BVM/LCD/OSSC/Extron/Sync Strike Cable Routing

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BVM/LCD/OSSC/Extron/Sync Strike Cable Routing

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I am trying to incorporate a Hydra 16 port scart switch, OSSC 1.5 w/ audio, Extron 203 RXi, & a Sync Strike in order to use all of my consoles on BOTH my BVM and 1080p monitor. I have quickly drawn up the routing which I think will work. I am currently waiting on the OSSC, Hydra, Extron and Sync Strike to get here over the next two weeks so I can not test everything right now. The reason I am asking is so I can ensure I purchase all of the correct cables in order to hook everything up in a order that works. My goal is to eliminate any sort of manual switching of inputs.

*I do not have a gcompsw or have an order on one but I will be trying my best to get on the next preorder.

Input is greatly appreciated! (things do not need to be routed this way, infact I'd prefer to be able to use the Xbox, Wii and PS2 on the CRT as well, but couldn't think of how to do that) Thanks!

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Re: BVM/LCD/OSSC/Extron/Sync Strike Cable Routing

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Should work, Extron interfaces don't play well with interlace in my experience (you will need DDSP switch ON which disables centring controls).

How are you handling audio from your component sources?
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Re: BVM/LCD/OSSC/Extron/Sync Strike Cable Routing

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BuckoA51 wrote:Should work, Extron interfaces don't play well with interlace in my experience (you will need DDSP switch ON which disables centring controls).

One thing I forgot to ask is will the BVM act as a passthrough, even when turned off?

How are you handling audio from your component sources?
Hm, how would I go about keeping 480i images centered? That's one of the most important things to me. I always find myself having to adjust the display for each console it seems..

There are a couple possible combinations I could do... such as;

https://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Speaker-H ... m+splitter
&
https://www.amazon.com/3-5mm-Right-Audi ... a+to+3.5mm
&
https://www.amazon.com/Unknown-HDMI-VGA ... B0015YWV1G

Like this

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Any reason this shouldn't work?
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Re: BVM/LCD/OSSC/Extron/Sync Strike Cable Routing

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Avoiding sync strippers (like the sync strike) helps, because those delay the sync and cause an image offset.
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Guspaz wrote:Avoiding sync strippers (like the sync strike) helps, because those delay the sync and cause an image offset.
Good to know. Does that mean I would need to modify each console or cable for CSYNC that doesn't already provide it?

One thing I forgot to ask is will the BVM act as a passthrough, even when turned off?
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Re: BVM/LCD/OSSC/Extron/Sync Strike Cable Routing

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Does your BVM require csync? Because it offers no benefits when paired with high quality cables unless your device specifically requires it. The OSSC does not require csync, and PVMs don't, but I'm not sure about the BVM. I'm not sure what the Extron box is intended for in your setup (it doesn't seem to be required for either the BVM or 1080p display).

When it comes to sync, you should generally prefer csync from the source if it's available, luma sync if it's not, and composite video sync if that's not, and use good cables to avoid any interference in the composite video scenario.

If you do have a device that requires csync, and you've got some consoles that don't support csync, then a sync stripper right before the display is probably the easiest solution, but maybe somebody else here with more specific experience in this category can say more.
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Guspaz wrote:...I'm not sure what the Extron box is intended for in your setup (it doesn't seem to be required for either the BVM or 1080p display)...
The reason I wanted the Extron was for vertical and horizontal centering. It seems to be quite popular in different setup scenarios. I guess what you're saying is if I wasn't using a sync stripper that I wouldn't need it?
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Here is a solution I think I came up with for using the component devices on the CRT as well (the BVM will force the signal from 480p to 480i?). Using the GARO after the component splitter, I should be able to still get 480p fed to the ossc, correct?




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The reason I wanted the Extron was for vertical and horizontal centering.
that's silly with a display like your BVM where you have all geometry controls available at your fingertip.
the BVM will force the signal from 480p to 480i?
no, it won't accept 31khz signals.
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Fudoh wrote:
The reason I wanted the Extron was for vertical and horizontal centering.
that's silly with a display like your BVM where you have all geometry controls available at your fingertip.

Yes, but doesn't the Extron do it automatically, where as if I had one system that was off, I'd have to manually correct it on the BVM? Also, it would be for after the OSSC on the LCD monitor as well. My dreamcast will be off center where other systems are not. Is that wrong?
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Re: BVM/LCD/OSSC/Extron/Sync Strike Cable Routing

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Not unless you buy a separate Extron for each console...
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Yes, but doesn't the Extron do it automatically, where as if I had one system that was off, I'd have to manually correct it on the BVM?
no, and after all the Extron only would offer you positioning controls, where you really need sizing controls as well.
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Also, it would be for after the OSSC on the LCD monitor as well. My dreamcast will be off center where other systems are not. Is that wrong?
If it is you can use the back porch settings on your OSSC to center the image and then save that to a profile.
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