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bobrocks95 wrote:I saw a person with worse hardware than you saying they were running Dragon's Dogma at a near-locked 144 fps. As I argued with ZellSF, such is PC gaming.
No you argued that there was a lot of tweaking required per game. There isn't. The only tweak that is recommended for The Evil Within is to disable its shitty framerate limiter. There are no recommendations for Bayonetta.

evil_ash_xero: what you should do is settle on a global sync setting: go to NVIDIA Control Panel, Manage 3D Settings and try every Vertical sync option to see which you prefer. If you think framerate drops are too brutal you probably have vsync on and should set it to adaptive.

If you don't mind going more complicated and want the best experience, you should try to see if you like triple buffering, either forced through D3DOverrider (I think it's 32-bit and DX9 only) or running games in borderless window mode which forces Window's own v-sync + triple buffer implementation by default. You should also experiment with how framerate limiters affect your experience.

I never said PC gaming was easy, but this is a thing you set once and forget it. I just said you should never have to tweak a lot of stuff per game. Well I actually think PC gaming is easy, if you get yourself a FreeSync or G-Sync monitor so you don't have to deal with the mess I described above.

Did you specify your monitor resolution? Sort of hard to tell if your performance is normal without that information.
I always build myself but it can be hell if something goes wrong... say your PC randomly freezes, how do you know which component to return, RAM, GPU, CPU, Motherboard? Send the wrong bit back and they charge you for testing it and returning it again. I've been in that situation a couple times and it's not fun.
Every PC hardware issue I've had have been so intermittent and random that sending it back to the manufacturer would guaranteed end up with "can't reproduce, wiped software, try again".

Prebuilt PCs are if you want to save some effort putting it together, but I would not get one for support and I would not expect one to use the best parts. Though if you want to spend a couple hundred dollars for not having to put things together yourself, I think that's perfectly normal. It's hardly worse than a lot of the shit I (or anyone here) spends money on.
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Right now I can't even launch Sonic Generations because it just tells me to run the configuration tool over and over.

I was saying PC gaming requires a lot of tweaking, not necessarily per-game. I already corrected you on this, sorry that you take sentences incredibly literally.

The fact that you have to configure anything at all puts PC gaming in a completely different league from console gaming. That's all there is to it. See the large paragraph describing VSync above with 3 external links for an example of this.
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BuckoA51 wrote:Are you using the Geforce experience thingy that Nvidia do? Try the recommended settings for Bayonetta see what it does.
GeForce experience is generally pretty nice: it has a bunch of knowledge about how the game will perform on your GPU/CPU combo, and in most cases the recommended settings will work pretty well, and if you want a bit more speed or a bit more quality, it gives you a slider you can push up or down to change the settings taking into account which changes have the biggest impact on performance. It automates a lot of the manual tweaking away, which is really nice.

The problem is that it doesn't support every game (which makes sense due to the amount of work it takes to add support for each new game).
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BuckoA51 wrote:Are you using the Geforce experience thingy that Nvidia do? Try the recommended settings for Bayonetta see what it does.
I am. I'll use that. I can't get Metal Gear Rising to run at a solid 60fps.
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Wasn't Rising the game that defaulted to 24p instead of 60Hz once a monitor was connected through HDMI ? I think Konami never fixed it, but instead there was a community created patch available to fix it.
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Fudoh wrote:Wasn't Rising the game that defaulted to 24p instead of 60Hz once a monitor was connected through HDMI ? I think Konami never fixed it, but instead there was a community created patch available to fix it.
I tried a patch called "Force Fix", but it didn't do anything.

Although, once I optimized it in GeForce, I can run it at 1080, without it running in the 40fps territory. It's closer to 60. Still, it does drop to the early 50s, at times.
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https://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Metal_Gea ... evengeance
Incorrect refresh rate or resolution on HDMI monitors stuck at 1080p24 / 1080i60Link

If the game can't be set to run in a Windowed mode, then download this configuration file. Extract GraphicOption in the configuration file(s) location.

Instructions[citation needed]

Go to the Options menu, and select Graphic Options, then set the Window Mode to Window.
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I had no idea this game got ported to OSX. Interesting.
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bobrocks95 wrote:Right now I can't even launch Sonic Generations because it just tells me to run the configuration tool over and over.

I was saying PC gaming requires a lot of tweaking, not necessarily per-game. I already corrected you on this, sorry that you take sentences incredibly literally.

The fact that you have to configure anything at all puts PC gaming in a completely different league from console gaming. That's all there is to it. See the large paragraph describing VSync above with 3 external links for an example of this.
PC gaming can really be as complicated (or easy) as you want it to be. The things about vsync I listed above was for advanced users who wanted to go a bit complicated. Most people don't give a shit about any of it and it's certainly not required.

Reducing complications (buying a huge SSD, buying a G-Sync monitor) gets you a better experience without adding complication. Just like buying a better GPU can save you time on tweaking graphic settings.
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I think the Evil Within jittery-ness is semi-common. At 60fps, anyways.

I've found a number of threads and videos on it, but no links to any fixes.
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evil_ash_xero wrote:I think the Evil Within jittery-ness is semi-common. At 60fps, anyways.

I've found a number of threads and videos on it, but no links to any fixes.
Have you tried disabling the framerate limiter as I mentioned?

https://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/The_Evil_ ... frame_rate

It might give you some other issues, but if it fixes the performance the other issues might be easily solvable.
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