Prelude to the Apocalypse

[Giest118]

"If you point out what left-wing people do and think in literal terms, it makes them seem crazy. Therefore if you do it you're a delusional asshole!"

That point?

That's quite a point.

[Xyga]

Double-thanks for being an useful idiot.

[Giest118]

The first agreeable thing you've said here. He is far too dimwitted to successively conceal anything offensive about his character. The drawback: still a tremendous dimwit.

Trump is not the problem anyway, it's the people who support him and the message him being elected will send to the world: fucktards and sociopaths are winning, it's their time once again, no, more than ever before, it's like their batshit insane abysmal conception of the world and humanity will become the standard in most areas.
Any candidate in place of Clinton would have experienced the same campaign, nazi motherfuckers rethoric and subversive methods are the same everyhere, and with the invaluable support they receive from Russia it's become a deadly machine.
The response from the people who still value democracy despite the problems and challenges, people who still value their freedom and that of the others, that response has been so weak and naive it's just hopeless. They will win, and it'll be the fucking Middle Ages 2.0
Even if Clinton manages to win the effect will only be a status quo for a short while, because they're a plague and no one can fight plague just looking elsewhere hoping it'll magically go away.

Mmhm.

[Xyga]

No problem with that, pretty much it. Ruling left hypocrite globalists stay in power: the shit continues. The new right that's almost completely sold itself to the far-right wins: first steps of the all-western all-aryan sacred 4rth reich!

[Giest118]

So the people who supported Trump are all fucktards and sociopaths. Got it.

[Blinge]

How about the time when that black lives matter dude killed 5 cops in 2016? Or when GOP members got shot during baseball practice by a bernie dude not too long ago? I guess that's perfectly fine and not political at all?

Er, strawman much?
I haven't said something isn't political..

[CIT]

Stefan Molyneux

He was discussing polling data from Pew Research.

http://www.pewhispanic.org/2012/04/04/v ... prc-number

Not questioning the soundness of his data. His interpretation (and in general the other bullshit he spouts) is the problem.

Why shouldn't a country preserve its ethnic identity?

The foundation of advanced, well-functioning states like the US is the rule of law and the political rights of autonomous individual subjects. The job of the state is to enforce political and legal equality of all individuals, not to decide what customs people should follow or which skin color is better. See also: 5th amendment

What labor shortages? Have we been running out of unemployed people?

We're talking about the situation in 20-30 years time. And btw, not every person in the US is employable or wants to be employed. See next:

Indeed. Employment (true employment via the raw participation rate from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, not the made up propaganda number Mr.Burns and Mr.Smithers use on TV to tell us everything is fine) is in the low 60%'s, and that still overlooks underemployment.

You're talking about the labor force participation rate. This figure includes retirees, disabled, people in education, other people wouldn't be working anyway and the biggest reason it's so low compared to say the 1990s is demographic. Lower population growth, lots of baby boomers going into retirement etc. You should really be looking at the employment-to-population ratio for people aged 25-55.

So the people who supported Trump are all fucktards and sociopaths. Got it.

The first part is right. But in general they're much too petty and doughy in character (but also in appearance, I might add) to truly qualify as sociopaths.

[Xyga]

So the people who supported Trump are all fucktards and sociopaths. Got it.

Or simply confused, manipulated, frustrated puerile people obsessed with race, religion, and genitalia, eagerly seeking to lash out on largely misunderstood and grossly fantasized threats/enemies, without realizing what's wrong with that kind of thinking and where it's leading the world to, even though history has plenty of examples only either completely ignorant, or genuinely malevolent individuals, can ignore.
Furiously rejecting their detractors labelling them all without question as 'liberals', and laughing at the tiniest possibility they could be doing something very wrong going too far, and most astoundingly not realizing they're thinking in terms and patterns very much alike the bearded monsters they denounce.

I leave 'sociopaths' to genuine sign-bearing white supremacists/KKK, neo-nazis, religious fanatics, and randroids too even though the latter probably weren't many to vote Trump (but they're sociopaths yeah). Though the idiots who defend them aren't much better in the role of the sheep.
Are idiots innocent when they also spread the same arguments and slogans?
Fuck no.

[Bananamatic]

why is it only america though
I thought america was the best place to be

[Giest118]

Or simply confused, manipulated, frustrated puerile people obsessed with race, religion, and genitalia, eagerly seeking to lash out on largely misunderstood and grossly fantasized threats/enemies, without realizing what's wrong with that kind of thinking and where it's leading the world to, even though history has plenty of examples only either completely ignorant, or genuinely malevolent individuals, can ignore.
Furiously rejecting their detractors labelling them all without question as 'liberals', and laughing at the tiniest possibility they could be doing something very wrong going too far, and most astoundingly not realizing they're thinking in terms and patterns very much alike the bearded monsters they denounce.

I think what I like most about this quote is that if you swap out 'liberals' with 'nazis', you get a paragraph that describes SJWs and hard progressives.

I leave 'sociopaths' to genuine sign-bearing white supremacists/KKK, neo-nazis, religious fanatics, and randroids too even though the latter probably weren't many to vote Trump (but they're sociopaths yeah). Though the idiots who defend them aren't much better in the role of the sheep.
Are idiots innocent when they also spread the same arguments and slogans?
Fuck no.

Again... swap out the list of "white supremacists/KKK, neo-nazis, religious fanatics, and randroids" for something like "feminists, postmodernists, and BLMers", and then replace 'Trump' with 'Clinton', and you get the shoe just as accurately on the other foot.

But it's only to one side that you throw around phrases like:

because they're a plague and no one can fight plague just looking elsewhere hoping it'll magically go away.

... even though the problem is really that both of these extremes are feeding each other to be stronger.

[Rob]

The foundation of advanced, well-functioning states like the US...

Gibberish. You make it sound like "the state" emerged from the ether and we just happened to be the first to chance into it. The foundation is the people. Sweden is not Sweden without Swedish people. Japan is not Japan without the Japanese. Third world diversity will transition America from an "advanced, well-functioning state" into something more akin to the failed states they fled from.

We can give Liberians a blueprint and it means next to nothing.

And btw, not every person in the US is employable or wants to be employed.

Buncha layabouts. Native low skill employment on the decline over the past 50 years, coinciding with mass third world immigration.

[GaijinPunch]

. Japan is not Japan without the Japanese.

Okay, so you're going to use an example of a cuntry whose xenophobia and demographic crisis is butt fucking it into obscurity (while the old boys club sits around and sucks it's teeth) to hit a point about about America... a cuntry founded by immigrants with a sign facing Europe that states to give us all of your people. Just checking.

[Xyga]

Yeah, Giest, alright, feminist harpies, gays, human rights activists, stinking vegans, anti racist, climate alarmists etc, all historically started world wars, made holocausts and gulags, crusades, and all kinds of ethnic cleansing massacres. Their leaders were despots holding their people in living hells.
Still today they're at the core of a conspiracy to exterminate the christian white race.

....

Because they're irritating and you focus like mad on the ones that radicalize and become violent, you put the hairy SJW leftist and stupid bookworm would-be commies and anarchists who all only-ever counted to minuscule pockets of idiots... on the same level as the guys who defend the same ideas as Hitler and the like?

Of course. You've all been doing this for a long time.

And you think for a second we won't laugh at your stupidity and hypocrisy?

Your ideas are not the ideas of the right, it's not conservatism. Normal right wingers are supposed to embrace democracy, the rule of law, the republic, respect individual freedom, not constantly call to racial, religious and sex hate. Nazis and the like do so, religious fanatics do so. Commies do so except in place they're hating class and the individual.
Don't fucking call yourselves right wing or conservatives when you've crossed the line.


additional rant:
You know, I used to vote right, at least in my country like in many other in Europe they weren't massively racists and bigots, but the American right over the years has contaminated the right wing parties with all its stupid mad bullshit, thank you internet. More dramatically the political leaders of the right saw an opportunity to steal a few votes from the ever-stagnating far-right reservoir, and drag every debate into a rhetorical mud that saved them the hassle of speaking economy.
So practically every campaign has since been about fearing muslims, gays, jews, defining the rightful 'national identity' etc.
Our right wing parties were becoming as as dumb and filthy as the USA's.
And then along with the Trump filth, it began to lose voices again to the genuine far-right. Because once you've been won to the ideas, you want the real deal.
Me? I knew where this was going and left the right happily walk to its doom without me.
Also I hate stupid people, racism and bigotry are the epitome of idiocy and sign the people are becoming toxic fucktards around you and it's time to either shit on them or leave.
I was done with following any particular political side aftern that, I've slowly realized that what was left of decent people not wanting to exterminate 9 our of 10 humans on Earth and think about making things better and positive were taking refuge and vegetating in small pockets of the center and the left, pseudo right wingers posing as baby boomer socialists, old hippies, hipsters, everything was going to suck.

The worst of it all, is that you try to forget about that scum and drown yourself into work, life and interesting internet stuff....wait, but they're here all over it, you're here, massively, EVERYWHERE. And you say SJW are annoying !? You have a hundred times more presence you maniacs !
With all the abysmally stupid racist and fascist diarrhea, you fucking make the world worse, cringier than it already is. And it stinks.
Tirelessly you fucks invade forums and comments on every fucking site that makes a space for you, with your horrendous unspeakble mental stupid shit, sure! with such persistence and dedication you will win. because what's remainingg of decent human beings will leave even the fucking internet, and if you don't come to arrest us with your sure-to-happen militia/gestapos in the future, we'll die of old age isolated anyway.

But don't worry, I at least won't leave shmupsfront/shmupsreich, because it feels good to shit on you alt-reichers, once in a while.

[Giest118]

Yeah, Giest, alright, feminist harpies, gays, human rights activists, stinking vegans, anti racist, climate alarmists etc, all historically started world wars, made holocausts and gulags, crusades, and all kinds of ethnic cleansing massacres. Their leaders were despots holding their people in living hells.
Still today they're at the core of a conspiracy to exterminate the christian white race.

None of what you just wrote here has any connection with anything that was previously said.

I never actually said anything against gays, vegans, human rights activists, anti-racists, or climate alarmists. But I do believe that you think I did. That's because your mind has been trained to conflate several unrelated ideologies. You just did it after spending half a dozen posts saying that it was crazy for anyone to think you do it. You are a liar.

Because they're irritating and you focus like mad on the ones that radicalize and become violent, you put the hairy SJW leftist and stupid bookworm would-be commies and anarchists who all only-ever counted to minuscule pockets of idiots... on the same level as the guys who defend the same ideas as Hitler and the like?

People supposedly promoting the same ideas as Hitler are also a minuscule pocket of idiots. All these people who you think are promoting the same ideas as Hitler are people who actually aren't, and you're just assuming they are, because, as I just demonstrated, you like to conflate several unrelated ideologies.

Of course. You've all been doing this for a long time.

And you think for a second we won't laugh at your stupidity and hypocrisy?

I just proved that you're stupid and a hypocrite too.

Your ideas are not the ideas of the right, it's not conservatism. Normal right wingers are supposed to embrace democracy, the rule of law, the republic, respect individual freedom, not constantly call to racial, religious and sex hate. Nazis and the like do so, religious fanatics do so. Commies do so except in place they're hating class and the individual.
Don't fucking call yourselves right wing or conservatives when you've crossed the line.

To be fair, I haven't really expressed a political view since I got here.

What I find interesting here though is that you've indicated that you are aware of a conservatism that isn't nazis. But if any of these people voted for Trump, then they're nazis. So you're paying lip-service to the idea of non-nazi conservatives, but if any of them do anything a conservative would do, you call them nazis. Good job.

additional rant:
You know, I used to vote right, at least in my country like in many other in Europe they weren't massively racists and bigots, but the American right over the years has contaminated the right wing parties with all its stupid mad bullshit, thank you internet. More dramatically the political leaders of the right saw an opportunity to steal a few votes from the ever-stagnating far-right reservoir, and drag every debate into a rhetorical mud that saved them the hassle of speaking economy.
So practically every campaign has since been about fearing muslims, gays, jews, defining the rightful 'national identity' etc.
Our right wing parties were becoming as as dumb and filthy as the USA's.
And then along with the Trump filth, it began to lose voices again to the genuine far-right. Because onde you've been won to the ideas, you want the real deal.
Me? I knew where this was going and left the right happily go to its doom.
Also I hate stupid people, racism and bigotry are the epitome of idiocy and sign the people are becoming toxic fucktards around you and it's time to either shit on them or leave.
I was done with following any particular political side aftern that, I've slowly realized that what was left of decent people not wanting to exterminate 9 our of 10 humans on Earth and think about making things better and positive were taking refuge and vegetating in small pockets of the center and the left, pseudo right wingers posing as baby boomer socialists, old hippies, hipsters, everything was going to suck.

I'll agree about this much:
If conservative politicians could knock it off with their random animosity toward gays and colored people, that would be pretty cool. That way liberal politicians, who are also shit, wouldn't be the good guys by default.

The worst of it all, is that you try to forget about that scum and drown yourself into work, life and interesting internet stuff....wait, but they're here all over it, you're here, massively, EVERYWHERE. And you say SJW are annoying !? You have a hundred times more presence you maniacs !

SJWs literally control Google. You know, the search engine that people go to when they want to know things.

So thanks to SJWs owning Google, you won't have to deal with the conservative presence much longer.

With all the abysmally stupid racist and fascist diarrhea, you fucking make the world worse, cringier than it already is. And it stinks.
Tirelessly you fucks invade forums and comments on every fucking site that makes a space for you, with your horrendous unspeakble mental stupid shit, sure! with such persistence and dedication you will win. because what's remainingg of decent human beings will leave even the fucking internet, and if you don't come to arrest us with your sure-to-happen militia/gestapos in the future, we'll die of old age isolated anyway.

I like how you keep using the word "fascist" when the only ones I see calling for fascist behavior are on the liberal side of things, defining as many things as possible as "hate speech" in order to justify removing any and all platforms from which anything even vaguely right-wing can be spoken.

And I know you do this because, as I demonstrated at the start of this post, you like to conflate several unrelated ideologies.

But don't worry, I at least won't leave shmupsfront/shmupsreich, because it feels good to shit on you alt-reichers, once in a while.

And you just keep coming up with new slander terms. "Alt-reich." Nice.

[Specineff]

There you go suckers: This is the "great" America all of you who were enthralled in by Trump's words get. May the taste of the hook, line and sinker remain with you as the country that real Americans worked, sweated and bled for, is destroyed by the actions of an oligarch and his cronies whom have never known what it's like to work a single day in their life. (And by their fans)

Squirm. You deserve every single second of your vicar's bumbling, mumbling and stumbling. And it hasn't even been one year yet!

[BryanM]

I like the part where the American Nazis brainwashed the innocent European Nazis into being Nazis. Because otherwise, the innocent malleable Europeans would never think about being Nazis.

It's a... unique opinion though. That being a Nazi is so seductive an idea that it's surging in popularity. As opposed to the possibility that the rich assholes who don't care about people, are losing support.

The last generational shift was even more violent than this one, as was the one before it. As the "statue protectors" said, we're replacing them.

[Bananamatic]

I like the part where the American Nazis brainwashed the innocent European Nazis into being Nazis.

I'm pretty sure that according to xyga 99% of my country is nazi (and poland most likely 101%)
which is funny considering we got screwed in ww2 pretty damn hard and any display of nazi imagery or support of their ideas is a serious crime
I will never understand this kind of logic

[Xyga]

@Giest, Ah too much to quote now, bothersome, anyway good job twisting my points and hypocritically denying reality. *thumbs*

I'll just not bother and just say this; the GOP was already largely a party housing way too many racists and bigots, by chosing Trump the 'small pockets' of nazis supported him and his campaing full of racist shit, that was new, Trump even has some of them in his first circle of power like Bannon, it was expected that he wouldn't happily condemn the rally participants, because they're part of your right now, they clearly fit in, and seeing how fiercely you all stand up to protect them including the killer and find them all kinds of excuses then to me the shift to the far-right is all is clear and obvious.

Twist everything as much as you want and try to bury that reality in plain view under loads of everything you can find and stretch to the extreme about liberals and SJW: a racist voting base with its elected president massively reluctant to reject those nazi fucks is enough for me.
The left of the left and the democrats may be shit, and you may see some fighting unacceptable ideologies as 'fascist' (lol) even when it's a commandable legitimate fight, but a party winning power by going so racist is the bottom. Trump's right is no 'random animosity'.

Clean up your shittened GOP, there are still some people who haven't sunken to the ultimate dephts in it, indeed, and we'll talk about a legitimate 'right' that has something better to offer than that shameful display.
A right that invites the ideas of the fascist and the nazi, and yes both I know well what I'm saying considering the laws and measures that naturally come to be realized if a society ends up embracing profundly unjust end inequal rules, deserves no respect.
When the right in my cuntry began to compromise itself with ideologies that have no place in a civilized modern democratic country, I dumped it without any hesitation.
If we don't do that, one day the shit becomes real.

PS: Lol at the Google conspiracy, and 'alt-reich' isn't new.

@Bryan: stupid, just plain stupid
@banana: i feel for you people who are constantly under pressure from the fascist EU to not pass authoritarian reform laws

And it hasn't even been one year yet!

I'm actually enjoying this.

[Giest118]

@Giest, Ah too much to quote now, bothersome, anyway good job twisting my points and hypocritically denying reality. *thumbs*

I described your points in literal terms. If you don't like your own opinions, you might want to get new ones.

[BryanM]

@Bryan: stupid, just plain stupid

It is interesting that you've almost admitted you used to be a Nazi in your youth. It's like a recovering alcoholic screaming at people for drinking. You actually bought into this stuff.

I'm not gonna take any sass from some ex-Nazi who can't even read a chart or look at the vote totals. Your Nazi ideology isn't attractive to the kids, at all, they're better people than those who came before them, get over it already.

HEY EVERYONE, MACRON'S APPROVAL NUMBERS ARE FALLING INTO THE SHITTER BECAUSE OF NAZIS

Perhaps, maybe, you should consider it's because he served with 10% approval Hollande, has the same ideology, and that destroying the unions is maybe not popular with the people of France?

Maybe?

No it's just the master race seducing the youth into thinking they're special. Right.

[Xyga]

No, in fact I'm the reincarnation of Hitler, I was just trolling you all.

*removes glasses*

DAS WAR EIN BEFEHL!

see ?


PS: Macron? who's that?

[BulletMagnet]

In an attempt to pivot a little bit from Charlottesville, since Alex Jones obviously has the whole thing figured out...

First off, if the Trump administration is really that concerned about the Kim regime's missile capabilities, it might want to cast its net a little wider.

Speaking of wide nets, if you happen to visit a Trump protest website, chances are the Feds will be looking for you.

[quash]

By the by, to all the conservatives, from Congress on down, who spent the last eight years screaming at Obama/BLM/etc. for "inflaming racial tensions" - because when a cop shoots an unarmed person and then someone insists on talking about it, both are equally culpable - and are now scrambling over each other to self-righteously wag their fingers at Trump for his "many sides" comment, seriously, fuck you.

I don't recall Trump saying that one of the protesters could've been his son. It's also fair to say that there was violence on more than one side, because, well, there was.

Oh, and if you insist on still calling the media "unfairly liberal" despite the fact that not a single one of them, at least that I'm aware of, has called any of you on this, fuck you again.

Because even the spinmasters know that this is way too far of a stretch to make any sense to anyone who isn't already firmly in their grasp (which, as has recently come to light, includes the majority of employees at the CIA front/search engine monopoly, Google).

First off, if the Trump administration is really that concerned about the Kim regime's missile capabilities, it might want to cast its net a little wider.

I am currently on a guided missile destroyer in the middle of the western Pacific because of what's going on. I think the response to all this has been proper and has, at least for the moment, prevented another launch.

And that article misses a crucial point: most anything the Chinese haven't based on stolen blueprints of American designs are Russian in origin. It is not at all unlikely that China has given them some old stock of missiles.

[Elephants]

Liberals are so intolerant and violent,

It's sad/funny because it's true. There is near universal glee when a person they don't like gets attacked, zero hesitation to engage in mob justice and zero self-reflection.

oh no a bunch of people yelling at a guy - has isis claimed responsibility?

[Durandal]

The ones I deem the largest threat to the national political equilibrium are the ones who annoy me on the internet the most

[Bananamatic]

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/american- ... ica.33291/
it gets better

[Rob]

oh no a bunch of people yelling at a guy - has isis claimed responsibility?

Shouting down and assaulting a guy who did nothing but organize a legal protest, hence intolerant of any opposing viewpoint/anti-free speech and violent. It's the mentality more than the extremity of the action on display in that particular clip. If you want examples of extreme leftist violence, I can list some for you.

I've found that the people I'm told to think of as evil (by people like you) are much more decent and civilized.

[Blinge]

Spoiler

[Durandal]

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/american- ... ica.33291/
it gets better

A severe lack of self-awareness is required to consider yourself any kind of cultural vanguard when you're a no-good NEET. Though I'm not sure what the idea behind trying to preserve some vague kind of 'American culture' is. Cultural heritage should be preserved so future generations know what their country used to be like, but culture is not something the government can control, and culture is always subject to change. You can introduce new cultures to the mix and muddle the national identity, but when I look at examples of ideal American culture in the 50's I can't help but think the Americans themselves did a fine job of degenerating and subverting their own culture without the help of any foreign force. You can't really forcibly revert culture to an earlier state other than to set an example for yourself. Preferably that example doesn't constitute nazi larping and wearing official funny frog meme merchandise.

[Elephants]

I've found that the people I'm told to think of as evil (by people like you) are much more decent and civilized.

it's funny, because not even the organisers/invited speakers are blaming the counter-protesters - the conspiracy-narrative they're trying to build is that the police forced the two sides into each other because the police are anti-white or something. which is an interesting, if totally insane, take.

anyway, i'm telling you to think the retarded-looking kid who murdered that woman with his nazimobile is more evil than the shirt-optional students screaming and throwing their inhalers at the doughy white-power guy who waddled away in a blur. so now you know who you think is more decent and civilized than whom.