Bananamatic wrote:it's an old ass game from 90s and its selling point is 100% the gameplay, what else is there to want if it plays and runs well? what's the point of 15hz or downscaling or whatever? does it make it control better or is it just for "authenticity" and worth spending thousands of dollars on?
Sorry for liking excellent pixel art and know it looks its best on a low res crt, you may not know what it's like, well too bad for you, probably influenced your shit taste.
You're the type of sperg who only cares about score, right, good for you, but you're not the only player in this world (thankfully).
Lag is also annoying though not with every emulated game but still important. Go try and say you don't care.
Bananamatic wrote:the past doesn't matter anymore, the present does
Ignoring it and making stupid statements against things you deliberately choose to ignore don't make you sound smart, just ignorant.
Bananamatic wrote:the games are more available than ever yet the prices went up several times so it's pretty safe to assume the price has nothing to do with gameplay but with the whole "arcade" and "retro" fetishism.
Today yes. But your idiotic insistance on ignoring what I've told you about how it was before you came into the hobby apparently disables your capacity to understand that it's wasn't always the case. And many of us were there at that time, for you it didn't happen? We're all rich fetishists because today is today period? Duh.
Bananamatic wrote:and you "good old days" people barely play the games
Yeah right maybe we got enough of most of those before you because of that thing called 'time' you don't know about. I've played shmups like any other game since I was a kid in the 80's, really got bit by the bug after the 32bit era and increasingly from I think about 99 to 2010 or so I think where I had much less time for it, not the only one here. just life. Got my fill even though I still enjoy playing more casually and tinker with hardware. So what? Do we all have to be sportsmen like you and forever if we dare still thouch shmups? you too will get older and more casual, sooner than you expect.
Bananamatic wrote:just jerk over back when where nothing was available
Are you doing this on purpose or you really can't read? It was, just not as well on pc-only, so we still bought pcbs and so but that didn't mean spending nearly as much money as today.
Bananamatic wrote:(except there were plenty of good games if you stopped blindly shitting on touhou which was actually pretty damn good back then)
Bitch what are you on I freaking never shat on Touhou games, don't know anyone here who actually did, and I've played them before you fucking dumbass, especially enjoyed Scarlet Devil and PCB.
Most of us just just hate how fucking anal and obnoxious Touhou fans are, that's all. Surprise! they happen to be among the youngest. Time is unfair to the young in its own way.
Bananamatic wrote:and insist on keeping it that way
people don't like to play the games? here's an idea, make them more exclusive and increase the price 50 times because it's "arcade"
WFT?
Just because there'll be a number of games we may not play in the arcades again doesn't meant that at all, those who got the cash will buy them now but again the arcades side will stimulate consoles+pc and necessarily doujin makers too.
And the arcade originals will obviously come to be ported and/or emulated one day, you know it, maybe it'll be in many years, so what? do you have no patience at all?
And is there anything you would like to own now anyway? No, not yet, so why do you complain?
You haven't experienced the time when there was an alchemy between all mediums of production, obviously you don't realize that, and yes even the doujin scene was more active and heavily inspired by the arcades too but you don't fucking realize that either.
Bananamatic wrote:while cave was busy rotting, we got crimzon clover, astebreed, blue revolver, battle traverse and soon rolling gunner (and danmaku unlimited 2/3 to some extent), doujin shmups are doing better than ever with arcades dying
Lol that's all you know about? because you were there at that time to see it? I mean the doujin scene literally waited for your generation to be discovered! yeah really! And that's the highest and best production output ever! bwahahah.
Bananamatic wrote:face it, arcades are irrelevant, old, overpriced, inaccessible and busted, fighters long left arcades behind, street fighter V is doing just fine without arcades
even rhythm games mostly moved on and are about the gameplay despite staying mostly in arcade
Right, in terms of business model it's really hard to believe it'll work anew. There's only a hope for new little development impulse with the rules of making arcade products that might happen.
the arcade model influences the design decisions of the devs who design them, that's what makes the touch and history of it all where it started.
the problem of the exclusively amateur and independent scene is that it sure experiments on its own and that's very good, but some of the basics and spirit are gone, or forgotten little by little. if production on EXA gets real with new and high-value production stuff going back to some basics won't hurt the genre.
Bananamatic wrote:only this irrelevant genre is still all about the 15hz (the fuck does this even mean?), scanlines, "true low res" (it's 2018), pcbs, downscaling (why?)
Because you don't pay attention and don't read why you think you have a point?
Again you may haven't know how good-looking many old games look displayd in their true nature, that's your problem being ignorant, not ours.
using a 15khz setup is for that purpose.
For newer games that are high-res some people want to downscale to use in their cabs because they don't have a 31khz compatible or LCD in it, that's all, you're the only idiot seeing fetishism. Most will likely play on a HDTV or monitor and have no problem with it.
Bananamatic wrote:paying ridiculous prices for a single game and wanting this to continue
Again no, we want shmups to continue being produced, including some coming from the arcades, even if that means using some patience like before or just going for different versions on other platforms.
Bananamatic wrote:if you want to complain about elitism in the genre, you have it right here
no mainstream gamers give a shit about all this, they like to play games, not wank to them (unless it's anime waifu stuff)
You're among those I've seen shit the most on what other shmuppers play or not, like or not, do or not, etc. who's an elitist?
You can't be
this dumb.
Bananamatic wrote:do you honestly think shmups will become less niche with another worthless japan only arcade platform that is basically a pc artificially creating exclusive games by refusing to port it to sane platforms and encouraging people to spend thousands on it?
Shou is trying to start a business, no even revive a market, because he knows and and remembers its specifics and strenghts and uniqueness, you know; those things you don't know and shit on. the selection looks poor now but as he says let's be patient, I fully support his venture as I would support all people who try to do things for the game genre I've liked the most in my life.
Bananamatic wrote:this shit will bomb hard
Says the guy who plays the shit of arcade games again, but contradiction is part of your trade, and many of your generation apparently, you're just an ignorant sperg behaving like a know-it-all teenager with too much misplaced pride.
You can boast about your level with the select games you play very well, and that's good congratulations, but about the rest you should really shut your stupid-ass trap, serioulsy you only sound like a douchebag, nothing else, not someone who actually ever had a passion for the genre or cared about it much.
I think your thing is to score score score whatever the game genre and have people watch you replay and retweet your performance, alright everyone enjoys stuff his own way, but why the fuck would everyone need to be as limited in scope, interest, knowledge, taste etc as you?