 kHz mod to output in Japanese RGB output mode)?
Yes, you can do that. All that the Gamecube component/VGA cable mod does is make the DAC chip output RGB instead of component. The same cable is used for both 15khz RGB and 31khz VGA.

Any info of this mod? I need to make a 15khz RGB cable for my GameCube.

antron · Post by **antron** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 4:00 pm

http://gamesx.com/wiki/doku.php?id=av:nintendodigitalav

neorichieb1971 · Post by **neorichieb1971** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:16 am

Nintendo will sell you a component video enabled Gamecube from their website. They just took them off the shelves because less than 3% of users bought component video cables.

extrarice · Post by **extrarice** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 12:20 am

Sorry to resurrect an old thread. Has anyone tried using the Japanese component cable (not D-terminal cable) on a US cube? The Japanese Cube component cables on Yahoo! Japan auctions are much cheaper than ebay.

PC Engine Fan X! · Post by **PC Engine Fan X!** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 5:29 am

For extrarice,

I've only got a modded Japanese Gamecube D-Terminal cable that outputs in 31 kHz VGA signal. (Of course, the Gamecube Component Video cable can do the same thing as the former.) You'd have to use the original Gamecube A/V cable to get audio as the D-Terminal only outputs the "graphics" portion and not the audio portion. A Gamecube can be modded to output in 'Digital Optical' format but requires a little bit of hacking to get it to work. The Panasonic Q console already has this latter audio option built-in from the get go. ^_~

The only problem is that one can't see the Gamecube start-up screen or access the Gamecube memory card manager...would have to use the regular A/V cable to get visuals that way...the Gamecube is smart enough to detect when it's hooked up to a 31 kHz or 15 kHz monitor setup so it can output in progressive scan mode.

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

neorichieb1971 · Post by **neorichieb1971** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 1:59 am

extrarice wrote:Sorry to resurrect an old thread. Has anyone tried using the Japanese component cable (not D-terminal cable) on a US cube? The Japanese Cube component cables on Yahoo! Japan auctions are much cheaper than ebay.

I have used JP component cables on a US cube and it works perfectly. Any reason why it wouldn't?

The only difference between a JP cube and a US one is 2 or 3 different pins are connected for region compatibility. The rest of the machine is identical in every way. Well, internally.

extrarice · Post by **extrarice** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 3:47 pm

Thanks, gang! Just wanted to see if anyone else has had any luck before I bid (plus pay markup and shipping across the pond). I thought the US and JP Cube ports would be the same, but you never know...

neorichieb1971 · Post by **neorichieb1971** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 4:32 am

The Euro Cube is a little different, but JP and US cubes are practically the same.

You can get component video cables from Nintendo's website. Just call the 1-800 number on the website and follow the prompts to get to their online support or store and ask for it.

I've bought a few for friends and such.

extrarice · Post by **extrarice** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 4:51 pm

neorichieb1971 wrote:The Euro Cube is a little different, but JP and US cubes are practically the same.

You can get component video cables from Nintendo's website. Just call the 1-800 number on the website and follow the prompts to get to their online support or store and ask for it.

I've bought a few for friends and such.

From what I've seen on N's website, the cable has been discontinued and is no longer available from Nintendo.

grahf · Post by **grahf** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 11:46 pm

I dont know about europe, but if you live in the US you can just send the camecube back to nintendo. They will replace it with a refurbished unit with the digital port for free. Just call them on the phone, they are super helpful. I hear that nintendo of europe is a joke though...

And if you have HD display capabilities, then the component cable is WELLLL worth it. At standard resolution on a small tv its not too much different thatn s-video, but progressive scan mode is night and day. Its an incredible picture.

extrarice · Post by **extrarice** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:31 pm

grahf wrote:I dont know about europe, but if you live in the US you can just send the camecube back to nintendo. They will replace it with a refurbished unit with the digital port for free. Just call them on the phone, they are super helpful. I hear that nintendo of europe is a joke though...

And if you have HD display capabilities, then the component cable is WELLLL worth it. At standard resolution on a small tv its not too much different thatn s-video, but progressive scan mode is night and day. Its an incredible picture.

Yeah, I have one of the early Cubes (black Zelda history budle) with digital out, so I just need the cable. I'm looking forward to progressive scan mode

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