Sumez wrote:Did you check Discogs? I've yet to come across a record I could find at a decent price there. Whenever I've been to physical markets etc. with this kinda music, Cleopatra releases especially seem to be all over the place at discount prices, it really feels like they overproduced, and many distros had a hard time getting rid of their stock.
I've heard people talk about YelworC being "rare" before, but both Blood in Face and the 2-disc collection, which are the two I own, seem to be pretty cheap on Discogs. They were probably a lot harder to find back when I originally got them. Old casette self-releases is a different subject, but that goes for pretty much any band ever.
I do use Discoggs yes. But to be honest my buying days are mostly inactive Industrial music wise.
The JR: Gang War album can be found here, there are two copies up for sale:
https://www.discogs.com/James-Rays-Gang ... ase/519611
They also have some yelworC stuff up too to give a couple of examples.
But they have only 1 copy of Proceed – Fehlgesteuert priced at euro 29:
https://www.discogs.com/Proceed-Fehlges ... ase/842031
As a rule, it was easier and less costly to simply buy all the decent Industrial when it was released. I really miss the good old days of Nightbreed Records - they had loads and loads of decent stuff and it was not too expensive but they closed shop in the early 2000s.
Cleopatra was kind of akin to Metropolis these days - they had many, many bands on the label and they served kind of as releaser for a lot of stuff that was hard to get elsewhere. Any PIG fans will remember sending Money-Orders to oosaka in the late 90s to PIG's japanese label. It was nearly impossible to get a lot of stuff back then so in a way Cleopatra kind of did us all a favour.
Wrt 'getting rid of stock": yes, it is all a risk, which why production counts tend to be "enough to make it affordable but not much else" - which is why I buy Industrial quickly. I live in Germany and I am surrounded by Industrial but I never had a problem living in the UK finding it either, but I knew where to look
Yes, yelworC are a funny one: before they did that compilation with the live tracks - the 2CD one, it was all on tape and harder to get. Personally, I never took tape seriously after about the age of 13 as I liked, and still do like, CD.
One thing is for sure though: yelworC was of its age: nasty stuff at silly BPM
I love it. Industrial these days is shite in comparison. It was amazing what could be done on an Amiga/atari STE back then, a few samplers, Synths and a drum machine
I have seen yelworC live a few times. They used to be ok but are not really that impressive live - a common issue with most electronic bands I find.
I have the compilation 2CD and the "Blood in Face" EP myself.
I dare say you own it but if you do not I shall tell you about one of my favourite albums: Haujobb's "Homes & Gardens" - very, very dense industrial. And I bet you have Skinny-Puppy's "Too Dark Park"?
Here's a track from Homes & Gardens:
Spot the SciFi/Horror film sample game begins here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66fSLUh2-Fw
I cannot count the number of Horror films I found through Industrial music
Worlock may be the best example by SP.
You got me thinking now: Leatherstrip is decent - I have all the original albums. To me, and he is one of your countrymen
he is very decent. I like the album "Underneath the Laughter" and "Solitary Confinemnet" but "Self Inflicted" is a very good album too.
Klaus makes some fairly potent stuff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG1j6xgujPc
Presently in Germany we have Wumpscut and many say he is the creator of this darker type of Industrial. To my ear, it was Klaus who was there first, made stronger music and indeed Wumpscut notes that Klaus was an inspiration for him.
I kind of grew up with Front 242, die Krupps, Skinny-Puppy, yelworC, Das Ich, Nitzer-Ebb, Orange-Sector and one or two others. But once the dance industrial thing came in I went right back to the older sound.
I never get excited by a guy with a Mac Book on stage pressing "play". So I tend to prefer seeing traditional bands live - Bolt-Thrower are very good live for example.
Anyway, glad to see you are into Industrial - I have only met a handful of people who know yelworC.
Here's one for you: do you know the band "Sleep Walk"? Same label as yelworC but crazy stuff. Another would be Morgue-Mechanism. Anyway, we will be here all day if we get into old-industrial
Cheers.
Though what i like from that style, it's raw energy from those "distorted drum machine rhythms", yeah.
Although looking at the prices online, they're not terribly expensive... hmm!
