Under Defeat (old thread)

Guardians Knight · Post by **Guardians Knight** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 7:18 pm

the control method that means you stay in the same angle or if you release fire you move back to central position, it is a big difference

rtw · Post by **rtw** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 7:29 pm

Guardians Knight wrote:the control method that means you stay in the same angle or if you release fire you move back to central position, it is a big difference

Is this selectable in the option menu ? What is the default ?

rtw

Kiken · Post by **Kiken** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 7:59 pm

rtw wrote:
Guardians Knight wrote:the control method that means you stay in the same angle or if you release fire you move back to central position, it is a big difference
Is this selectable in the option menu ? What is the default ?

rtw

The default setting always centers your copter when you aren't firing and aren't moving either left or right.

And I think a better question is: Is this control option selectable in the Arcade? After all, in many Metal Slug high score forums, I've seen Vulcan Fix banned as it is not available on default MVS settings.

rtw · Post by **rtw** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:23 pm

Kiken wrote:The default setting always centers your copter when you aren't firing and aren't moving either left or right.

And I think a better question is: Is this control option selectable in the Arcade? After all, in many Metal Slug high score forums, I've seen Vulcan Fix banned as it is not available on default MVS settings.

I'm feeling slightly silly. I've tried both settings but I can't feel the
difference. If I move my chopper left and let go, it returns to a
position where the bullet stream is parallell to one of the sides. On
page 13 of the manual it says Control Rotation but since I cannot
read Japanese I don't understand the Kanjii there.

If someone could elaborate I would be most grateful!

And yes I agree that we have to determine if this is selectable in the arcade.

rtw

Daigoro · Post by **Daigoro** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:43 am

so, this option is selected in the option menu?

i havent figured out how to select it yet...

Neon · Post by **Neon** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:42 am

Neon 1,071,990 1-4 Normal

Neon · Post by **Neon** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:54 am

Neon 1.159.140 1-4 Normal

This is with one stupid 3-bombs-remaining death too. Man I rule

Guardians Knight · Post by **Guardians Knight** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:19 pm

im sorry please ignore me i am talking poop. I think i've confused the screen which explains the controls with different settings because if you push right you get another screen - since it was all in japanese i just assumed it was another control method.

My bad sorry guys

oh and btw i dont recommend playing this game when pissed as it becomes ultra frustrating...

Daigoro · Post by **Daigoro** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:25 pm

Guardians Knight wrote:im sorry please ignore me i am talking poop. I think i've confused the screen which explains the controls with different settings because if you push right you get another screen - since it was all in japanese i just assumed it was another control method.

ah ok. i thought that was what you were talking about (i thought that the tutorial was selectable controll schemes too at first), but then Kiken came in and seemed to back up the story.

no prob. at least we got that figured out.

and yeah, i find most shmups very frustrating unless im relaxed and in the mood to die alot.

dmauro · Post by **dmauro** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:25 pm

I've got the game, but my Dreamcast isn't here yet. I'm pretty excited though, I tate'd my large 29" tv yesterday to make sure it could handle it for when my Dreamcast does arrive. Is the difference in difficulty (due to less slowdown) from yoko to tate enough to warrant noting it on scores?

mulletgeezer · Post by **mulletgeezer** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:28 pm

mulletgeezer - 1,847,000 - 1-5 - normal

Neon · Post by **Neon** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 1:45 am

1,203,100 1-4 Normal

Kiken · Post by **Kiken** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 3:36 am

Daigoro wrote:ah ok. i thought that was what you were talking about (i thought that the tutorial was selectable controll schemes too at first), but then Kiken came in and seemed to back up the story.

Perhaps that's my fault for not thoroughly going through the options (I normally just check button layout).

Kiel · Post by **Kiel** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:02 am

Kiel - 967,820 - 1-4 - reverse

Neon · Post by **Neon** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:04 am

Phew!

Neon - 1,618,130 1-5 Normal

Sorry for the frequent updates, I'm without a DC memory card for awhile so it's more of a personal reference

I'll edit from now on.

Guardians Knight · Post by **Guardians Knight** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 6:16 pm

try a paper and pen mate...

any chance of an update sometime?

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:49 pm

Yip! I'm back, and table is updated.

Re: control setup

The arcade version only allows control method 1 (auto-recentering) - the other control setup is banned from the table.

Re: screen mode

Does anybody have specific examples of slowdown that is lacking in yoko?

Re: Guardians Knight's score

Got a stage?

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:11 pm

Twiddle - 965,140 - 1-4 - Reverse

Notice: Bombing makes the game rank down!

dial911 · Post by **dial911** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:08 pm

Dial911 1,154,100 1-4 Reverse

Just got the game today! Caught on really fast after the fourth time. I try to take apart the bosses with the option only; it's crazy effective.

Guardians Knight · Post by **Guardians Knight** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:28 pm

yes 1-3, sorry old boy

Notice: Bombing makes the game rank down!

you also lose nearly all the points for the stuff you just bombed - it's a nasty little trade off

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:49 am

Guardians Knight wrote:yes 1-3, sorry old boy

Notice: Bombing makes the game rank down!
you also lose nearly all the points for the stuff you just bombed - it's a nasty little trade off

In a game with no extends I don't really mind

Nullsleep · Post by **Nullsleep** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 6:03 am

Nullsleep - 943,290 - 1-3 - Reverse

Kiel · Post by **Kiel** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 4:46 pm

Kiel - 1,276,700 - 1-4 - Reverse

Kiken · Post by **Kiken** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 5:51 pm

CIT wrote:Does anybody have specific examples of slowdown that is lacking in yoko?

Other way round. Apparently, Yoko has more slowdown than Tate.

DC906270 · Post by **DC906270** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 1:23 pm

DC906270 - 846,000 - 1-4??? - Normal

Cant remember if i got to st 1-4 on this run, had a couple of runs in a row?? i think i did tho

it290 · Post by **it290** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 11:26 pm

it290 - 1,099,670 - 1-4 - Normal

Man, this game is killing me. It's addictive as all hell, but the difficulty curve is a bitch. I end up breezing through the first two stages, and then the third tends to take me out with surgical precision. I wasn't too satisfied with this run (especially the last part), but I hit 1m, which was my goal for the day, and also got to 1-4 for the first time, where I flailed about like a fish out of water and died halfway through the stage. I'm starting to hate those sniper helicopters, though. Anyway, hopefully I can improve my consistency in this game, as I'm really all over the place.

Trevor spencer · Post by **Trevor spencer** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 7:38 pm

Trevor spencer 1001650 1-4 normal

Kiel · Post by **Kiel** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 11:08 pm

I'm sneaking up the list.

With a stupid death on stage 2...

Kiel - 1,352,700 - 1-4 - Reverse

Y^nO · Post by **Y^nO** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:05 am

Hello all, i'm from belgium and i'm a shmup player

Y^nO - 1 368 940 Pts 1-4 normal

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 1:34 pm

Updated

Are people playing on easy and hard as well? If so I will add tables for these modes.