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Is that the Dutch kabeldirect shop?

I'm still looking for a good male-male RGB SCART cable to daisy chain my two gscart switches. Right now using a 1 meter QED and the quality is great, but it doesn't grip the scart switches as i would like the to (too loose).
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axlblazeadam wrote:Is that the Dutch kabeldirect shop?

I'm still looking for a good male-male RGB SCART cable to daisy chain my two gscart switches. Right now using a 1 meter QED and the quality is great, but it doesn't grip the scart switches as i would like the to (too loose).
https://kabeldirekt-store.de/ - this company made the cable but it's now discontinued as far as I understand. I purchased mine from Amazon.
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superg wrote:
axlblazeadam wrote:Is that the Dutch kabeldirect shop?

I'm still looking for a good male-male RGB SCART cable to daisy chain my two gscart switches. Right now using a 1 meter QED and the quality is great, but it doesn't grip the scart switches as i would like the to (too loose).
https://kabeldirekt-store.de/ - this company made the cable but it's now discontinued as far as I understand. I purchased mine from Amazon.
Got it, that's another company than the Dutch one. Thank you, just ordered one on Amazon too.
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Are these being re released (gscartsw_lite) , looking for some units. Any information would be greatly appreciated,,


thanks

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superg wrote:
Weiwei107 wrote:.. however, once everything was setup, there was no sound. i ordered a brandnew scart cable from amazon (kabeldirekt), extremely heavy duty feel so i dont know if it is that scart cable or the output port itself. have not start trial and error testing yet.... but just wanted to ask first in case it is something small or stupid I've missed.
KabelDirect makes very good SCART cables, RetroRGB is using them and he initially recommended them. Back to your audio question: SCART connector has input and output pins for audio, make sure it's connected to the right pins.
Also, more than once I've lost audio because one of my scart cables wasn't fully seated in the switch. Their common design of having the cable off to one side makes that same side susceptible to being pried up. And that's where all the audio pins are.
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DirkSwizzler wrote:
superg wrote:
Weiwei107 wrote:.. however, once everything was setup, there was no sound. i ordered a brandnew scart cable from amazon (kabeldirekt), extremely heavy duty feel so i dont know if it is that scart cable or the output port itself. have not start trial and error testing yet.... but just wanted to ask first in case it is something small or stupid I've missed.
KabelDirect makes very good SCART cables, RetroRGB is using them and he initially recommended them. Back to your audio question: SCART connector has input and output pins for audio, make sure it's connected to the right pins.
Also, more than once I've lost audio because one of my scart cables wasn't fully seated in the switch. Their common design of having the cable off to one side makes that same side susceptible to being pried up.
Agreed, the downside of the heavy duty cables with metal heads (like the KabelDirect and older Pakapunch cables) is the head is so heavy it pulls out of side mounted SCART ports, as on the Toro and Garo devices. In the past I usually put a shim between the table and scart head to support it and keeping it from pulling out one side or putting unnecessary strain on the port. Recently I replaced a few of those cables with the newer Packapunch cables that have the plastic enclosure. Those certainly dont look quite as nice or feel as premium but they stay put in the side mount devices much better.
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A note about the Kabeldirekt cables, I messaged retro_console_accessories about them once and have cut the cable to look inside, I'll post pics if anyone is interested.

Anyways, stick to the 6 foot length, 10 ft should be ok, 15 ft you might encounter problems, especially if using CVBS as sync (if you look on amazon the prices are telling, 6 ft $14 and 10 and 15ft are $6.39, though this undoubtedly also has to do with the massive bulk of suck a long, thick cable).

For individually shielded cables like r_c_a's mini coax or rgc's packapunch the ground is wrapped around the signal wire, so they are better over longer runs. In these there is a super thick outer rubber sleeve and the individual ground wires are grouped next to, but not around, the signal wire inside a smaller rubber sleeve. The audio lines are however separately shielded from the video lines, so these cables are still superior to standard male-male scart cables, plus they are very sturdy and the pins in the head are soldered, not crimped like almost all other cheap ones.

So in the end they should be fine at shorter lengths, especially with csync, but the video lines are not "individually shielded", so packapunch or mini coax are still the way to go for the absolute "best" quality (though in practice it probably doesn't make an appreciable difference).

Plus if you're patient and good with a soldering iron you can buy a 10ft cable for less than half the price and shorten it :)
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bigtime4life wrote:Are these being re released (gscartsw_lite) , looking for some units. Any information would be greatly appreciated,,
superg wrote:I ordered a new gscartsw_lite batch, a plenty of units, it's currently being manufactured, shouldn't be any issues this time.
I'll order some gcompsw's after this batch, that's the plan.
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Dopefish wrote:
bigtime4life wrote:Are these being re released (gscartsw_lite) , looking for some units. Any information would be greatly appreciated,,
superg wrote:I ordered a new gscartsw_lite batch, a plenty of units, it's currently being manufactured, shouldn't be any issues this time.
I'll order some gcompsw's after this batch, that's the plan.
I cannot wait, i hope i can get another this time. The dual scart outputs was an awesome update over the VGA IMO. And i definitely want a spare in case my original breaks for any reason.

My damn cats keep jumping on my TV stand and messing with it!! Gives a panic attack every time.
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Hello Superg
Thanks for your time and efforts in producing the Switch. I am wondering if you have a timeline to when we can order gscart_lite again.
Approximately.

Thanks
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magus90 wrote:My damn cats keep jumping on my TV stand and messing with it!! Gives a panic attack every time.
Get a cable box and put it in, should make it a bit safer? :]
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Dopefish wrote:
superg wrote:It looks beautiful but badly designed inside. Two lasers, one for gaming the other one for DVD / DVR stuff where latter constantly fails but it's needed for the initial recognition of PS2 game disc, not very handy.
The biggest worry is if the harddrive dies, and it becomes unusable :(
There is a (partial) solution. Mine dies six months ago. I have to replace to an original Sony 40GB HDD. Now I can boot to (with freeMCboot help) to DVD/CD or to OPL (HDD/Ethernet/USB). Besides the HDD problem also the special DESR FreeMCboot version makes console boot directly in PSX mode without using the fault DVD-RW laser.

But the original "XMB like" menu is lost forever.
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clintkolodziej wrote:Agreed, the downside of the heavy duty cables with metal heads (like the KabelDirect and older Pakapunch cables) is the head is so heavy it pulls out of side mounted SCART ports, as on the Toro and Garo devices. In the past I usually put a shim between the table and scart head to support it and keeping it from pulling out one side or putting unnecessary strain on the port. Recently I replaced a few of those cables with the newer Packapunch cables that have the plastic enclosure. Those certainly dont look quite as nice or feel as premium but they stay put in the side mount devices much better.
I bought two Sony male to male scart cables from beharbros and had the same problem. So inflexible that in short runs (1m) the cable disconnect over time. But looks like very well constructed (at least externally).

I think they don't have it anymore but is the same as this one in ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-SONY-S ... xyu4dRrFiY
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My gscartsw lite just arrived and got it working great with my Saturn. Great work superG , can't wait to scoop another one in the future
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Turns out the kabledirekt cables are so thick with high quality metal connector, it was seating well on the Gscart and that's why I didn't have sound, pushed it in all the way and wa-la! Sound!!! A bit of noise at first then nada. We golden !!! SuperG I am no happy with your creation. Thank you.
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Are those kabeldirect cables fully shielded on all lines? I remember someone stating they weren't when they opened them up.

In any case I am waiting on RCA to ship my fully shielded SCART male to male with that swag super saiyan scart connector to test my Gscart. No clue how long that will take as Hurricane Irma is running amok.


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I think ribbon SCART cables are the best when it comes to interference. But they are quite stiff which makes them harder to connect nicely. I have this cable https://goo.gl/cLzzGN from my gscart to my TV, really solid and out perform all my other SCART cables.
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hey superG while i was testing some PCB's out on my supergun my gscartsw lite shorted out somehow.. any way to repair this???
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So after trying a whole bunch of things, in my case the rgb-pi will not work on the gscartsw. I also don't get any audio so I figured it's not just a incorrect sync signal, wrong timings or whatever it could be.

I've heard from other people that it does work so I'm at a loss here.
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ChuChu Flamingo wrote:Are those kabeldirect cables fully shielded on all lines? I remember someone stating they weren't when they opened them up.
No, the four audio lines (L and R input and output) are grouped together and shielded from the video lines, but the video and sync lines are not individually shielded.
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Milspex wrote:So after trying a whole bunch of things, in my case the rgb-pi will not work on the gscartsw. I also don't get any audio so I figured it's not just a incorrect sync signal, wrong timings or whatever it could be.

I've heard from other people that it does work so I'm at a loss here.
Audio won't work if input isn't detected and the detection is based on sync.
RetroRGB borrowed me his rgb-pi and it worked on lite, I don't have my own.
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Any updates on when more lites are in stock? I live in MI myself and would pick one up if it were easier for you.
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oligarch wrote:Any updates on when more lites are in stock? I live in MI myself and would pick one up if it were easier for you.
I updated the first post.
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Any help appreciated please.

I have an RGB modded n64 going through the Gscartsw port 2 (latest model 3.2???) via RGB Scart (Luma Sync) into the framemeister. It produces a black screen and interference noise when plugged in . It does however work direct to framemeister (cutting out gscartsw).

i have also tested the n64 with my gamecube scart lead (comp as sync) also, again it works direct to framemeiister just not through gscartsw.

Ive tried it through different ports, also tried both cables through my gscartsw Lite (again no luck).

I have about 13 other consoles working nicely through both gscarts, but just not this one!

Thanks in advance
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amb47uk wrote:Any help appreciated please.

I have an RGB modded n64 going through the Gscartsw port 2 (latest model 3.2???) via RGB Scart (Luma Sync) into the framemeister. It produces a black screen and interference noise when plugged in . It does however work direct to framemeister (cutting out gscartsw).

i have also tested the n64 with my gamecube scart lead (comp as sync) also, again it works direct to framemeiister just not through gscartsw.

Ive tried it through different ports, also tried both cables through my gscartsw Lite (again no luck).

I have about 13 other consoles working nicely through both gscarts, but just not this one!

Thanks in advance
It depends on a mod used. One warning is that TTL without resistor will fry the switch sync multiplexer. I have yet to mod my N64 with viletims N64 board and report the results but still have to allocate some time for that.
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superg wrote:
amb47uk wrote:Any help appreciated please.

I have an RGB modded n64 going through the Gscartsw port 2 (latest model 3.2???) via RGB Scart (Luma Sync) into the framemeister. It produces a black screen and interference noise when plugged in . It does however work direct to framemeister (cutting out gscartsw).

i have also tested the n64 with my gamecube scart lead (comp as sync) also, again it works direct to framemeiister just not through gscartsw.

Ive tried it through different ports, also tried both cables through my gscartsw Lite (again no luck).

I have about 13 other consoles working nicely through both gscarts, but just not this one!

Thanks in advance
It depends on a mod used. One warning is that TTL without resistor will fry the switch sync multiplexer. I have yet to mod my N64 with viletims N64 board and report the results but still have to allocate some time for that.
So my n64 could potentially damage the gscart?

Im not sure what mod it was bought on ebay a while ago, I seem to recall it used to work through the gscart? (though i cant be certain). The fact it wont work on both my gscarts is a shame.

Has anyone got one working on this??
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amb47uk wrote:
superg wrote:
amb47uk wrote:Any help appreciated please.

I have an RGB modded n64 going through the Gscartsw port 2 (latest model 3.2???) via RGB Scart (Luma Sync) into the framemeister. It produces a black screen and interference noise when plugged in . It does however work direct to framemeister (cutting out gscartsw).

i have also tested the n64 with my gamecube scart lead (comp as sync) also, again it works direct to framemeiister just not through gscartsw.

Ive tried it through different ports, also tried both cables through my gscartsw Lite (again no luck).

I have about 13 other consoles working nicely through both gscarts, but just not this one!

Thanks in advance
It depends on a mod used. One warning is that TTL without resistor will fry the switch sync multiplexer. I have yet to mod my N64 with viletims N64 board and report the results but still have to allocate some time for that.
So my n64 could potentially damage the gscart?

Im not sure what mod it was bought on ebay a while ago, I seem to recall it used to work through the gscart? (though i cant be certain). The fact it wont work on both my gscarts is a shame.

Has anyone got one working on this??
Modded N64 usually is fine, I don't get many reports of it not working. I haven't looked myself into the details yet so I can't say for sure which mods are good. Maybe some users can tell us what works for them.
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I recently received my gscartw lite - thanks superg for the quick delivery and great product.

I have run into a bit of a problem that I could use some help with. I would like to convert one of the SCART outputs to connect to the component input on my capture device. I thought I could achieve this with a cheap adapter (like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/3820383982 ... dispItem=1) but it will not work. After testing on my capture device and another TV, with the switch in both positions, neither works.

However, with a similar cheap composite adapter, it does work. (this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-Pcs-CESS-RGB- ... Sw5cNYZFRR)

I'm guessing there is a specific converter I would need to have in order for this to function, but I'm not sure what it is. I'm not very well-versed in this stuff, so my apologies if this is a dumb question.
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wheelable wrote:I have run into a bit of a problem that I could use some help with. I would like to convert one of the SCART outputs to connect to the component input on my capture device. I thought I could achieve this with a cheap adapter (like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/3820383982 ... dispItem=1) but it will not work. After testing on my capture device and another TV, with the switch in both positions, neither works.

...

I'm guessing there is a specific converter I would need to have in order for this to function, but I'm not sure what it is. I'm not very well-versed in this stuff, so my apologies if this is a dumb question.
While component has the same number of cables and the same plug coloring scheme as those passive adapters. The signal format is not the same. You want an RGB to "YPbPr"/"YUV" converter box.

This one seems to work fine for me. But I only use it for testing so my quality threshold isn't very high for it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-SCART-RGB-t ... yF2RvMlcww
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If you care about the quality, get the SB-2840. It's only a bit more expensive, but the quality of the signal is considerably higher than the eBay one. (I got the eBay one and later upgraded to the Shinybow. :))
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