Extron CrossPoint 450 Plus 3232 & BVM D24E1WU

[Dragon89o]

Hey, so I just purchased an Extron Crosspoint 450 Plus 3232. I'm looking to use it with my Sony BVM D24E1WU. I'd ideally like to have a signal cord from each of my consoles go straight to bnc into the Matrix Switcher then have a single bnc cord going to my Sony BVM or Mitsubishi Megaview AM-4201R. Now my question is do any of you know if I'll need a sync stripper or something similar to plug certain consoles into the Matrix Switcher, Sony BVM, or the Megaview?

I ended up buying some of these to quickly test component. I'm just hoping they are not super cheap quality.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/10Pcs-Gold-Pla ... SwLsBZQt16

Also does anyone know a good place to quickly get a phoenix adapter to rca adapter? I have a 30 day return policy on the Extron Crosspoint. I'm wanting to quickly test all of it's ports to make sure they are working correctly.

Specs below:
https://www.extron.com/product/product. ... s3232#spec
http://www.broadcaststore.com/store/mod ... m?id=22107

Images
https://i.imgur.com/uxIlfKG.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/aCkS1mq.jpg

[Xer Xian]

I'd ideally like to have a signal cord from each of my consoles go straight to bnc into the Matrix Switcher

You will have a hard time finding such cables.. most consoles need to have components on the RGB lines (and sync, even though this wouldn't be required in your case) and they probably won't fit into BNC connectors. You need BNC breakout cables, and fairly long too since the color and sync channels are far apart in your Crosspoint.

Now my question is do any of you know if I'll need a sync stripper or something similar to plug certain consoles into the Matrix Switcher

If you have consoles that do not output clean sync, then yes.

Also does anyone know a good place to quickly get a phoenix adapter to rca adapter?

See this discussion: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=57768

Images
https://i.imgur.com/uxIlfKG.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/aCkS1mq.jpg

Man, the 360 looks tiny next to that beast

[mvsfan]

3232? How many Rgb consoles do you have?

[FinalBaton]

I'd ideally like to have a signal cord from each of my consoles go straight to bnc into the Matrix Switcher

Retro_Console_Accessories does BNC cables for a bunch of consoles. Hit up her store. Even if there's no cable on there for a particular console, you can send her a message and ask for a cable and she'll make it for you. Those cables aren't cheap thought but they do require more work so it kinda makes sense.

[FinalBaton]

I'd ideally like to have a signal cord from each of my consoles go straight to bnc into the Matrix Switcher

Retro_Console_Accessories does BNC cables for a bunch of consoles. Hit up her store. Even if there's no cable on there for a particular console, you can send her a message and ask for a cable and she'll make it for you. Those cables aren't cheap thought but they do require more work so it kinda makes sense.

Mitsubishi Megaview AM-4201R

Holy fucking shit
*drops whatever I was holding*

[Dragon89o]

I'd ideally like to have a signal cord from each of my consoles go straight to bnc into the Matrix Switcher

You will have a hard time finding such cables.. most consoles need to have components on the RGB lines (and sync, even though this wouldn't be required in your case) and they probably won't fit into BNC connectors. You need BNC breakout cables, and fairly long too since the color and sync channels are far apart in your Crosspoint.

Yeah, I was planning on just buying specially ordered cables for my needs instead of buying premade options. Would there be any issues I may run into for any console trying to run it that way?

Now my question is do any of you know if I'll need a sync stripper or something similar to plug certain consoles into the Matrix Switcher

If you have consoles that do not output clean sync, then yes. [/quote]

Sync is the main thing I'm probably needing some help with. I wasn't able to find a simple list showing x console outputs x signal. Also I'v seen people use syn strippers inside of a scart cable or vga cable but do you know if it's possible to have it made into a bnc cable? I'm hoping to avoid using scart all together and just use bnc.

Also does anyone know a good place to quickly get a phoenix adapter to rca adapter?
See this discussion: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=57768

Yeah I think I had looked at that previously to posting and it was mostly people mentioning how they were making their own or trying to order from wookieewin on ebay.

Images
https://i.imgur.com/uxIlfKG.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/aCkS1mq.jpg

Man, the 360 looks tiny next to that beast [/quote]

That is funny you brought it up haha. I had just showed it to a co-worker today and he said it made the 360 look like the size of a wiimote and the matrix switcher looked like the size of a mini beverage fridge. Heck I think it makes the BVM look smaller just having it next to it but that isn't how I plan to set it up.

3232? How many Rgb consoles do you have?

Well I bought it for not how many consoles I own now but how many I plan to use. So I might not reach 32 but the next lowest option was 24 and I plan to go over that with time. The real question is do I need that many outputs? xP
I don't plan to get anywhere near that many outputs but it's hard to find Extron Matrix Switchers fully slotted out in good condition. I could of probably went with a 32x16 which would of saved me 3.5 inches in height too. It would of just bugged my ocd seeing it having 32 buttons for output but only having 16 output options lol. They didn't design them with less buttons lol.

I'd ideally like to have a signal cord from each of my consoles go straight to bnc into the Matrix Switcher

Retro_Console_Accessories does BNC cables for a bunch of consoles. Hit up her store. Even if there's no cable on there for a particular console, you can send her a message and ask for a cable and she'll make it for you. Those cables aren't cheap thought but they do require more work so it kinda makes sense.

Yeah I was planning on contacting her later on. How long does it normally take her to make and ship the cable? I was hoping to try and quickly test the audio on this thing within 30 days for the return policy to make sure everything was working fine.

Mitsubishi Megaview AM-4201R

Holy fucking shit
*drops whatever I was holding*

Was that reaction to the size of the monitor or the rarity lol? Here is a picture from a couple of years ago. Not much has changed as I was over seas for a while and had them stored. The PVM I plan to sell/trade along with the JVC.
The Mitsubishi on the left is a consumer grade one which I had only bought a week before the professional mitsubishi one thinking it would take me 2 years to find that model. I ended up finding it a week later lol so I'll end up eventually getting rid of the consumer grade Mitsuibishi TV and keep the RGB Mitsuibshi TV. I just need to find someone who works on CRTs. It's working correctly but I want to get it cleaned out, recapped, and try replacing the fan with a more quite one before I start to use it. So if you know anyone on the east coast near D.C. let me know.
https://imgur.com/Ny4w0GF

[FinalBaton]

Was reacting to the size but it must be pretty rare too.

[Dochartaigh]

Sync is the main thing I'm probably needing some help with. I wasn't able to find a simple list showing x console outputs x signal. Also I'v seen people use syn strippers inside of a scart cable or vga cable but do you know if it's possible to have it made into a bnc cable? I'm hoping to avoid using scart all together and just use bnc

RetroRGB.com goes through every console and how to get the best signal from it - including which type of sync different ones use.

SCART cables are also commonly used because it's WAY easier (and cheaper, and having the cable actually be available) to fit the resistors and things like sync strippers inside the largish SCART head - no good way to do that on straight-to-BNC cables besides wrapping the chip and resistor(s) in a big old ugly piece of shrink wrap or whatnot. I'm also not sure even Retro-Access can make EVERY cable for every system go straight to BNC. These are all reasons why it's a ton more common (and easy and cheaper most likely) to use regular SCART cables, then use the SCART to BNC breakout cables/adapters to plug it into your Crosspoint.

[Dragon89o]

RetroRGB.com goes through every console and how to get the best signal from it - including which type of sync different ones use.

Yeah, I'll have to look into specific consoles part of it again. Trying to figure out which console would need a sync stripper going into the Extron. Then if the Extron going out would have any issue with my BVM or Megaview.

SCART cables are also commonly used because it's WAY easier (and cheaper, and having the cable actually be available) to fit the resistors and things like sync strippers inside the largish SCART head - no good way to do that on straight-to-BNC cables besides wrapping the chip and resistor(s) in a big old ugly piece of shrink wrap or whatnot. I'm also not sure even Retro-Access can make EVERY cable for every system go straight to BNC. These are all reasons why it's a ton more common (and easy and cheaper most likely) to use regular SCART cables, then use the SCART to BNC breakout cables/adapters to plug it into your Crosspoint.

Yeah I get why they are more common with their consumer use in Europe and Australia. It's just they are such a bulky connection. That and with my switcher and crts both using bnc over scart I just want to avoid using scart. It means another connection in the chain and cable management with this thing will already be annoying enough.

I am already expecting to pay more to use bnc over scart but I think it will be worth it to have a cleaner set up and easier time with cable management. Also in theory I know no one is currently offering the solution but what if you could 3D print a small plastic box where you would put chip and resistor into maybe a foot before the cable broke out into it's connectors? Couldn't that work?

Edit: Looking at RetroAccess he builds some stripers in the console end of the cord so that seems like an option for some consoles. Easier then what I had mentioned.

[mvsfan]

3232? How many Rgb consoles do you have?


Well I bought it for not how many consoles I own now but how many I plan to use. So I might not reach 32 but the next lowest option was 24 and I plan to go over that with time. The real question is do I need that many outputs? xP
I don't plan to get anywhere near that many outputs but it's hard to find Extron Matrix Switchers fully slotted out in good condition. I could of probably went with a 32x16 which would of saved me 3.5 inches in height too. It would of just bugged my ocd seeing it having 32 buttons for output but only having 16 output options lol. They didn't design them with less buttons lol.

Yeah that bugs me too about the buttons. why keep 32 buttons if you dont have that many outputs?
24, Thats a lot of consoles. cool.
32 outputs is just asking you to build a TV wall.

[Dragon89o]

Yeah that bugs me too about the buttons. why keep 32 buttons if you dont have that many outputs?
24, Thats a lot of consoles. cool.
32 outputs is just asking you to build a TV wall.

Well I don't have 24 yet but I plan to have more then that. So I bought it for what I plan to have in the future not what I have now haha.
I only have the consoles I grew up with which is about 11 consoles that would be between 240p-720p range. None of which I have modded yet.
I'm looking to complete the hardware side of things first so everything is up and ready and I can just buy what ever game for what ever console I want in that moment.
The consoles can come pretty quickly as they are much cheaper to obtain then some of this other equipment haha.

And as for the outputs I have quite a bit of ideas planned it will just take me some time to set everything up lol.

[Dragon89o]

So I had another question. Is there a connection type difference between 75Ω and 50Ω bnc connectors? That's something I'm also slightly unfamiliar with. I ordered a bunch of BNC-RCA adapters and wanted to be sure I ordered the right things for my set up. I saw this image online which is why I started to question it.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... 75_Ohm.jpg

[Dragon89o]

So I just got everything I needed in the mail and in store to test the Extron Matrix switcher. I got more gold plated BNC to RCA adapters, Phoenix to RCA adapters, Stereo Audio RCA shielded cord gold plated, and a component cable which is shielded and gold plated as well.
I ended up connecting a wii with component cables to the matrix switcher with the bnc adapters for the video and used the pheonix adapter to connect the audio for the input. I used the bnc adapters again to go out of the matrix switcher to the BVM and used the phoenix adapter to go out to an external speaker. Took me longer then it should have to figure out the settings to test everything but I wasn't able to the colors correct on the BVM when using the Extron. After trouble shooting everything I could I ended up just connecting it straight to the BVM to see if the matrix switcher was somehow the issue. Once it was connected directly the colors on the BVM appeared correctly.

So my question is does anyone know what I may have been doing incorrectly to cause that? I can upload images in about 16 hours from this post with the color difference when using the extron and when connecting directly to the bvm if that helps.