E3 2017

[Durandal]

Devolver only really showed one game and used the rest of their time to shitpost

[iconoclast]

I thought the MS conference was a waste of time. Anthem looks really cool, but if it's essentially EA/Bioware's take on Destiny, I doubt I'll play it. I didn't care for anything else they showed. Original Xbox backwards compatibility is great news though. At least for games that aren't going to get the full remaster treatment, like Phantom Dust.

The Evil Within 2 looks amazing, but I guess Mikami isn't directing? I can't get too hyped without that guaranteed seal of quality. I'm sure he's still heavily involved though, so no worries.

[Blinge]

armored core 6 when

Been seeing a lot of talk saying For Answer is the best AC, would you agree?
It'd be a shame to me cause it's the only one I played and felt it was kinda meh

[Bananamatic]

It's the only ps3/360 one I haven't played but it looks retarded, basically AC4 which is already fairly fast, except 3 times faster with permaflight
try verdict day, it's way slower and more ground/cover based, no vertical thrusters but you gain height by wall jumping instead

generally you have 2 groups of AC fans, one thinks FA is the best by far because it's ridiculously fast and hi tech with permaflight just like gundam 00, the other group thinks that FA almost isn't even AC anymore because of that and prefers 5th gen and the older titles
I just hope AC6 sticks to the current game speed if it happens

[Blinge]

Fair enough, which game would you suggest I look at next?

Although I might have to jump back into FA at some point to do the other routes, duels, and generally suck less.
Your previous advice about permaflight helped a lot though.

Also yeah I'm hoping From show something this E3

[Bananamatic]

I haven't played the ps2 ones myself yet but you could try 4 and verdict day
4 is basically FA mechanics but way slower, verdict day is probably like $5 at this point
can't recommend 5 though, same core mechanics as verdict day except there were fps issues, extremely bad AI, less weapons, etc.

[Cuilan]

Microsoft had a pretty good conference overall, with the only major blemish being the Xbonex price reveal.

Once the Xbonex goes down to $400, it shall be my next gaming PC for a few years.

[dan76]

Glad to see The a Evil Within 2. Not a great trailer, but from the descriptions and screenshots it looks like more of the same (which is no bad thing) but some improvements like some open world elements. Not Sure Mikami is directing... But he didn't direct RE2 so... Could still be great. I want to see some gameplay.

I also liked the look of Star Wars Battlefront 2. It's a shame the shity prequels are getting all the glory but as long as there's OT stuff in there I'll be handing over my cash (again). Almost everything that's been altered from the first game looks much better, which leads to the question of why they didn't do this in the first place as it similar to the original Battlefront. You live and learn.

[Sumez]

Super Self-Concerned Burrito looks pretty promising.

[Skykid]

Microsoft had a pretty good conference overall, with the only major blemish being the Xbonex price reveal.

Once the Xbonex goes down to $400, it shall be my next gaming PC for a few years.

Based on historic launch prices I thought it was actually relatively cheaper. Can someone tell me is it a whole new console with backwards compatibility, or just an Xbone 1.5?

[Durandal]

Microsoft had a pretty good conference overall, with the only major blemish being the Xbonex price reveal.

Once the Xbonex goes down to $400, it shall be my next gaming PC for a few years.

Based on historic launch prices I thought it was actually relatively cheaper. Can someone tell me is it a whole new console with backwards compatibility, or just an Xbone 1.5?

Sounds like its an upgraded Xbone with 4K capabilities which supports all Xbone games, but it can make everything run at 4K 60fps through blast processing and six teraflops. OG backwards compatibility should work similarly to the current 360 backwards compatibility program where a bunch of old titles get thrown on the Marketplace for you to buy them again, but not all old games are directly available.

[iconoclast]

MS doesn't make you buy anything for backwards compatibility. If you own the original game, it works (usually with improvements). And BC on the Xbone is region free, so it's especially good for region locked games (Metal Wolf Chaos pls).

I like the idea of a more powerful version of a console, but I don't care about 4k. I'd much rather be able to use that extra power to play every game at a higher framerate than be forced to downsample.

[Skykid]

But am I right in thinking it's a new console in the sense that there will be games taking advantage of its power that ONLY play on the xbonex, unlike the PS4 pro - or is it the same deal?

[iconoclast]

It's like the PS4 Pro, it's not supposed to have any exclusive games. Maybe that will change over time though.

[Mortificator]

I haven't played the ps2 ones myself yet but you could try 4 and verdict day
4 is basically FA mechanics but way slower, verdict day is probably like $5 at this point

These are poor recommendations, to be honest. While I understand not liking the style of AC4 and For Answer, the latter of the pair is so clearly superior, I can't see recommending the former to anyone who didn't enjoy it.

V and Verdict Day are the two Armored Cores I haven't played, but I know they're built around online multiplayer, and I see posts from two years ago complaining that online is virtually dead.

For classic-style AC, my suggestion would be Armored Core 3. If you like it, you can carry your save over to Silent Line. Another possibility is the original Armored Core, a rougher game, but still a great one (and you can carry that save over to Master of Arena; skip Project Phantasma).

[ZellSF]

So Ubisoft is making Mario XCOM? I have no complaints. I sort of want a Switch for that.

[ZellSF]

The Crew 2 looks good too?

These are not the games I expected to look good.

[Bananamatic]

V and Verdict Day are the two Armored Cores I haven't played, but I know they're built around online multiplayer, and I see posts from two years ago complaining that online is virtually dead.

verdict day has hardcore mode, which is basically permadeath mode with different restrictions depending on the type (50x more expensive ammo, more damage taken, etc.) and limited lives, plus you're not allowed to replay missions to farm cash so if you want to make money you better get those high ranks to stand a chance later on
quitting out also counts as a death so you can't cheese it
singleplayer can't possibly get any better than that and the regular campaign is pretty damn challenging at times as well, easily got over 60 hours just out of the singleplayer content

the latter of the pair is so clearly superior, I can't see recommending the former to anyone who didn't enjoy it

unless they think the speed is excessive, then slowing the fuck down is clearly a good idea
what I really didn't like about 4 was how shitty the normals were, the whole game is a faceroll except for the NEXT fights and I assume it's only worse in FA

[ZellSF]

Microsoft exceeded expectations for me. Ubisoft exceeded expectations. This is a weird E3.

I want to see more of Starlink (not sold on it but it looks interesting) and Beyond Good & Evil 2? Finally.

[Immryr]

holy shit that beyond good and evil trailer is one of the most cringe inducing things i've ever seen.

[Durandal]

The PC Gaming Show was... fucking boring. Maybe it'd be more exciting if I were into real-time strategy though I can't imagine most grognard strategists getting hyped up over an XCOM 2 expansion which looks like Halo with zombies or some such shit, a pointless HD remake of Age of Empires, and the apparent poor optimization of Total WaWa 2. Though BATTLETECH sure did seem interesting. Aside from that we got to see some interesting stuff like Bannerlord and The Last Night, but the rest was mostly forgettable, aside from maybe Shadowverse if you're into deck shuffling games.

The amount of indie games going for an untextured low-poly artstyle is steadily increasing to the point of oversaturation, and too many them are still stuck in recent trends. There's indie Fire Emblem, indie Harvest Moon and indie Zelda. Seriously. Aside from that there's also other stuff like Cliffy Bazinga's Lawbreakers which looks like a faster Overwatch, that Sea of Thieves, and a whole bunch of SPONSORED BY INTEL, e-Sports, some embarrassing mustard race baiting at the start. Too much time was wasted on talking to developers instead of moving on to the next trailer, so the conference as a whole was rather boring. We didn't even get to see the cooler shit like Kingdom Come: Deliverance, Outcast, or Cyberpunk 2077.

Ubisoft was... okay? Better than normal at least. XCOM Mario x Rabbids mite be interesting, Mario hasn't been in an SRPG yet. Most shit presented didn't really interest me, but Beyond Good & Evil 2 finally being announced certainly was a surprise. Michel Ancel is thankfully still at the helm (I honestly thought he'd be too busy working on WILD), but we haven't seen the slightest shred of gameplay yet. The trailer itself didn't seem like it had a lot to do with the first game, but it's been a long while since I played it. I don't remember there being this much swearing and edginess in the first game. Also of note was that there wasn't much in the way of cringe either despite Ubisoft usually being King Cringe, aside from the obligatory Just Dance part, poor overall choice of music, and Shiggy and the frog shooting eachother with Mario guns. I think I actually miss Aisha Tyler, at least she was comprehensible unlike all zees heavilee accahntud forenchmeen.

We may be seeing a disturbing trend where the corporations and publishers are actually learning to adapt. They have learned that appearing in cringe compilations is bad publicity, and thus started focusing more on displaying their line-up of games instead of embarrassing attempts at attracting the cool and hip gamer audience through soulless actors dressed up in Hot Topic clothes. The thing is... the games themselves are mostly forgettable and boring. So you end up with shit you don't care about at all and never bother to look back. Instead of painful it's just forgettable, which might be even worse.

[Bananamatic]

gamers might not be dead but this e3 sure makes me wish they were

[evil_ash_xero]

I'm definitely interested in Evil Within 2. There was an interview with a guy from Bethesda, who said this game would be more "open", as people complained about the linearity of the first one.
That was my major gripe, so I'm glad to hear it.

The trailer was OK, but the real stuff is in this gameplay trailer (which was taken off of YouTube, but is up on Dailymotion). Looks very good. https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5q5t ... videogames

There's supposed to be a Ni no Kuni II announcement for November.

I'm hoping to hear some FromSoftware news at the Sony Conference tonight.

[evil_ash_xero]

gamers might not be dead but this e3 sure makes me wish they were

Could you elaborate? I'm not paying tons of attention to this E3. Just skimming over pages, and looking at trailers. Is there some kind of kerfuffle?

[Durandal]

Here's a curious pattern in this E3:



If any of you have found more, please post them. I need them. Please.

[evil_ash_xero]

I've been reading a lot about social justice stuff going on at E3.

I'm so fried by it, that I haven't been paying attention. I pretty much only buy Japanese games anyway, so...whatever. But I definitely see a trend there.

[iconoclast]

The Evil Within 2 being more "open" and having sidequests is the most worrying thing about it to me. If they mean it'll be a little closer to RE4, then it's all good. But I don't need everything to be open world. Linear action games are good, actually.

[evil_ash_xero]

The Evil Within 2 being more "open" and having sidequests is the most worrying thing about it to me. If they mean it'll be a little closer to RE4, then it's all good. But I don't need everything to be open world. Linear action games are good, actually.

The dude from Bethesda said it was just stuff where you could look around and get more weapons and stuff. "Open world" would skyrocket the budget, so I don't think that's a big issue. EW was too linear. Sometimes you were just in a hall, then a room, then a hall..... It really needs to open up some. I don't want some big ass "world" either, but yeah, something like RE 4.

[dan76]

The Evil Within 2 being more "open" and having sidequests is the most worrying thing about it to me. If they mean it'll be a little closer to RE4, then it's all good. But I don't need everything to be open world. Linear action games are good, actually.

I would have thought they mean in terms of chapter 3 or the mansion chapter from the first game. A series of objectives that can taken on in any order, confined to a single area. I doubt we are talking the new Zelda here. I know what you mean though. Open world can mean the pacing goes to shit, but I doubt it in this case.

I hope they get rid of the scripted sequences, forced walking, intrusive story cut scenes. There's a bit too much of that in the original, the game pulling control away from you for some convoluted guff.

[evil_ash_xero]

I hope they get rid of the scripted sequences, forced walking, intrusive story cut scenes. There's a bit too much of that in the original, the game pulling control away from you for some convoluted guff.

I wouldn't mind that at all. But I doubt they will, if the DLC is anything to go by.