Prelude to the Apocalypse

[quash]

Should just rename it to "miserable old people dislike modernity + regurgitate 30 years of centre-right propaganda"
Doesn't have the same ring to it tho

For all the talk I hear from leftists about how "this isn't what our forefathers fought for", it seems awfully conceited to dismiss what our forefathers actually think.

Granted, there is something to say for being bitter over current affairs not matching your vision of what they should be, but keep in mind that while people our age grandstand over having defeated Nazis on Twitter, these people actually fought against them. They know firsthand what things were like back then and how ruthless that war was. For them to say that they would have rather lost a war (let alone that war) speaks volumes.

I realize you probably won't change your mind on this, but I hope you don't try to moralize over others being on the wrong side of history if this is the stance you're taking.

On that note, I take back what I said about The Onion. In fact, they may just be the only real journalists left.

[quash]

The rule in America is that we change the subject to White Christian crime whenever a Muslim does Muslim things.

I don't think that's quite the same thing as asking "would it be fair to condemn all white Christians for a similar act in the way we're often tempted to condemn all Muslims for one"; obviously some folks, yourself seemingly included, believe that Muslims are so irreparably different from us that we need to apply a completely different set of rules to them than we do to ourselves, and we hashed that one out for some time earlier in the thread, but once you're unwilling to even make the comparison because it's too "politically correct" (or "anti-white") you're in an even dodgier intellectual and ethical space.

This is reminding me of a recent "study" that found that those ever-so-well-defined right wing extremists have killed more people in the US than Islamic terrorists since September 12, 2001.

You can only lie by omission so many times before even the dumbest of people start to catch on. Indeed, a few years from now, you'll be standing among even fewer allies than you do now, while the rest of us will be wondering how such a deceitful ideology ever got this far to begin with.

[BryanM]

ever-so-well-defined right wing extremists

See? They use a weaselly, ill-defined word like "terrorist" all the time to demonize some group, then get mad when you use it to describe the white supremacist murdering the shit out of black people in a church. "No!" they cry like small children, fists in bundles, "that's OUR word to slander people! You're not allowed to use it!"

That's why we grown ups use words like "murderer" instead of being propagandist tools. God forbid we don't use language engineered to propagate their wars of rent seeking.

Tom Cruise is never leaving his cult, neither will these guys as long as penises larger than theirs exist in this cruel, inequitable penis world.

[quash]

"Terrorist" is actually a very well defined term. Try again.

I feel like I've said this before (no doubt because you keep projecting), but I have no problems there, believe me.

[Blinge]

For all the talk I hear from leftists about how "this isn't what our forefathers fought for", it seems awfully conceited to dismiss what our forefathers actually think.

Granted, there is something to say for being bitter over current affairs not matching your vision of what they should be, but keep in mind that while people our age grandstand over having defeated Nazis on Twitter, these people actually fought against them.

They are claiming to have fought against them, they probably did but we don't know for certain. They are being quoted by a man with his own agenda in order to publish a book for that agenda / monetary gain. They're being further reduced and quoted by the daily mail; cancer in tabloid form masquerading as real news. (For right-bias news I go for Telegraph, at least they don't routinely insult the intelligence of their audience).
That's too many layers of separation for me to take this seriously mr quashypants.
You know who can grandstand about bringing the fight to nazis? Antifa.

My forebear sure as shit didn't have such views either.

Also so much of the past glory nationalist rhetoric overplays the gratitude for those who "chose to lay down their lives" etc, the noble themes of choice and sacrifice are always abundant.
Cause y'know.. conscription wasn't a thing...
Let's call a spade a spade.

One more thing, the people that grandstand most about defeating Nazis, past military victories for Britain are morons like the english defence league & football hoolidans ffs.

[Mischief Maker]

Five myths about why the South seceded

Look, I'll buy my shoes, videogames and coffee from Jeff Bezos, but I'm not about to get my history from him. I'd sooner cite Wikipedia as a source.

Bezos acquired the Washington Post in 2013. That article is from 2011.

I await your next excuse.

Slavery was incredibly profitable for the human traffickers in the South.

Funny how as soon as the Union as well as local Southern merchant ships blockaded the exporting of cotton from the South, they had nothing to show for all the slave labor they had. You'd think with all those slaves that shat money, they'd have been just fine.

Now you're intentionally playing dumb. Qatar makes a shitload of money off oil exports, but if a military blockade cut off the oil trade, they'd be fucked. Does that mean Qatar is abandoning oil?

Let me see if I can make this incredibly complex economic principle understandable. Okay, when you pay your workers a salary for the product they produce, the cost of those salaries is deducted from your profit. If you enslave people and force them to work for nothing because you say they're less than human, there are no salary costs to deduct from your profit. Less costs = more profit.

And explain to me why an enslaved person can't be relocated by their captors from picking cotton in a field to tightening screws on an assembly line?

Because the North didn't want them and the South didn't start building most of its factories until after the war started.

Again, I don't see why the south's economic vulnerability in wartime translates to voluntary divestment had it been peacetime instead.

The south fought for money.

Yes, but they also fought for autonomy.

And they also fought for sexual gratification. Don't forget that part! There's a reason African Americans have lighter skin than African immigrants.

I don't doubt they intended to keep slavery for some time,

Lee's willingness to betray and murder his fellow United States soldiers does indicate that, yes.

but that would have changed the moment the North started cucking them on cotton exports (people seem to forget that they had cotton fields as well) and they would have had to industrialize to compete (textile mills of the time were estimated to be 3-5 times more productive than slave labor at a lower cost).

And again I ask, if they were going to be forced to industrialize, why would that necessarily lead to emancipation? Why can't you build a factory then chain enslaved human beings to the assembly line? The Nazis did it.

[Rob]

a publication that exists only to tease gutter-tier nationalism out from the plebs.

The only thing needed to "tease out" nationalism in England is your non-native population and their behavior, and the fact that you've lost your capital city.

[Rob]

I don't think that's quite the same thing as asking "would it be fair to condemn all white Christians for a similar act in the way we're often tempted to condemn all Muslims for one"; obviously some folks, yourself seemingly included, believe that Muslims are so irreparably different from us that we need to apply a completely different set of rules to them than we do to ourselves, and we hashed that one out for some time earlier in the thread, but once you're unwilling to even make the comparison because it's too "politically correct" (or "anti-white") you're in an even dodgier intellectual and ethical space.

Like it or not, groups matter, especially when they adhere to a belief system that frequently (as in every month) results in outbursts of violence. This is not a problem with Christianity. To pretend it is is completely dishonest. The reason "we're often tempted to condemn all Muslims" is because there is an easily identifiable trend of horrendous behavior. They as a group are clearly exceptional in their corrosiveness - not only because of their most vile and shocking offenses, but because they make all immigrants look worse. They are a net loss.

Yet whenever a Muslim takes a dump wrong anywhere on the planet, Europe, Zimbabwe, Pluto, we have to hear about it.

"Taking a dump" = plowing into pedestrians, stabbing rampage, rape gangs.

[GaijinPunch]

But that is just the thing: you are rearranging the context of their time to fit our own. Back then, it fucking mattered what state you lived in because families were closer (both geographically and otherwise), that was where the land your family owned was, etc. It was much harder to uproot and go elsewhere than it is today.

That's the whole point of learning from your mistakes.

[Blinge]

the fact that you've lost your capital city.

Believe it or not, I thought you were better than this.

Unless you mean the hundreds of properties owned as investments and left empty by foreign & domestic billionaires, while thousands of people live on the streets or burn alive in shitty accommodation, then sure, that's a lost city.

Anyway rob your hatred of immigration is odd - if they behaved like perfect angels and the only violence ever came from american christians you'd probably still find a reason to want them out.

[Obscura]

Let me see if I can make this incredibly complex economic principle understandable. Okay, when you pay your workers a salary for the product they produce, the cost of those salaries is deducted from your profit. If you enslave people and force them to work for nothing because you say they're less than human, there are no salary costs to deduct from your profit. Less costs = more profit.

And, because they're slaves, they have little incentive to work hard (since they can't get promotions or raises or get ahead in any way), which means they're less productive. Lower productivity = lower revenue.

You also have to take care of housing and feeding for slaves. That's a cost that you lose when you switch to actual workers, and you get more revenue in the bargain.

Slavery only was a thing because there wasn't enough citizen population in the South to work the fields. It's generally inferior as an economic system. The roots of slavery in antiquity were actually as a gesture of mercy, not an economic tool; instead of killing opposing armies (which no one really likes to do), they could enslave them, giving them something they could parade around back home to show off their victory while still sparing the lives of the defeated.

[Blinge]

The roots of slavery in antiquity were actually as a gesture of mercy, not an economic tool; instead of killing opposing armies (which no one really likes to do), they could enslave them, giving them something they could parade around back home to show off their victory while still sparing the lives of the defeated.

Well this is highly questionable. And even if it were true the example does not apply to America at all

[Mischief Maker]

And, because they're slaves, they have little incentive to work hard (since they can't get promotions or raises or get ahead in any way), which means they're less productive.

he then told us he would teach us a lesson we never would forget; he then ordered us to the barn, where in his presence, we were tied firmly to posts by a Mr. Gwin, our overseer, who was ordered by Gen. Lee to strip us to the waist and give us fifty lashes each, excepting my sister, who received but twenty; we were accordingly stripped to the skin by the overseer, who, however, had sufficient humanity to decline whipping us; accordingly Dick Williams, a county constable was called in, who gave us the number of lashes ordered; Gen. Lee, in the meantime, stood by, and frequently enjoined Williams to "lay it on well," an injunction which he did not fail to heed; not satisfied with simply lacerating our naked flesh, Gen. Lee then ordered the overseer to thoroughly wash our backs with brine, which was done.

Warning: Disturbing

Spoiler

[Obscura]

The roots of slavery in antiquity were actually as a gesture of mercy, not an economic tool; instead of killing opposing armies (which no one really likes to do), they could enslave them, giving them something they could parade around back home to show off their victory while still sparing the lives of the defeated.

Well this is highly questionable. And even if it were true the example does not apply to America at all

The point is that slavery has never been a desirable economic model for any nation. It's either something you do to avoid having to do something more unpleasant (killing people on the battlefield), or it's an absolute last resort where you have to import labor because there aren't enough people locally to work the fields.

[Mischief Maker]

Aww! The poor dears. Profiting from the icky system of human slavery and building themselves huge mansions. Martyrs even!

Lets build some statues to celebrate them, especially the ones who spilled the most blood from United States servicemen during their totally justified act of treason!

[Xyga]

I'm not sure what the point is to dehumanize yourself and face to bloodshed just to focus on subjugating one group of human garbage out of the many already being tolerated by the public, from copyright trolls to the bourgeoisie enabling American imperialism. Heck, these neo-nazis don't even commit that many actual crimes in the grand scale, the only reason they get so much attention is because of their cartoonish motivations and the media sensation they provide. Consider that their goals are woefully unrealistic and unachievable through either democratic or revolutionary means, as the majority of voters today will never possibly agree to straight-up unfettered natsoc ideals and the circumstances aren't right at all for any kind of revolution to happen. And they don't have the power to forcibly enact their ideals either. We're talking about a bunch of internet tough guys around 20 years old who got brainwashed on the internet. Most of them only wish they could handle themselves in a fight. Even the tough guy skinhead figurehead who appeared in the VICE documentary earlier on got reduced to a pile of blubber and tears after the world came crashing down around him with a frightening efficiency.

The only thing they're doing in their protests is yelling at clouds, as nothing they want to see changed will realistically happen in the foreseeable future. If they were to get violent en masse the police would crack them down HARD, but since they are largely unorganized most attacks are carried out by loners or not at all. The actual threat they pose is minimal, or at least would be if people didn't spend so much effort into stating the obvious by saying we should be disgusted by them through huge massive protests, when that effort could have also been spent on organizing people against actual evils which are not so obvious. The white supremacist movement does create a large amount of brainwashed subjects, though most hypnotism manuals I've read don't mention ostracization and humiliation as viable cures. The only kind of people who do the latter are those with no patience and willpower left and are probably creditfeeders as well.

What frightens me about this the most is the outright dehumanization involved which acts as fuel for these counter-protests. The formalization of the idea that 'anything goes' against people who disrespect everything you hold dear is bound to set a dangerous precedent for the future which can backfire in many ways like this where people justify their actions with the idea that the others are elves because they do the same anyways. Literally JRPG villain-tier.

Any society functions by drawing a line between what's acceptable or not, but enforcing those standards with an unwavering absolutism has a tendency for that same absolutism to be replicated in many other ugly ways.

They're the ones who crossed the line in these recent years by enough miles to say it's time again to fight back and seriously so. The nazi started from scratch after all, why wait? I admire your confidence that it won't happen again. Democracy, freedom don't automatically magically freeze the wave before it crashes on us and all is lost and fucking millions of people die. Either we choose our camp and fight or we accept to get buttfucked by nazis, commies, and religious fanatics, then all people like ethnic~religious minorities, sexual, political and economic hop on the trains to camps! yeppee!
Really there's no talking this out with these people, you may think they're just harmless idiots, I don't. The level of insult they represent is already doing tons of damage, that trumputin campaign gave them an immense boost everywhere and not just in America and Europe, the internet's flooded with their mad rhetoric and it spreads, keeps spreading and will likely continue to do so if we don't do shit.
I'm especially disgusted to go to my favourite place on the interwebs and see they're fucking here, teenage-brained manchildren would-be aryan christian terminator-intellectuals, holding youtube science truth, crybabies unable to deal with society, humanity and its many differences and challenges, they measure skulls, vomit their hypocrite troll shit and conspiracy lies, the civil language doesn't hide that they're lashing out raging on everything their tiny brains are frustrated with and wishing people they deem inferior beings will suffer, and it's fun to torment them, for the psychos they are.
The most immense joke is that they invoke freedom all the time. Yeah, the same freedom ISIS, commies or any kind of promoters of criminal authoritarian regimes claim the loudest.
And then, well, it's a beautiful day and you're here loging-in in a good mood, devising games and machines whatever, and bam they're also here posting, and you know minutes ago X or Y guy was posting racist and bat shit stuff over here in this thread that's impossible to miss and ignore, or other threads in the past that have been in the same vein. You thought you were in good company but it's like don't worry, be nazi is playing in the background whevener you visit, and it's louder every time.

Fucking hell, and so many of them are US and Brits, what a fucking joke, my grandparents all fought the nazis along with their troops, the main countries that liberated mine, practically all the jews I've met had family dying in the camps, practically all arab muslims here have become introverted in fear and anger not trusting anyone not arab because all the shit that's happened and the looks they're given, some begin to learn arabian even though their families have been there for several generations, french communities especially video-gaming ones are hyper-flooded with alt-right toxic shit, our politics have been contaminated with the same crass topics and rhetoric that've been polluting the US, people in real life can barely talk about anything without getting in an argument, and shit and so on ever dividing our society and peace...so lol NO, I have no tolerance, no pardon, and I don't talk normally to nazi and kkk apologists, racist theorists, holocaust deniers, jew conspiracy tinfoil gurus, all-muslims=terrorists warmongers, lgbt-bashers, or whatever hypocrites leaning towards their ideas and finding excuses for them refusing to call a spade a spade.
So yeah, denying them the 'freedom' to push the same ideas as the nazis is definitely the right thing to do. Germany forbids them to carry any nazi signs and flags, chant nazi slogans and rally at what they consider nazi memorial sites, that's the least we can do. Spreading racial hate is forbidden in most of Europe, it's a crime, and that's good, we protect people from such nasty shit so it doesn't come back and make Europe a living hell again, that's freedom!
I totally agree we have way more important struggles where to put our energy into, but that wave of nazi-and-alike resurgence creeping on us by every unprotected/unattended crevice and hole is definitely no trivial matter, if anything just the fact that they're (willingly so) being used by foreign powers to destabilize many societies and governements is a huge concern.

Going back to the topic of my personal ass more specifically, because it requires clarification, you can say I dehumanize myself by also crossing the line, yes, but you know despite all the shit the many idiots called me like liberal-jew-faggot-dogooder-antifa-globalist whatever the list is long and hilarious, I've never claimed to be a nice guy, never attempted to fake one either. I, would personally napalm bomb them, sure, but I wouldn't sneak in an internet community playing the civil (in language only) propagandist/proselyte to encourage other members to think of doing the actual shit while pretending I would'nt. We have enough examples of complete obvious racist/nazis here who hilariously keep pretending they aren't taking us for idiots, relentlessly bullshiting and trolling the farm. They're evil, I'm just bad.
Joke aside I wouldn't do it, but only because I know I wouldn't enjoy prison. :p

[additional rant. because.]
I'm an individualist anyway; in my world you can have the religion you want but not force it on others nor kill in its name, you can wish for the political socio-economic model you want but not those based on excluding and oppressing others because of their race/gender/religion etc, you can fuck whoever you want as long as it's consensual and legal your sexual life is your business keep it to yourself, you can be as rich as you can achieve as long as you treat and pay decently the workforce you exploit and accept you'll have to share a portion of your wealth with society, if you're poor you can receive a vital minimum welfare as long as you show that you do everything you can to get out of your misery, you can do wtf you want with your property as long as you don't ruin your neighbour's peace, hell you can even have guns as long as you don't walk everywhere in town with them loaded and that you're properly licensed and thouroughly checked by the authorities including medical, etc etc.
This is what a mature civilized society in a healthy democratic country should strive for, strive because it's never easy to maintain and never properly balanced, it's frustrating, problems pile up without end and you'll be wanting to punch people in the face very often, but it's always better a perspective than giving in to the ideas born from the lame-ass diapers-reeking minds of angry SJW and nazi snowflake emos and religious nutjobs who only think of themselves and want others to suffer and disappear to satisfy their narrow-mindedness and egotism. Their idea of freedom is taking it away from others, just like the SJW and commies they hate so much lol.

Also to make it clear again to the random guy who thinks himself a conservative yet mostly approves of the alt-right ideas and rhetoric: no, if you're like those salty asshole kids, you're not a conservative, real conservatives want to protect things they consider good and should not change or be replaced by something different, it's a form of love, but at the same time they value individual freedom immensely and would never claim it's good and rational to rip their rights and freedom off people just because of their race and religion or whatever, they'd demand to respect some limitations, maybe sometimes quite strict, but never ever fall so low as ebracing the fucking absurd and perverse definition of a 'free' society of the far/alt-right, supremacists neo nazi scum.
[/additional rant]

[BulletMagnet]

The reason "we're often tempted to condemn all Muslims" is because there is an easily identifiable trend of horrendous behavior.

The thing is, I among others still see little reason to believe that this distinction, particularly when juxtaposed with Christianity, arises from some intractable, unquantifiable intrinsic defect on their parts as opposed to the fact that so many more of them are so much poorer, less educated, and surrounded by (sometimes Western-fueled) conflict than their counterparts; if memory serves, when they were the flourishing civilization and the church had our own illiterate, low-life-expectancy, superstitious ancestors stuck in the dark ages the latter were just as gung-ho, if not more, for indiscriminate slaughter with a religious veneer tacked on. Or, if you want to reverse (and modernize) the parable, much of Iran in particular was headed in a similar direction to our own until their elected leader was forcibly replaced with a Western puppet and usurped by the ayatollahs.

And, because they're slaves, they have little incentive to work hard (since they can't get promotions or raises or get ahead in any way), which means they're less productive.

The solution, of course, is to promote them to "employees" but pay them so little they're basically serfs (not to mention the debt they've already gone into just to get in the door), then dangle the all-but-completely-illusory possibility that if they really try they can totally be as rich as the boss one day, so productivity stays high and wages don't need to rise with them. But I digress.

[BryanM]

I think slavery is bad and that we should amend the 13th amendment to ban it.

But I'm a radical socialist commie scum that doesn't want to Conserve evil.

[Rob]

Boston: "Antifa" vs free speech. Explaining American values to leftists is hard, and diversity is our strength ("You're supposed to be on our side.").

Fucking hell, and so many of them are US and Brits,

It is a real mystery.

[Blinge]

Yeah Rob, political correctness pandering is awful. I actually agree.
However, stuff like that emboldens people like you, feeds confirmation bias and allows you to ignore any point you may struggle dealing with.

Take your fucking blinders off once in a while.

[Xyga]

Every post by Rob is a meme-reply generated by an alt-right bot. :p

[Zen]

I do not question your motivations, Xyga, but when your personal ethical and moral compass allows you to declare;

I, would personally napalm bomb them, sure,

, I would suggest you have lost your way. Indeed, the whole post is pregnant with intolerance, paranoia and aggression.
Looking back the past few pages, I see a similar current running under the posts of many others. All of them have one thing in common; they consider themselves to be "the good guys".

The thing is, I among others still see little reason to believe that this distinction, particularly when juxtaposed with Christianity, arises from some intractable, unquantifiable intrinsic defect on their parts as opposed to the fact that so many more of them are so much poorer, less educated, and surrounded by (sometimes Western-fueled) conflict than their counterparts; if memory serves, when they were the flourishing civilization and the church had our own illiterate, low-life-expectancy, superstitious ancestors stuck in the dark ages the latter were just as gung-ho, if not more, for indiscriminate slaughter with a religious veneer tacked on. Or, if you want to reverse (and modernize) the parable, much of Iran in particular was headed in a similar direction to our own until their elected leader was forcibly replaced with a Western puppet and usurped by the ayatollahs.

These are all valid and important points and there is little doubt that they play a part in the situation.
Your example of the Dark Ages is well taken but I would be remiss if I did not point out that despite mans failings, the message of Christ can be summed up as follows; "Treat others as you would wish to be treated". Do you really believe that Islam extends to you the same wishes?

The solution, of course, is to promote them to "employees" but pay them so little they're basically serfs (not to mention the debt they've already gone into just to get in the door), then dangle the all-but-completely-illusory possibility that if they really try they can totally be as rich as the boss one day, so productivity stays high and wages don't need to rise with them. But I digress.

My man, we are all on the farm.

Yeah Rob, political correctness pandering is awful. I actually agree.
However, stuff like that emboldens people like you, feeds confirmation bias and allows you to ignore any point you may struggle dealing with.

Take your fucking blinders off once in a while.

You do not see the irony in suggesting someone take off their blinders, after having referred to them broadly as "people like you"?
And are you really more concerned with what might "embolden" people that you disagree with, than the ever more frequent actual atrocities?

[Xyga]

I do not question your motivations, Xyga, but when your personal ethical and moral compass allows you to declare;

I, would personally napalm bomb them, sure,

, I would suggest you have lost your way. Indeed, the whole post is pregnant with intolerance, paranoia and aggression.
Looking back the past few pages, I see a similar current running under the posts of many others. All of them have one thing in common; they consider themselves to be "the good guys".

Come on, I've specifically stated that I'm not a "good guy", but "intolerance paranoia and aggression": that's what we accuse you of, rightfully, you guys are not only bad, you're evil motherfuckers and a shitstain on this community.

But OK, sorry if napalm offended you, what about snu-snu ? (gay snu-snu for you )

EDIT: i'll tell you about my tolerance: by all means you guys have the right to live and build your batshit aryantopia, but fucking get your own cuntry. See ISIS at least they're honest scum; like the nazis and commies they want their own scumland. Problem they went full war and claim land thet's not theirs and that certainly doesn't go unnoticed nor appreciated today.
You guys on the other end being 'peaceful' aryan supermen means you have superior intelligence and strenght, you should be able to buy some unoccupied land somewhere, polderize, make oasises, dig tunnels under the ice whatever and then build power plants from dirt. By all means 'go Galt' and leave us deal with our own way of life that's completely different from the one you wish for, right, but fuck off somewhere for good.

[Blinge]

You do not see the irony in suggesting someone take off their blinders, after having referred to them broadly as "people like you"?

Well I've seen enough of rob's posts. Fine, I can rephrase to "people who share your ideas" if it makes you happy.

And are you really more concerned with what might "embolden" people that you disagree with, than the ever more frequent actual atrocities?

Of course not you bloody cretin.
What do you want me to say, terrorism and crime are bad? :]
I noticed you were pretty quiet when a white man was the perpetrator.

[Zen]

Come on, I've specifically stated that I'm not a "good guy"

I suspect that behind all the bluster, you are a good guy.

you guys are not only bad, you're evil motherfuckers and a shitstain on this community.

You are, of course, free to believe whatever you choose about myself and others.

I noticed you were pretty quiet when a white man was the perpetrator.

As far as I remember, I have never made a point out of any specific act of "terrorism" so why would I make a point of this one?
Idiots going postal is common to all peoples and cultures.
White American men in cars going nuts, as far as I am aware, have not reached epidemic proportions as of yet. As opposed to say, violent Jihad which, of course, has.

[Mischief Maker]

You do not see the irony in suggesting someone take off their blinders, after having referred to them broadly as "people like you"?

Oh shit, now Zen's getting involved.

Until there's something really big in the news I'm pulling the chute on this thread. I can deal with quash, but Zen's glib sociopathy is irritating beyond belief.

And like Xyga said, were it not for the fact that this forum is the main hub for English-speaking shmup enthusiasts, I'd have nothing to do with people like him.

[Blinge]

Zen's glib sociopathy is irritating beyond belief.

He'll be furiously gleefully jerking his lil' donger for weeks on this comment alone. oink! squeak! whimper!

[Giest118]

The funny thing is that, like Xyga, I actually am an individualist. But based on some minutiae of language and my reluctance to murder a whole shitload of people, he wants my ass dead.

[Xyga]

You're not reluctant to support people who promote ideologies that are all about murdering people, so what kind of individualist are you?
Basically if it's you guys coming with all your racist nazi shit it's fine, if it's others who want to get back at you for it, it's bad.
We're stuck in a 'no u' loop. Well, shit. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Giest118]

No, see, here's what happened.

I sort of doubt that ALL of those guys are literal nazis. And SJWs still have more direct control over the things we do with our lives.

KILL HIM. MURDER IS GOOD.