gscartsw / gscartsw_lite / gcompsw switches support thread

[umi]

Yes I realize that, however I was checking for months, missed the first time obviously due to barely any stock, and guess what, I have more important things to do then check a thread all day, so eventually when notifications stopped it slipped my mind. The fact that nothing came for weeks says they are more than just broken. A simple mailing list would rarely if ever have that problem (OSSC did it right).

It's not a matter of life and death (I'm trying to set this up so I can game a bit more, I don't have much time so I'd like it to be high quality and as enjoyable as possible), it's more that highly flawed systems that don't get fixed annoy me...

It's enough to check once a week, I constantly update the thread. RetroRGB always posts to his Facebook and Twitter that switches are available for pre-order / purchase.
Putting a blame on somebody will get you nowhere. It's you who missed it, not me. If anything here annoys you - just move along.

All good, you never won't get my business... despite sounding complainy, it was meant to be constructive criticism. It's nice for people from all walks of life (including hectic ones) to get a chance

[hex12]

Hi SuperG, i recently discovered your switch GSCARTSW_LITE and missed november order for a thin piece of hair.
I read that you will have new pieces in December but i wished to know if it will be possible to make a pre-order or if orders will be possible only when article will be available again because i really need one of them.
In the last case do you think that orders will be available mid December or before for this hardware?
I ask you because i didn't understand if 4-6 weeks to wait are only for GCOMPSW or also for GSCARTSW_LITE.

Thanks in advance.

[superg]

All good, you never won't get my business... despite sounding complainy, it was meant to be constructive criticism. It's nice for people from all walks of life (including hectic ones) to get a chance

Constructive?

barely any stock

This?

guess what, I have more important things to do

Or this?

more than just broken

Maybe this?

OSSC did it right

Or

highly flawed systems that don't get fixed annoy me...

What exactly is constructive here?

After supergun mishap I said in this topic that I will look into other ways of notifications. It doesn't happen in one day.
Honestly I don't think that you realize how much effort it takes to maintain such a project, communicating and resolving the issues with manufacturer, being responsive on forums, ordering parts and fixing supergun damaged switches in between. Also I have a full time job and family. There is barely time for anything else.

[beast1x5]

Blow up lmmfao

[6arm79]

If I plug in a PS2 @31khz RGsB will this pick up the sync on Green, even though it's not on the sync pin, and automatically switch to the PS2 input?

Thanks

[superg]

If I plug in a PS2 @31khz RGsB will this pick up the sync on Green, even though it's not on the sync pin, and automatically switch to the PS2 input?

Thanks

No, it won't work. Check retrorgb suggestion couple of posts back, would be easier to mod your PS2.

[KoroKoro]

so glad I put in the effort to stay up all night to secure mine. 100% worth it!
1 very happy customer
Thanks so much for putting in the effort to build them for us.


Now all I need is a DC Toro vga box :/

[tusecsy]

Yes I realize that, however I was checking for months, missed the first time obviously due to barely any stock, and guess what, I have more important things to do then check a thread all day, so eventually when notifications stopped it slipped my mind. The fact that nothing came for weeks says they are more than just broken. A simple mailing list would rarely if ever have that problem (OSSC did it right).

It's not a matter of life and death (I'm trying to set this up so I can game a bit more, I don't have much time so I'd like it to be high quality and as enjoyable as possible), it's more that highly flawed systems that don't get fixed annoy me...

It's enough to check once a week, I constantly update the thread. RetroRGB always posts to his Facebook and Twitter that switches are available for pre-order / purchase.
Putting a blame on somebody will get you nowhere. It's you who missed it, not me. If anything here annoys you - just move along.

Why don't you just open a twitter people can follow? It's free and takes 5 seconds. Just put up an update when you have stock.

Your whole plan to get plenty of them and keep them in stock didn't exactly work out as they sold out in 24 hours. Why not do preorders now so everyone who wants one has a chance to order one. Nobody cares about them shipping out "immediately", if they have to wait 2 months between shipments for a 24 hour window.

But hey, I shouldn't care because I finally got mine after refreshing threads for 4 months, works great!

although it does feel like there's about 50$ worth of materials here. could've at least enclosed the switch so it's not a dust magnet. and for 200$ I would think sync on green for PS2 should work? seems like a pretty big oversight.

[superg]

Why don't you just open a twitter people can follow? It's free and takes 5 seconds. Just put up an update when you have stock.

Your whole plan to get plenty of them and keep them in stock didn't exactly work out as they sold out in 24 hours. Why not do preorders now so everyone who wants one has a chance to order one. Nobody cares about them shipping out "immediately", if they have to wait 2 months between shipments for a 24 hour window.

But hey, I shouldn't care because I finally got mine after refreshing threads for 4 months, works great!

although it does feel like there's about 50$ worth of materials here. could've at least enclosed the switch so it's not a dust magnet. and for 200$ I would think sync on green for PS2 should work? seems like a pretty big oversight.

I don't want another account somewhere else. Ideally I'll somehow attach it to gretrostuff. No pre-orders because I'm not comfortable holding somebody else's money. I'd rather risk with my own. The demand always changes, historically I order more and more, obviously it's hard to keep up. $50 guess is quite entertaining, Soldered PCB is above $100 . If you would make just one switch it will cost you $300+. Check gscartsw v3.4 JP21 edition BOM I published just for the raw component prices.

[tusecsy]

Why don't you just open a twitter people can follow? It's free and takes 5 seconds. Just put up an update when you have stock.

Your whole plan to get plenty of them and keep them in stock didn't exactly work out as they sold out in 24 hours. Why not do preorders now so everyone who wants one has a chance to order one. Nobody cares about them shipping out "immediately", if they have to wait 2 months between shipments for a 24 hour window.

But hey, I shouldn't care because I finally got mine after refreshing threads for 4 months, works great!

although it does feel like there's about 50$ worth of materials here. could've at least enclosed the switch so it's not a dust magnet. and for 200$ I would think sync on green for PS2 should work? seems like a pretty big oversight.

I don't want another account somewhere else. Ideally I'll somehow attach it to gretrostuff. No pre-orders because I'm not comfortable holding somebody else's money. I'd rather risk with my own. The demand always changes, historically I order more and more, obviously it's hard to keep up. $50 guess is quite entertaining, Soldered PCB is above $100 . If you would make just one switch it will cost you $300+. Check gscartsw v3.4 JP21 edition BOM I published just for the raw component prices.

Yes, If I were to make one it would cost above 100$, but there is no way the pcb alone costs you that much when buying in bulk. I have no problem with you making a healthy profit, you deserve it. I just wish there were a version that was properly enclosed with sync on green available.

It would take you 30 seconds of work to get a twitter open, you only need to update it say a week before the product arrives and then when it arrives. I don't feel "i don't want multiple accounts" is an adequate excuse for a much superior notification format. Getting 200 updates from a thread when only one of them is relevant is hardly convenient.

[umi]

All good, you never won't get my business... despite sounding complainy, it was meant to be constructive criticism. It's nice for people from all walks of life (including hectic ones) to get a chance

Constructive?

barely any stock

This?

guess what, I have more important things to do

Or this?

more than just broken

Maybe this?

OSSC did it right

Or

highly flawed systems that don't get fixed annoy me...

What exactly is constructive here?

After supergun mishap I said in this topic that I will look into other ways of notifications. It doesn't happen in one day.
Honestly I don't think that you realize how much effort it takes to maintain such a project, communicating and resolving the issues with manufacturer, being responsive on forums, ordering parts and fixing supergun damaged switches in between. Also I have a full time job and family. There is barely time for anything else.

Oh well, you should be flattered people are so passionate about your product . Really, if you can't whinge on the internet, where can you?
I unsubscribed and resubscribed to this thread, and notifications are currently working. If they keep working (and I assume it's a weird bug), then I'll be sure to get one next round (happy days).

[superg]

Yes, If I were to make one it would cost above 100$, but there is no way the pcb alone costs you that much when buying in bulk. I have no problem with you making a healthy profit, you deserve it. I just wish there were a version that was properly enclosed with sync on green available.

The whole set of parts for the one gscartsw_lite unit is above $100 even in bulk quantities. That's the reality in analog RGBS switching, it's expensive to manufacture. In other projects you pay more for the software part than for hardware. Let's say MNEMO gdrom / 3do usb adapter or krikkz flash carts or PSIO - hardware is pretty inexpensive but I'd say that they spent around 90% making the software for it.
Yet try to acquire PSIO and then complain about gscartsw availability

[zak]

Why don't you just open a twitter people can follow? It's free and takes 5 seconds. Just put up an update when you have stock.

Your whole plan to get plenty of them and keep them in stock didn't exactly work out as they sold out in 24 hours. Why not do preorders now so everyone who wants one has a chance to order one. Nobody cares about them shipping out "immediately", if they have to wait 2 months between shipments for a 24 hour window.

But hey, I shouldn't care because I finally got mine after refreshing threads for 4 months, works great!

although it does feel like there's about 50$ worth of materials here. could've at least enclosed the switch so it's not a dust magnet. and for 200$ I would think sync on green for PS2 should work? seems like a pretty big oversight.

I don't want another account somewhere else. Ideally I'll somehow attach it to gretrostuff. No pre-orders because I'm not comfortable holding somebody else's money. I'd rather risk with my own. The demand always changes, historically I order more and more, obviously it's hard to keep up. $50 guess is quite entertaining, Soldered PCB is above $100 . If you would make just one switch it will cost you $300+. Check gscartsw v3.4 JP21 edition BOM I published just for the raw component prices.

Yes, If I were to make one it would cost above 100$, but there is no way the pcb alone costs you that much when buying in bulk. I have no problem with you making a healthy profit, you deserve it. I just wish there were a version that was properly enclosed with sync on green available.

It would take you 30 seconds of work to get a twitter open, you only need to update it say a week before the product arrives and then when it arrives. I don't feel "i don't want multiple accounts" is an adequate excuse for a much superior notification format. Getting 200 updates from a thread when only one of them is relevant is hardly convenient.

Are you on a mission?

[tusecsy]

Yes, If I were to make one it would cost above 100$, but there is no way the pcb alone costs you that much when buying in bulk. I have no problem with you making a healthy profit, you deserve it. I just wish there were a version that was properly enclosed with sync on green available.

The whole set of parts for the one gscartsw_lite unit is above $100 even in bulk quantities. That's the reality in analog RGBS switching, it's expensive to manufacture. In other projects you pay more for the software part than for hardware. Let's say MNEMO gdrom / 3do usb adapter or krikkz flash carts or PSIO - hardware is pretty inexpensive but I'd say that they spent around 90% making the software for it.
Yet try to acquire PSIO and then complain about gscartsw availability

Yet acquiring the mnemo gdrom all the way from russia was way easier than the gscart.

If it does cost you over 100$ for parts, then I stand corrected. You should be charging more for your product then, not less. Any good business charges double the cost, not including labor.

I would still like to see a version with a full enclosure, sync on green compatibility, and proper voltage protection from things out of spec, but possibly I'm in the minority in this regard. Price is not an issue for unnecessary convenience-oriented products like this.

My only mission is to help superg succeed, and not opening a simple twitter or taking preorders is definitely not helping him. But I've made my point I'll step back now.

[chromium]

Crap forgot to check this thread for a few days. Please tell me I haven't missed gcompsw

I REALLY wish there was a better way to be notified when orders are open. I'm subscribed to the thread but it's still annoying having to check here all the time when there are new posts just in case one of them is saying that orders are open.

[nmalinoski]

Why don't you just open a twitter people can follow? It's free and takes 5 seconds. Just put up an update when you have stock.

Personally, I'd rather sign up for a mailing list and get notified by email, because it doesn't require me to sign up for or figure out how to use any social media services I'm not otherwise going to use.

[umi]

Why don't you just open a twitter people can follow? It's free and takes 5 seconds. Just put up an update when you have stock.

Personally, I'd rather sign up for a mailing list and get notified by email, because it doesn't require me to sign up for or figure out how to use any social media services I'm not otherwise going to use.

Seconded.. I have a twitter, but I never use it anymore... all my subs drown the feed, there's a high chance that unless it was the sole sub, it would never be seen. (However I'm sure there's some option that could be tweaked to better effect than in this forum).

[andykara2003]

Ulitmately Superg can sell his kit any way he wants. Hassle him all you want but he's been very clear about how he wants to do things. You can say that he should run his business in a certain way but his only duty of care is to ship a decent product in a relatively timely manner.

[doonut]

Confirm shipping safe
Thanks superg

[clintkolodziej]

Oh well, you should be flattered people are so passionate about your product . Really, if you can't whinge on the internet, where can you?
I unsubscribed and resubscribed to this thread, and notifications are currently working. If they keep working (and I assume it's a weird bug), then I'll be sure to get one next round (happy days).

Umi, I wouldn't trust the notifications completely, they seem to work if you always click on the link in the email to view the messages, but if you just open the forum thread in a browser manually they seem to stop after a while. Usually if you check back weekly superg has posted some sort of update on the progress of manufacturing, when he expects to be receiving things, assembling, etc, and eventually will usually give a ballpark estimate when they will go on sale. When you see that you probably want to check a bit more often.

Yeah, a mailing list might help. I found one that seems to be free, https://www.freelists.org/, though it looks like they are selective on what lists they allow, might be worth a shot since it doesn't have # of user limits, etc. In the end it's up to superg, it's his time and whatever it is needs to work for him. I'm on twitter as well and would follow him, but if he doesn't want to be on social networks I completely understand it.

[6arm79]

Ulitmately Superg can sell his kit any way he wants. Hassle him all you want but he's been very clear about how he wants to do things. You can say that he should run his business in a certain way but his only duty of care is to ship a decent product in a relatively timely manner.

superg can run his business however he wants, but he has to realize that some will lose interested in his product because of his choices, both about the product itself and how he interacts with customers. The switch is a convenience item and it doesn't seem worth the time to wait around for some mythical 24-hour window that only comes once a moon. By the same token, a price jump to $300 would not matter to me if the product was readily available, as well as supporting everything that it's advertised to do. Not supporting modded consoles suggests that all major RGB-capable consoles should be fully supported.

[LDigital]

So much whinging in this thread now.

[darkforce256]

People need to stop acting like entitled a-holes. If you have problems with superg design and sell your own product.

Thanks superg, got mine a few days ago. Had to wait a few months for the opportunity to buy one but this is a super small scale project, so no surprise. People need to be more respectful.

[andykara2003]

but he has to realize that some will lose interested in his product because of his choices

His stuff sells out much faster than he can produce it - I doubt he'll lose too much sleep.

People need to stop acting like entitled a-holes. If you have problems with superg design and sell your own product.

This.

[chromium]

but he has to realize that some will lose interested in his product because of his choices

His stuff sells out much faster than he can produce it - I doubt he'll lose too much sleep.

Still, a simple method of being notified rather than checking this thread for months on end would be a much better way of doing things. Just because there's no competition, doesn't mean you shouldn't make things easier for potential customers.

I've been waiting for gcompsw for months and have been checking this thread as often as I remember. Now I know there will be a window opening in 3-5 weeks, but could still easily miss it.

[Sabin]

Hey superg, recieved all the gscart stuff this week. Thanks for taking care of me as well as repairing my gscartw due to supergun damage. Much appreciated and it's a pleasure to do business with you again.

Will be waiting in the cut for gcompsw next and I won't be dealing with Windy Superguns ever again (got a retroeletronik supergun which I know works with the gscartsw.)

[superg]

superg can run his business however he wants, but he has to realize that some will lose interested in his product because of his choices, both about the product itself and how he interacts with customers. The switch is a convenience item and it doesn't seem worth the time to wait around for some mythical 24-hour window that only comes once a moon. By the same token, a price jump to $300 would not matter to me if the product was readily available, as well as supporting everything that it's advertised to do. Not supporting modded consoles suggests that all major RGB-capable consoles should be fully supported.

Mmm, how do I interact with the customers? Are you the owner? Upset with something?
Not supporting modded consoles means just that: not providing support with countless of improper mods out there. There is at least one proven good mod of every console that works. Neither can I afford to educate every newbie nor look into why particular mod in particular configuration doesn't work.

[herbscottie]

So I got my two gscarts, going to get my gcomp, I got 2 bkm-24n to handle the other 4 s-video systems and one composite system, I have my stereo cable from Sega cd... Does anyone have a good or should I say best solution to switch the 8 stereo (red white) connections to maybe 2 outs?

[Vasid]

I've been watching this thread for days disgusted with the people complaining at Superg to cater to them in order for them to get one of these devices. I'm going to try and word this carefully so I don't get banned with my first post, but know that I'm holding back what I really think. You people are lazy and deserve nothing, the fact is there are applications out there specifically for website monitoring, and on top of that I'm sure there are other ways. You shouldn't cry like little babies expecting the busy creator of these items to cater to you, you should GROW UP and find a way to monitor the page yourself. Quit your crying on this forum please, it's pathetic and cringe-worthy. If you can't figure out a way to get your hands on one then I guess that's just one more available for someone who instead of crying and complaining actually worked out a plan of action.

[magus90]

I have managed to get 2 of these in the last year. It isn't easy, but if you even check this thread just a couple times a week when checking your email, you will inevitably catch the post from SuperG weeks in advance stating which day they will be on sale. And this last time around, they were up for hours.

It is a one man operation, and his product speaks for itself which is why it sells out so fast and why it has a premium price. If you want it bad enough, just put the effort and check the thread once in a while. This is the way he wants to do things, and since he is making these, that is his choice and yours to comply or not if you really want one.

And of course some people won't ever be happy with the product until it massages your balls and makes you pancakes. It is a great product and honestly one of my most valuable pieces of equipment even for just the sole convenience of never having to fiddle with wires. Nevermind the abilities to dual output now which makes recording so much better.