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Apart from a Raccoon looking creature replacing Chewbacca, I would have thought "Solo" would be akin to another Disney movie.
Yeeeeeahhh... I do know what you're saying. But this is like trying to figure out which is the shinier turd. If I distilled Phantom Menace (for example) by boiling away everything disposable I would be left with Darth Maul, the pod race, and a half decent light saber exchange right at the end. And that's about it. But those three things are possibly more interesting than anything that occurred in RO, which is where we start getting fractional.dan76 wrote:Rogue One is bad but you are all smoking crack if you think it's worse than the prequels. Seriously, try and sit through one of those films. It's impossible. And that's a fact!
ChurchOfSolipsism wrote: ALso, this is how SKykid usually posts
heli wrote:Why is milestone director in prison ?, are his game to difficult ?
ChurchOfSolipsism wrote: ALso, this is how SKykid usually posts
Strikers1945guy wrote:"Do we....eat chicken balls?!"
Well yes, they're not important at all. But it's always good to have a film to look forward to seeing. TLJ killed that dead, not that I was looking forward to TLJ much either.Sumez wrote:Mah, it's just movies. I don't really think of any of these movies as "important"
But I get your point, I guess.
Yes, and all power to this concept. Indeed, if someone can actually make an unimportant SW side story that also turns out to be a good film, I'd be right behind it. I think the point that's being missed here is that Rogue One is a dreadful little unimportant movie - it's not even passable as light entertainment because it's so fucking dull and boring in all facets of its assembly, from casting and dialogue to cinematography and direction.dan76 wrote:But, the thing about a Rogue One is that it's unimportant. It's just a little side story that you can watch if you want.
Oh. No. No, no, no.dan76 wrote:What is this bullshit about having to care about characters? Can't you just watch a story unfold. Rogue One isn't a character story. It's a movie about getting the Death Star plans.
ChurchOfSolipsism wrote: ALso, this is how SKykid usually posts
It's the heart of any story.dan76 wrote:What is this bullshit about having to care about characters?
Agreed though. I'm not a big SW fan, but I respect the OT for their creativity/imagination, as well as their pop cultural influence. At this point, turning them into a Disney cow to be milked and squandering (or outright sullying) several OT characters and stories just isn't worth it for a few slightly above average action films that don't really match the OT anyway.dan76 wrote: EDIT: I've got it. I think what I was trying to say was that I'm ok with Rogue One existing because it doesn't mean anything. I'm not ok with TLJ because of what it means for the next film and it's handling of the OT characters.
Aeon Zenith - My STG.RegalSin wrote:Japan an almost perfect society always threatened by outsiders....................
Instead I am stuck in the America's where women rule with an iron crotch, and a man could get arrested for sitting behind a computer too long.
Say what now?!Sumez wrote:Mah, it's just movies. I don't really think of any of these movies as "important"
Star Wars was Kurosawa's Hidden Fortress in a Buck Rogers setting. From the major plot structure, to specific scenes, to the final twist at the end. That's why the story is told from the perspective of its two lowliest characters, C3PO and R2D2. All that talk Lucas made about Campbell's Monomyth (to which the Arthurian (cycle?) belongs) was pure bluster. However it was influential bluster in Hollywood at the time that I think helped the 80s produce so many dumb popcorn flicks that nevertheless had clear plots and relate-able protagonists.Zen wrote:To Lucas eternal chagrin, he told his tale through the context of the Arthurian cycle. Therefore it must be destroyed.
That's a bit harsh.Mischief Maker wrote:[All that talk Lucas made about Campbell's Monomyth (to which the Arthurian (cycle?) belongs) was pure bluster.
Aeon Zenith - My STG.RegalSin wrote:Japan an almost perfect society always threatened by outsiders....................
Instead I am stuck in the America's where women rule with an iron crotch, and a man could get arrested for sitting behind a computer too long.
I was with you right up to this. I thought Turbo Kid was god damn cringeworthy. And I really wanted to like it, too.Mischief Maker wrote: Turbo Kid, by the way, is an EXCELLENT example of a Monomyth script. People, stop bellyaching about Disney Wars failing to recapture your childhood and recapture it instead with Turbo Kid! It's on Netflix Instant!
In truth, this should read; "some of Star Wars was framed in Kurosawa's Hidden Fortress".Mischief Maker wrote:Star Wars was Kurosawa's Hidden Fortress in a Buck Rogers setting.
No, but Lucas failing (not wanting to?) to stick with Le Morte d'Arthur, might be.Mischief Maker wrote:Lucas failing to stick with Kurosawa or Campbell's Monomyth as the skeleton around which to design the prequels was the series' downfall,
There are no SJWs under my bed, I can assure you of that, Mischief Maker.Mischief Maker wrote: not the SJWs hiding under your bed at night.
I mean... that IS his username.Zen wrote:Mischief Maker, I love you buddy but you don't half like to tell porkies and spread mischief. Or, to put it in the context of your post, you are the "Trickster".
BryanM wrote:You're trapped in a haunted house. There's a ghost. It wants to eat your friends and have sex with your cat. When forced to decide between the lives of your friends and the chastity of your kitty, you choose the cat.
When I first saw Star Wars as a child and heard Alec Guinness say that line, Mos Eisley instantly became the most interesting place in the Star Wars universe to me.Jeneki wrote:"wretched hive of scum and villainy"
It won't be. They'll likely undermine Han's entire story arc by painting him as if he was a great hero from the start.Jeneki wrote:I'd like this movie to be decent, but we'll see how it goes.
BryanM wrote:You're trapped in a haunted house. There's a ghost. It wants to eat your friends and have sex with your cat. When forced to decide between the lives of your friends and the chastity of your kitty, you choose the cat.
I think he was implying that the Star Wars Holiday Special exists.Skykid wrote:Sorry sorry, that statement excluding the prequels. There are many times I genuinely forget they exist. Although... damn, it's hard to be absolutely certain with Rogue One. The prequels didn't make me almost fall asleep, and technically speaking their cardboard cutout characters still had more personality than the RO squad, so it's a matter that deserves serious deliberation.Mischief Maker wrote:Skykid wrote:Rogue One is quite easily the worst Star Wars movie ever, it's a total bag of shit in pretty much every way possible.
Oh ye of little faith. At least TLJ made you feel something again, even if those feelings were hate or crippling depression. This one will probably be less interesting than the wacky stuff about Darth Vader's suit in the novels.dan76 wrote:Can't be worse the TLJ can it?
So do Idan76 wrote: I'm hoping the western feel is really pushed.
Like purposefully including Chewie in a shot where his grief is ignored and instead Leia makes a bee-line to a new, meaningless character instead.BareKnuckleRoo wrote:Sometimes when you decide to make a prequel/backstory to a beloved character who didn't need it, you write a shitty, canonical backstory involving them getting emo about sand and lightsabering children to death, and ruin the character for future generations. No more being shrouded in mystery and unknown.
Its not about the money. At least not for Kathleen Kennedy. Decisions were made that damaged the franchise and thus the profits. Why? See all the above.BareKnuckleRoo wrote:I totally get why these stupid backstory movies are being made though. Disney has a cash cow, and it's gonna milk it for all it's worth