Businessman and TV personality Donald Trump to initiate WW3?

[Skykid]

Likelihood on a scale of 1-10 (with 1 being least likely) now that Kim Junny is about to retaliate with atmospheric nukes over the Pacific?

[Zen]

Trick question, as both Don and Kim are a tag team working for the same people?

[Skykid]

Trick question, as both Don and Kim are a tag team working for the same people?

Not as far as I know.

Big Jun got pissed at Trump's blowhardedness and comments about his sanity, non-country and non-people in the UN, and made the first ever public appearance when directly addressing another leader to tell him retaliation for the remarks are now guaranteed and missile shaped.

That's as much as I know. China's facepalming all over the place and begging for negotiations to settle tensions between the two boys, and Russia is right behind; especially since Donald stuck a THAAD missile defense system in South Corea in recent weeks.

[Mischief Maker]

It's worth noting for the Bill Maher types, who are trying to redeem Bush jr's image in comparison to Trump, that Bush jr IS the moron who got us into this mess. We HAD a nuclear deal with North Korea (however imperfect) that was working (just as we HAVE a nuclear deal with Iran) when all of a sudden Bush jr comes out and declares NK part of <strike>the Legion of Doom</strike> the Axis of Evil and deep-sixes the deal with no better replacement than the threat of force.

This is not Trump policy, this is standard Republican policy as enacted by an unstable manchild.

[Zen]

Does anyone believe that Bush Jr. decided anything?
Or Bill Clinton when, as part of "his" policy of "positive engagement", two lightwater reactors where sold to north Korea as part of this "deal". Clinton decided that?

The demon Rumsfeld was on the board of the company got that contract, to the tune of $200m, correct? Couple of years later he was declaring north Korea part of the "axis of evil"

So, "Republicans" and "Democrats", playing "good cop, bad cop", bank at least $200m for their handlers and plant a pair of Trojan horses for a later date.
Nice work if you can get it.

And as for Kim Jong Un and Donald John Trump . . . a good cop, bad cop duo, bordering on full retard for a world full of retards. ROCKETMAN and DOTARD indeed.

[Rob]

I'm going with 7. Would be one way to deal with the immigration and millennial problems.

[BryanM]

No. Even in the worst case scenario where the Neo-cons (who I imagine is who you're really talking about, as Trump is nothing but a middle man puppet) murder everyone on the peninsula like they want to, China and Russia aren't going to want to kill themselves. They would only launch the ICBMs as a last "fuck this shitty world" when their own countries and necks are on the line.

two lightwater reactors where sold to north Korea as part of this "deal"

Zen and Mischief are talking about the Agreed Framework here. The lightwater reactors Zen is talking about were never built. (And btw, weapons grade uranium is created by filtering uranium isotopes in a centrifuge, not a reactor.)

Most amusing of all is how the Clinton people thought that the North Korean regime was going to magically collapse for no reason. That's not how it works, guys. It sure explains Hillary Clinton's cunning "Trump will beat himself!" strategy.

See also: The 30% of the people in the other Bush Jr. Jr. thread who think he isn't going to make it through term one. C'mon guys, learn from history and not wishful thinking. Why on earth would he quit, when he's in the gold mine porking gold every day.

millennial problems

Yeah, with the rap music and caring 'bout each other. Damn kids!

[Rob]

Putting aside your enjoyment (or not) of rap music, do you think it has had a positive influence on society? "Caring about each other" - good one.

[BulletMagnet]

Tempted to just say "one thread of this is more than enough, thank you", but what the heck, let's see where this goes. For now.

[Bananamatic]

Putting aside your enjoyment (or not) of rap music, do you think it has had a positive influence on society?

there's more to rap than gangsta dick swinging and telling others that commiting crimes is cool

[Deadliar]

3.

A war? Yes. A big war? Could totally happen.

WW3? Nah. I don't think WW3 could happen, at least not with these catalysts.

[Skykid]

3.

A war? Yes. A big war? Could totally happen.

WW3? Nah. I don't think WW3 could happen, at least not with these catalysts.

The elephant in the room is China. They fought for North Korea for the better part of a decade and lost millions in the war, and there's still this lingering, if fairly thin, comradeship hangover from that time. NK is such a close neighbor (in proximity terms - they don't offer much else) that in the event of a conflict it would be right on their doorstep.

Of course they're absolutely disinterested in a war of any kind, but the question is whether or not they would move to defend NK from a US attack? Nobody actually knows, but it's the thing everyone is wondering.

And if China moves to to defend NK, Russia will almost certainly stand with them, meaning Putin and Trump can't be buddies no more.

Does anyone believe that Bush Jr. decided anything?

No.

[gameoverDude]

Criminy! Will the real Donald Trump please GROW UP? For starters, he needs to try laying off of the schoolyard bully insults. That sort of talk doesn't impress me. If anything, it only serves to appall.

I'm going to have to vote on the lower end of this scale... ok, I'm going to have to say 2. Not impossible, but not a strong chance. Hopefully Trump is not THAT much of a Dotard to strike first. And I'm sure Kim knows what would happen if he did launch a nuke on target. MAD is a factor against one nation striking the other.

Would China move to defend NK if (God forbid) WWIII happened? Tough to say. If they did, then I guess retaliation would be directed at them as well as NK. Also, I had heard once that China said they would deny support to NK if it turned out to be the instigator.

Hopefully Donald will have to clear his desk out in 2021 to make way for a Democrat President-Elect. Then again, I do hope he gets impeached successfully. That would mean President Pence, but Mike would probably be not as bad as Trump.

[Skykid]

China aren't ok with Fats Un launching provocative missile tests, and have threatened to withdraw aid and trade (one way) if he doesn't quit being a little bitch in the past.

I have absolutely no idea if Un cares though, about anybody. Best case scenario is China nuke NK and get then out of the way. They're close enough to strike fast and have anti air defense capabilities that the US and Japan apparently don't have. In fact I read that the US may not be able to stop a nuclear strike against Guam or Japan in time if NK were to fire upon them.

[Cee]

Jesus i think to many people are reading the guardian articles or something.

No it won't start ww3 and the china question is more what the agreement would be following intervention in regards to annexing land or who gets the coal and minerals aside from that china lost it's allegiance on any other grounds after Kim assassinated his uncle and biggest diplomatic connection to china. China would be more concerned about the possibility of the u.s taking over installing a government and sticking provocative missile defence around the chinese border just as they have endlessly done to provoke russia through the disingenuous N.A.T.O whose real purpose dried up decades ago.

Best case scenario is China nuke NK and get then out of the way. They're close enough to strike fast and have anti air defense capabilities that the US and Japan apparently don't have. In fact I read that the US may not be able to stop a nuclear strike against Guam or Japan in time if NK were to fire upon them.

And you're an adult? if you are within proximity you have no reason to make land inhabitable, threaten your own environment and destroy potential future profiteering though the use of nuclear warfare which is always undesired and a last choice on top of needless civilian casualties and the potential for endless rebellion by a disgruntled nation of innocents. You had to read that? surely you're capable of a sensible assessment based on north koreas hardware capabilities and geographical circumstance? Ideally the u.s will be looking at pre emptive measures to remove his deployment capabilities because no one wants to deal with fallout.

Criminy! Will the real Donald Trump please GROW UP? For starters, he needs to try laying off of the schoolyard bully insults. That sort of talk doesn't impress me. If anything, it only serves to appall.

I'm going to have to vote on the lower end of this scale... ok, I'm going to have to say 2. Not impossible, but not a strong chance. Hopefully Trump is not THAT much of a Dotard to strike first. And I'm sure Kim knows what would happen if he did launch a nuke on target. MAD is a factor against one nation striking the other.

Would China move to defend NK if (God forbid) WWIII happened? Tough to say. If they did, then I guess retaliation would be directed at them as well as NK. Also, I had heard once that China said they would deny support to NK if it turned out to be the instigator.

Hopefully Donald will have to clear his desk out in 2021 to make way for a Democrat President-Elect. Then again, I do hope he gets impeached successfully. That would mean President Pence, but Mike would probably be not as bad as Trump.

Is this parody? I certainly hope so but i won't hold my breathe.

[Skykid]

Best case scenario is China nuke NK and get then out of the way. They're close enough to strike fast and have anti air defense capabilities that the US and Japan apparently don't have. In fact I read that the US may not be able to stop a nuclear strike against Guam or Japan in time if NK were to fire upon them.

And you're an adult?

Last time I looked, although I try not to let it get me down.

I wasn't being entirely serious with the suggestion China nuke North Korea (surprise!) but I do think a stronger position against North Korea would be for the better. If North Korea don't have China as an ally It would change things considerably.

I think everyone would prefer to avoid nuclear war if possible.

[Deadliar]

Skykid be like

[neorichieb1971]

If Putin did help Donald win the US election it stands true that we have 2 leaders banging heads that have the shortest fuses with NK and the USA.

Maybe Putin wanted to test the waters between the 2.

I don't think NK will deliberately fire a missile that will cause harm. Its more likely that a situation arises due to side effects or a natural chain reaction. If your not that great with atomic warfare over water, I assume you could trigger a Tsunami or some such weather condition.

[No_not_like_Quake]

Voted 6 cos smart.

The world will prevail, humanity will also but will not learn from its mistakes, much like a gaming journalist scrub Takahashi.

[Zen]

https://youtu.be/zwvNbAqcSpk?t=22

Voted 2 on day-one and I'm sticking with.

Also, I see we have a vote for 1 and for 10 . Thats some black and white shit right there

[MX7]

I voted 7. Time to stock up on catfood, fetish gear and get a pink mohawk. Hoorah!

[gameoverDude]

40% on his job approval rating as of 23 September? Still a flunking mark, but I expected it to be lower.

[BryanM]

That's among registered voters. Because no rational person feels very energetic getting to pick between Mr.Burns and Mr.Smithers every 2 years, it's a little lower than that among the general population.

Same polls say he loses to Biden or Sanders 51 to 40 (the same polls that said Clinton would win the popular vote +3% and be a coin flip in the battlegrounds) - which is emblematic of how easy it is to win as a democrat. Just don't make anyone hate you, and you win the white house by default.

A trick the media does everything in its power to deny: Was just exposed to a 10 second clip from a Bill Maher millionaire discussion panel where a wretched vampire from Vanity called on us to ignore Sanders (the current shadow president) and that he was "a narcissistic old man". There could not possibly be a better Donald Trump ad.

[Joe T.]

I voted 7. Time to stock up on catfood, fetish gear and get a pink mohawk. Hoorah!

I'm gonna wait for the missiles to explode before I make any hair style choices.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FMEPSD9w0Y

[rancor]

8 with fingers crossed for some excitement. Anything to get off this work-home-work-home-work-home-work-home then die merry go round. I could use some excitement. Full on land invasion of Nippon would do nicely.

[Blinge]

Jesus i think to many people are reading the guardian articles or something.

Is this parody? I certainly hope so but i won't hold my breathe.

As enjoyable as it is to see you bleat about guardian readers like a broken record, it'll be good for your spelling to read something other than the daily heil, or anything really.

[Skykid]

China has ordered all North Korean firms and joint business ventures in the country to close in response to the UN sanctions and pressure to act from the rest of the globe to rein in UN FATZ.

China is really NK'a only trading partner, so this means all income to make new army men and toy nukes will just about vanish. Will FATZ have a tantrum and blow someone up, or go to his room sulking and decommission his nuclear arsenal?

Stay tuned!

[BIL]

I hope he gets held down and fucked beyond all surgery with a Soviet-era bayonet, the rusty blade jutting out of his blubbery FUPA. Fat cunt eating all the rice.