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GQDang wrote:So sad I missed it after lurking for months. Was busy moving this weekend. :( A gscart lite is litterly the last thing I need for my setup. Good luck to all again on the next run of gscart lites.
Don't worry, there will be more soon :)
superg wrote:I'm sorry for that, I will be ordering more next week, no more pre-orders, will fund it myself.
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Before the the remaining units where put on sale this thread focused on daisy chaining the gcompsw and the gscartsw together. Once I get a gcompsw I'll be confronted with this problem as well. I do have the impression there hasn't a conclusion been drawn how to solve this yet. Would it be possible for the gcompsw to send out some sync signal on the composite port once it's activated? That would make things simpler, however a special scart adapter (component & composite combined) would be needed. But it seems like they already exist:
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gordon-creAtive wrote:Before the the remaining units where put on sale this thread focused on daisy chaining the gcompsw and the gscartsw together. Once I get a gcompsw I'll be confronted with this problem as well. I do have the impression there hasn't a conclusion been drawn how to solve this yet. Would it be possible for the gcompsw to send out some sync signal on the composite port once it's activated? That would make things simpler, however a special scart adapter (component & composite combined) would be needed. But it seems like they already exist:
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Get a Framemeister and put the gcompsw into the D terminal, the gscartsw_lite into the RGB in and HDMI from the Framemeister to the TV, simple.
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I only have CRT's, I don't have and don't plan on getting a Framemeister and I want it to switch automatically.
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gordon-creAtive wrote:Before the the remaining units where put on sale this thread focused on daisy chaining the gcompsw and the gscartsw together. Once I get a gcompsw I'll be confronted with this problem as well. I do have the impression there hasn't a conclusion been drawn how to solve this yet. Would it be possible for the gcompsw to send out some sync signal on the composite port once it's activated? That would make things simpler, however a special scart adapter (component & composite combined) would be needed. But it seems like they already exist:
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Just wire Luma (Y) to component sync in that adapter you mention and you will have it detected and forwarded. The real problem though is connecting both RGBS and component to your TV at the same time (RGBS and YPbPr are shared on gscartsw).
Here they were talking more about proper YPbPr -> RGBS conversion (or vice versa, too lazy to check)
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superg wrote: Just wire Luma (Y) to component sync in that adapter you mention and you will have it detected and forwarded. The real problem though is connecting both RGBS and component to your TV at the same time (RGBS and YPbPr are shared on gscartsw).
I don't think that is problem exclusive to the gscartsw since Component and RGB share pins on Scart anyway. Haven't thought about that unfortunately...

Won't there be issues when I split a video output like eg. brightness decrease?
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gordon-creAtive wrote: Won't there be issues when I split a video output like eg. brightness decrease?
Only if two outputs are active simultaneously.
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Dammit, i missed out. Bummer :(

Here's to hoping i get one in following months lol I already have one thank god, but wanted a spare in case this one breaks.
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Damn, missed on preorders. Is the store page the best page to refresh to try to order when the extra units are completed?
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lol that went fast! :D
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superg wrote:
gordon-creAtive wrote: Won't there be issues when I split a video output like eg. brightness decrease?
Only if two outputs are active simultaneously.
I got lost...

I was under the impression that you could use the two outputs on the lite to two different display at the same time (one to a crt and the other to an ossc for example)... but this would decrease brightness on both displays??? or is there something I'm getting wrong??
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geaslwo wrote:
I will consider more gcompsw's, the demand is low for these.
No plans for new developments at this point, I have to catch up on real life.
Posting to show my interest in a gcompsw.
+1 for gcompsw, need one or two really badly.
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naz wrote:
superg wrote:
gordon-creAtive wrote: Won't there be issues when I split a video output like eg. brightness decrease?
Only if two outputs are active simultaneously.
I got lost...

I was under the impression that you could use the two outputs on the lite to two different display at the same time (one to a crt and the other to an ossc for example)... but this would decrease brightness on both displays??? or is there something I'm getting wrong??
You asked "if you split" which I understood like you'll split it yourself.
There is no brightness decrease when utilizing two gscartsw outputs simultaneously.
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Just wanted to show my interest for a gcompsw as well (and another gscart because I missed them :( )!
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HalfCent wrote:Just wanted to show my interest for a gcompsw as well (and another gscart because I missed them :( )!
gcompsw as well, hopefully, there are still enough people wanting one to warant another batch.
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superg wrote:You asked "if you split" which I understood like you'll split it yourself.
There is no brightness decrease when utilizing two gscartsw outputs simultaneously.
I think this came from your original statement:
superg wrote:Just wire Luma (Y) to component sync in that adapter you mention and you will have it detected and forwarded.
If you split the luma signal to both the luma and cvbs pins, this will reduce the brightness of the luma. In order to avoid the brightness loss, you would have to remove luma from the luma pin, put it only to the cvbs pin, and then use a custom output adapter that routes cvbs back to luma.
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lavignep wrote:
HalfCent wrote:Just wanted to show my interest for a gcompsw as well (and another gscart because I missed them :( )!
gcompsw as well, hopefully, there are still enough people wanting one to warant another batch.
I'd be up for a second revision with more inputs, dual output, and TOSLINK.
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nmalinoski wrote:
lavignep wrote:
HalfCent wrote:Just wanted to show my interest for a gcompsw as well (and another gscart because I missed them :( )!
gcompsw as well, hopefully, there are still enough people wanting one to warant another batch.
I'd be up for a second revision with more inputs, dual output, and TOSLINK.
I posted this question earlier, but did not get an answer.

Is it even possible, in a cost effective manner, to include amplified dual output in a component switcher? If so, I'd be down with pre-ordering one.
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I really need a second gscart for my setup, so was frustrating that they once again got sold out so fast. However, I just wanted to say that all in all i am happy you are still making these, mine has worked perfectly since i got it. Hope to see another batch go up soon!
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juanjuan wrote: Is it even possible, in a cost effective manner, to include amplified dual output in a component switcher? If so, I'd be down with pre-ordering one.
It is possible but as I've said earlier I want to take a break from all the development for a bit. Every revision requires an enormous amount of time to design, discuss and debug before it can be manufactured and I want to catch up on the other things. No new developments this year.
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superg wrote:
juanjuan wrote: Is it even possible, in a cost effective manner, to include amplified dual output in a component switcher? If so, I'd be down with pre-ordering one.
It is possible but as I've said earlier I want to take a break from all the development for a bit. Every revision requires an enormous amount of time to design, discuss and debug before it can be manufactured and I want to catch up on the other things. No new developments this year.
Excellent; great to hear this could be implemented once/if you have time and energy in the future.

Thanks for your response and for putting together these switches.
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superg wrote:It is possible but as I've said earlier I want to take a break from all the development for a bit. Every revision requires an enormous amount of time to design, discuss and debug before it can be manufactured and I want to catch up on the other things. No new developments this year.
No even RGsB adapter this year? :mrgreen:
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Anyone here able to help set up a mailing list for this?
Seriously it's kinda ridiculous having to check a forum every time a message is posted, a huge waste of time. I will pay the service fee for you if you want, it would just be nice to have a professional notification system for this.

Anyone able to help superg with this?
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umi wrote:Anyone here able to help set up a mailing list for this?
Seriously it's kinda ridiculous having to check a forum every time a message is posted, a huge waste of time. I will pay the service fee for you if you want, it would just be nice to have a professional notification system for this.

Anyone able to help superg with this?
Not quite what you're asking for. But just watch RetroRGB's weekly roundup. The news section is usually 20 minutes or less. The last preorders were up long enough to get coverage (I'm pretty sure, my memory is crap).
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Is there no hope of there being another JP21 run?
I'd kill for a JP21 switch :(
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Well, you don't need to kill anyone, you can solder one for yourself.
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Or, you could switch to EUROSCART. Ho ho ho. Sorry, couldn't resist.
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superg wrote:I will consider more gcompsw's, the demand is low for these.
No plans for new developments at this point, I have to catch up on real life.
I think the reason demand might be low, is because there's very cheap alternatives available for 4 input (or less) component switchers. It's much harder to come by 8 input switchers like the Pelican System Selector Pro, or Shinybow SB-5588 8x8 matrix switch. Extron matrix switchers are always an alternative, but they're big, bulky and all the cable adapters increase the cost significantly.

There's already been a few in this topic showing interest for more component switchers (especially ones with more inputs), so give it some thoughts when you find some time :]
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There aren't any other good automatic/powered component switchers, or at least, Ste has indicated that every single one he's looked at apart from the gcompsw was badly designed. All you're left with is decent manual pushbutton unpowered switchers.
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Guspaz wrote:There aren't any other good automatic/powered component switchers, or at least, Ste has indicated that every single one he's looked at was badly designed. All you're left with is decent manual pushbutton unpowered switchers.
This is of course true, but unlike the SCART counter-parts, component switches seems to have generally good quality for the video signals, so it's a steep premium to pay for just automatic switching of only 4 inputs.

If you'd need 8 inputs or more, you'd have to daisy chain 3x gcompsw for $300, and it would take up alot more space aswell.
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