New Super Mario Bros.

sethsez · Post by **sethsez** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 12:36 am

99pence wrote:
sethsez wrote:
99pence wrote: And that is utterly ridiculous. Why are portable games awesome but 2D console games are dirty retro dated old skool.
How does that have anything at all to do with New Super Mario Bros?
Are you kidding? Cos they wouldn't dare release it on a console but 2D's 'ok/not lame retro, unoriginal, old skool' on a portable.

Oh, and here I thought you were using an unrelated topic to launch into a discussion of your personal pet peeve via an extremely tenuous link. MY MISTAKE.

Keranu · Post by **Keranu** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 6:29 am

Quit being so concerned with the damn graphics! I've read a interview with the creator of the game and it really sounds amazing and it should be focusing in the style of the first Super Mario Bros. game a lot and it won't have that damn Yoshi character! The gameplay elements sound so awesome.

sethsez · Post by **sethsez** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 7:05 am

Agreed. The videos I've seen make the game look very fun, and it's nice to see a Mario game cutting out most of the bullshit that's accumulated over the years (and yes, that includes Yoshi).

zaphod · Post by **zaphod** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 7:44 am

If you think super mario bros is easy try the actual arcade version. or lost levels.

It's simple enough when you learn it but so is every super mario game. EVERY one. they are all at heart memorizers. They are GOOD memorizers too, as they do not throw cheap deaths at you.

JBC · Post by **JBC** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 11:28 am

Now that i think about it Yoshi's Story was the game that really made me fall out of the Mario series...

I was iffy about the feel of Mario 64 and when i learned about Yoshi's Story i got really really excited. But then i played it and was so let down...

Now that that's long over though i should give it another shot...

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 12:06 pm

Keranu wrote:Quit being so concerned with the damn graphics!

I've said time and time again it will be fun. Fun as shit... it will just look like it too. O_o

99pence · Post by **99pence** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 12:06 pm

sethsez wrote:
99pence wrote:
sethsez wrote: How does that have anything at all to do with New Super Mario Bros?
Are you kidding? Cos they wouldn't dare release it on a console but 2D's 'ok/not lame retro, unoriginal, old skool' on a portable.
Oh, and here I thought you were using an unrelated topic to launch into a discussion of your personal pet peeve via an extremely tenuous link. MY MISTAKE.

How much do you love arguing. It's 'the latest 2D mario' it's a big deal. I can say I don't like the way it looks or it's console of choice and why if I want. Thats the topic. What's the problem. How about this pointless arguement which is your pet peeve.

JBC · Post by **JBC** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 12:39 pm

Ok that's the end of that. This thread is about Mario and old games we want real updates too that instead we got shite updates too. I am hereby ending any arguing between seth and 99pence in this thread. You can carry the rest out in PM's if you want.

BrianC · Post by **BrianC** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 1:42 pm

GaijinPunch wrote:
Keranu wrote:Quit being so concerned with the damn graphics!
I've said time and time again it will be fun. Fun as shit... it will just look like it too. O_o

Personally, I don't think the game looks bad at all. It looks better than many N64 games. Have you seen the videos of the game? The animation is very fluid. The game has multiple layers of parallax and runs quite smoothly, telling from videos too.

I also think Mario Kart DS looks pretty darn good. The game runs quite smoothly and actually looks better than the N64 one in some aspects. One neat thing is how all of the characters are polygonal and not sprites like the N64 game.

I'm not expecting console or PS2 style graphics from the DS, but I think the games are better looking than N64 or even some PS1 games in some reguards. Even though the DS doesn't have the best 3D graphics out there, I don't mind companies making 3D games for the DS, especially when some good ones like Mario Kart and Pac 'n Roll come out.

Metriod Prime Hunters looks pretty darn impressive for DS considering all the texture work in it. It's not quite console quality, but that's not what I expect. Personally, I don't think a game has to have the most recent 3D graphics to look good.

Edit: I did not mean PS2, I meant N64. Fixed.

silvergunner · Post by **silvergunner** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 2:08 pm

A dream comes true.I can`t wait for playing NewSMB ^^
I hope it`s good like SMB 3-the best 2D Jump`n Run all time!!!

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 2:08 pm

GaijinPunch wrote:

Sounds like you're in need of some new glasses.
Hardly. The DS is very underwhelming in the 3D department.

I tend agree on the underwhelming in the 3D department mostly (though have you seen the trailer of the DS Zelda? - really nice imo), but only for games where the game itself is played in 3D too and depending on it. The use of poly's here looks pretty sweet too me.

Either way I am much more interested in the feel of the controls. I certainly hope the get that right as for me it's the most important part of the game.

sethsez · Post by **sethsez** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 7:09 pm

99pence wrote:How much do you love arguing. It's 'the latest 2D mario' it's a big deal. I can say I don't like the way it looks or it's console of choice and why if I want. Thats the topic. What's the problem. How about this pointless arguement which is your pet peeve.

The topic is "New Super Mario Bros," not "the state of 2D on consoles." I can understand the confusion since it's just a couple different letters.

ANYWAY.

I think the game looks pretty good. The latest videos look like the the style has come together, and things like the big Mario wouldn't really work as well with traditional sprites.

Moogs · Post by **Moogs** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 10:02 pm

sethsez wrote:and things like the big Mario wouldn't really work as well with traditional sprites.

Tell that to Bonk 3!!!

sethsez · Post by **sethsez** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 10:31 pm

Bonk 3, the big Mario in NSMB wouldn't work as well with traditional sprites!

Blade · Post by **Blade** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 10:32 pm

Here's a no-brainer...in the original Super Mario Bros. Mario looked ugly as sin. Yet it is still a beloved game. Why don't you people grow out of that absolute demand for perfect graphics and realize that good graphics do NOT make good games. Gameplay does!

I'm really tired of this age-old argument. I can understand someone wanting to see a game that has good graphics in the best progressive mode out there just to enjoy a game to its fullest. And I can understand someone disappointed that a port of a specific game's graphics aren't on par with the original...BUT LIGHTEN UP PEOPLE, this is NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. for Nintendo DS, Nintendo DS is not the end-all be-all of portable gaming, and neither is the PSP for that matter. If NSMB ends up getting a port to Gamecube I would play it, and I would LIKE it, because for the first time in many years Mario has come back to his ROOTs...can't you people just lay off the whining for a while...just shut up and enjoy the game? Please?

99pence · Post by **99pence** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 10:43 pm

Everyones going off the hook.

I wonder what the word on the street is about this game.

JBC · Post by **JBC** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 10:47 pm

I really don't understand why people think the graphics are bad. This is the only place i've even read that come up in a discussion about the game. I'm looking at the screenshots and watching the videos and guys... the graphics are just fine. As a matter of fact i think that they kick ass for a Mario game on the DS. The game looks beautiful...

sethsez · Post by **sethsez** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 11:11 pm

99pence wrote:I wonder what the word on the street is about this game.

People who got a chance to play it are saying it's very fun thus far, and the mechanics feel like the original SMB with more moves. His inertia and such is very similar.

As for level design, nobody has had a chance to play beyond 1-4 as far as I've seen, but general opinion is that 1-4 itself feels a lot like a SMB3 level.

JBC · Post by **JBC** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 11:34 pm

One of the video's on IGN shows Mario bouding about one of the sliding rock shaft areas commonly found in Mario 3 and Mario World...

It's really cool when he becomes Big Mario, too - as almost everything you bump into gets sent flying off into the distance. They also brought back the flagpole castles at the end of each stage! Weeeee!

icycalm · Post by **icycalm** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:18 am

The whole "looks good" vs. "looks bad" argument shouldn't really be an argument. It's like we are a bunch of kids in a gallery looking at a painting. Of course not everyone will like it. There is nothing about this picture

that is inherently good- or bad-looking. It's not even a matter of opinion.

If someone were to say, "in my opinion, this screenshot look beautiful", that would also be wrong. That's the equivalent of saying "in my opinion, everyone should like it because it is beautiful".

Just say "I like it" or "I don't like it" and realize that, as human beings, we like different things.

Personally, I kinda like it, but I need to see it in motion to make up my mind, and I am on dial-up at the moment, so that ain't happening.

sethsez · Post by **sethsez** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:18 am

I don't like it in screenshots.

I do like it in motion.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:29 am

I don't like it in theory.

sethsez · Post by **sethsez** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:37 am

Luckily, nobody plays theories.

JBC · Post by **JBC** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:48 am

LMAO!

Blade · Post by **Blade** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 6:46 am

Gaijin, as far as I've observed there isn't much you do like, which to me says this game will be awesome if you don't think so.

UnscathedFlyingObject · Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:03 am

Boy, I don't like a lot of shit. That's why everyone plays shit and the market is in such a mess.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 10:10 am

Blade wrote:Gaijin, as far as I've observed there isn't much you do like,

You should read more of my posts then.

I've said time and time again this will be a fun game. I just hate to see them make Peach in sprites and this in polygons. Assbackwards.

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