gscartsw / gscartsw_lite / gcompsw switches support thread

[superg]

Damn that sucks, sorry superg! Might not even be lost. When I ordered my Garo from Beharbros it sat in "Origin Post is Preparing Shipment" status when exiting Turkey for 4 days, then sat in customs for another 3 days once it hit the US. Each time a few days went past with no updates I got worried, but it just took a little patience. It could be just that US->Singapore shipments take more time at the border.

I know for some Australian folks it took around a month. I guess it depends on the carrier load and country practices.

[Ward1986]

I want to buy both a gscartsw_lite and a gcompsw v1.1. Whats the process in regards to preordering? Is there a mailing list to alert me when they are available to order, or is it just a case of checking each day? When will they likely be available to order together to save on shipping?

[Jaz]

Good story. But, the reality is different.

Ill be sure to post your PMs here for everyone to see.

[Jaz]

Me:

DHL shipping of very large items in the past has cost me USD50. Many times larger than this item.

Who lost it I really don't care. Thats what PayPal Protection is for.

The reply:

You do whatever you want, but I will tell you what will happen next:
1. You will be told by paypal to wait more time until anything will happen, up to 1 month, then I will request for the shipping insurance
2. You will be blacklisted by me forever
3. I'll post everything about this situation in public

/
What a fucking asshole you are. Public "shaming" because I inform you the item hasn't arrived. As I said, good products but you're a tool.

I've been buying gaming related stuff on eBay since 2003 and Assembler for years and years. Never had an issue.

You might want to consider your aggressive approach to customers.

[Guspaz]

You filed a PayPal dispute because your package hadn't arrived after 6 business days, despite USPS having a 6-10 business day shipping estimate. You're not going to get any sympathy here, you're the unreasonable one in this situation. People who take advantage of small businesses with such ridiculous behaviour certainly should be called out in public so that others can avoid them.

For the record, the last time I ordered something from your region by national postal services, it took a month to arrive, most of that time with no tracking updates.

[Jaz]

You filed a PayPal dispute because your package hadn't arrived after 6 business days, despite USPS having a 6-10 business day shipping estimate. You're not going to get any sympathy here, you're the unreasonable one in this situation. People who take advantage of small businesses with such ridiculous behaviour certainly should be called out in public so that others can avoid them.

For the record, the last time I ordered something from your region by national postal services, it took a month to arrive, most of that time with no tracking updates.

Haven't filed anything.

[franckytaz]

Everyone please calm down ! (is my english good ?)

I used to have some issues with various international postage, generaly we have to be patient and they finaly come to deliver the package (with more or less lateness), do they ?

[FBX]

And this is why my own personal policy is to never ship to anywhere out of the country if I can help it. If it isn't the lack of tracking, it's the lack of patience. Stuff traveling over the ocean often gets stuck in limbo for WEEKS before it even appears on the radar again. Anyone remember when byuu though his PAL games got stolen by USPS? He was 100% sure of it, yet a few weeks later the crate was found in the Atlanta depot, right where it was supposed to be in the case of a lost shipping label.

Anyway, just spent $250 on a complete re-cabling of my retro-gaming wall of consoles. I was previously using JP21 cables, but after so many times being disappointed with lack of options compared to Euro-SCART, I decided it was time to rip off the bandaid, especially in anticipation of the gscart lite. I went through retro_console_accessories and had each cable custom-made to order for my setup. This is going to be badass when the gscart ships. I'm likely going to do a video on my gaming rig once everything is in place.

[superg]

I want to buy both a gscartsw_lite and a gcompsw v1.1. Whats the process in regards to preordering? Is there a mailing list to alert me when they are available to order, or is it just a case of checking each day? When will they likely be available to order together to save on shipping?

There is no waiting list, there will be extra gscartsw_lite units from this batch, they will go on sale once the preorders are shipped. gcompsw's are still in stock but I'm not sure it'll last for long. I'll be ordering more gcompsw units afterwards. Please subscribe to this thread, I announce everything here.

DHL shipping of very large items in the past has cost me USD50. Many times larger than this item.

I have a business DHL account, every shipping from my manufacturer to me goes by DHL.
I'm aware of the pricing, don't try to teach me and I won't be telling you who you really are.
The problem here is that you never asked for the DHL shipping. It's written nearly everywhere that I ship by USPS, on the order page, on this forum etc.
You could've asked that before ordering, but no, you took the chances.

The reply:

You do whatever you want, but I will tell you what will happen next:
1. You will be told by paypal to wait more time until anything will happen, up to 1 month, then I will request for the shipping insurance
2. You will be blacklisted by me forever
3. I'll post everything about this situation in public

Oh, why don't you post it all then?


That was in the reply to:
"Thanks for the help. PayPal dispute it is then."

What a fucking asshole you are. Public "shaming" because I inform you the item hasn't arrived. As I said, good products but you're a tool.
I've been buying gaming related stuff on eBay since 2003 and Assembler for years and years. Never had an issue.
You might want to consider your aggressive approach to customers.

You didn't "inform", you made unreasonable demands and threatened me with a PayPal claim.
That's you who should work on you attitude. Not gonna respond to insults, moderator will sort this out.

You filed a PayPal dispute because your package hadn't arrived after 6 business days, despite USPS having a 6-10 business day shipping estimate. You're not going to get any sympathy here, you're the unreasonable one in this situation. People who take advantage of small businesses with such ridiculous behaviour certainly should be called out in public so that others can avoid them.
For the record, the last time I ordered something from your region by national postal services, it took a month to arrive, most of that time with no tracking updates.

Just to be fair he haven't filled the dispute yet, he gave me "time until Monday". I'm sure it'll follow given that it all went public.

[superg]

And this is why my own personal policy is to never ship to anywhere out of the country if I can help it. If it isn't the lack of tracking, it's the lack of patience. Stuff traveling over the ocean often gets stuck in limbo for WEEKS before it even appears on the radar again. Anyone remember when byuu though his PAL games got stolen by USPS? He was 100% sure of it, yet a few weeks later the crate was found in the Atlanta depot, right where it was supposed to be in the case of a lost shipping label.

Wow, I didn't follow him for a while, glad it's all sorted out!

Anyway, just spent $250 on a complete re-cabling of my retro-gaming wall of consoles. I was previously using JP21 cables, but after so many times being disappointed with lack of options compared to Euro-SCART, I decided it was time to rip off the bandaid, especially in anticipation of the gscart lite. I went through retro_console_accessories and had each cable custom-made to order for my setup. This is going to be badass when the gscart ships. I'm likely going to do a video on my gaming rig once everything is in place.

I'm working on my setup as well, currently what I have is a mess, cables are literally from everywhere and most of these are really cheap-made.

[Wolf_]

Just to be fair he haven't filled the dispute yet, he gave me "time until Monday". I'm sure it'll follow given that it all went public.

If I can make a small suggestion...

Spoiler

Sometimes you need to fight autism with autism.

[Guspaz]

Just to be fair he haven't filled the dispute yet, he gave me "time until Monday". I'm sure it'll follow given that it all went public.

Monday would be what, 7-8 full business days after shipping? That's still less than the 6-10 business day range given by USPS as normal for priority shipping, and still way less than my experience to the region. Waiting until Monday is not any more reasonable than filing it two business days earlier.

[superg]

Update: Case parts have been ordered.

[sirjecht]

Are the extra of gscartws_lite units going to have the ps2 issue (sync on green) fixed or can it just be resolved by getting a ps2 csync cable run into a pvm/bvm. Also want to make sure it would be 480p mode cause I have read rgb wants to default to 480i sometimes on rgb mode on ps2. Kinda new to this stuff sorry if I am asking a stupid question just really starting to dive into this stuff, watched a quiet a few videos before posting and did some research. My particular setup since I just started has nothing but a PVM 20L5 that I just bought so I am just starting to get my feet wet in the RGB world. So please forgive the noob question.

[LDigital]

My gcompsw arrived today and is ready for pickup from the PO - Yay!
Royal Mail and Her majesty want £26.89 for customs and charges - boo!

Just think, when brexit is over we can look forward to this kind of ripoff on everything from Europe too

[superg]

Are the extra of gscartws_lite units going to have the ps2 issue (sync on green) fixed or can it just be resolved by getting a ps2 csync cable run into a pvm/bvm. Also want to make sure it would be 480p mode cause I have read rgb wants to default to 480i sometimes on rgb mode on ps2. Kinda new to this stuff sorry if I am asking a stupid question just really starting to dive into this stuff, watched a quiet a few videos before posting and did some research. My particular setup since I just started has nothing but a PVM 20L5 that I just bought so I am just starting to get my feet wet in the RGB world. So please forgive the noob question.

No, all the extra units will be exactly the same as pre-orders. No SoG handling.

[Wolf_]

Are the extra of gscartws_lite units going to have the ps2 issue (sync on green) fixed or can it just be resolved by getting a ps2 csync cable run into a pvm/bvm. Also want to make sure it would be 480p mode cause I have read rgb wants to default to 480i sometimes on rgb mode on ps2. Kinda new to this stuff sorry if I am asking a stupid question just really starting to dive into this stuff, watched a quiet a few videos before posting and did some research. My particular setup since I just started has nothing but a PVM 20L5 that I just bought so I am just starting to get my feet wet in the RGB world. So please forgive the noob question.

No, all the extra units will be exactly the same as pre-orders. No SoG handling.

Will the SoG cables you are working on work with the lite?

[superg]

Are the extra of gscartws_lite units going to have the ps2 issue (sync on green) fixed or can it just be resolved by getting a ps2 csync cable run into a pvm/bvm. Also want to make sure it would be 480p mode cause I have read rgb wants to default to 480i sometimes on rgb mode on ps2. Kinda new to this stuff sorry if I am asking a stupid question just really starting to dive into this stuff, watched a quiet a few videos before posting and did some research. My particular setup since I just started has nothing but a PVM 20L5 that I just bought so I am just starting to get my feet wet in the RGB world. So please forgive the noob question.

No, all the extra units will be exactly the same as pre-orders. No SoG handling.

Will the SoG cables you are working on work with the lite?

Surely it will. Still didn't get back to this project, lack of time.

[Wolf_]

No, all the extra units will be exactly the same as pre-orders. No SoG handling.

Will the SoG cables you are working on work with the lite?

Surely it will. Still didn't get back to this project, lack of time.

Not a problem. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't going to have to order my third gscart when the SoG cables come out eventually lol. Take your time and make it to the same quality of everything else you do.

[werk91]

My gcompsw arrived today and is ready for pickup from the PO - Yay!
Royal Mail and Her majesty want £26.89 for customs and charges - boo!

Just think, when brexit is over we can look forward to this kind of ripoff on everything from Europe too

I've been buying vinyl from America for over 5 years and sometimes for hundreds of pounds with no customs fee until a month ago. Now everything I've ordered gets slapped the customs sticker. Someone somewhere is desperate for cash...

[hyne]

I'm eagerly awaiting my pre-ordered gscartsw_lite

Somehow I missed the discussion about PS2/SyncOnGreen. Will the lite flat out reject the SoG signal? Or will it be possible to plug the PS2 into the lite's socket 8 and have the SoG signal processed by my OSSC? Will I need the specially made SoG cable for the lite/OSSC combination?

[superg]

I'm eagerly awaiting my pre-ordered gscartsw_lite

Somehow I missed the discussion about PS2/SyncOnGreen. Will the lite flat out reject the SoG signal? Or will it be possible to plug the PS2 into the lite's socket 8 and have the SoG signal processed by my OSSC? Will I need the specially made SoG cable for the lite/OSSC combination?

Read the topic backwards, it have all been explained here.

[hyne]

The PS2 pinout has the same pins for

Y (when outputting component) and Green (when outputting RGB)
Pr (when outputting component) and Red (when outputting RGB)
Pb (when outputting component) and Blue (when outputting RGB)

The OSSC supports 480p PS2 RGsB over component cables, question is will the gcompsw forward it?

I was talking about the component mode. In component mode sync is always mixed to Y and Y is used for the gcompsw detection.
If you set PS2 to RGBS mode while using component cable, where are you going to take the sync from when PS2 is in normal mode (non VGA)?
SoG is enabled only when the game sets the appropriate video mode which means you will see nothing on screen when PS2 boots or in it's menu, etc.

Now to answer your question, gcompsw detects the signal if there is a sync either on Green RCA or on Yellow RCA, so it will forward PS2 in VGA mode.
But to support legacy RGBS mode you'll need the component cable which has additional composite RCA jack which you connect to yellow gcompsw RCA and then you have to somehow utilize gcompsw's yellow output with OSSC.
If all that is resolved you're all set.

Ok I found this response. That still leaves me a bit puzzled about my planned setup:
PS2 (set to RGB mode) -> SCART RGB Cable -> gscartsw_lite -> OSSC (RGsB input) = 480p over SCART
Will that work or will I need the specialty cable that you're planning to put out?

[Wolf_]

The PS2 pinout has the same pins for

Y (when outputting component) and Green (when outputting RGB)
Pr (when outputting component) and Red (when outputting RGB)
Pb (when outputting component) and Blue (when outputting RGB)

The OSSC supports 480p PS2 RGsB over component cables, question is will the gcompsw forward it?

I was talking about the component mode. In component mode sync is always mixed to Y and Y is used for the gcompsw detection.
If you set PS2 to RGBS mode while using component cable, where are you going to take the sync from when PS2 is in normal mode (non VGA)?
SoG is enabled only when the game sets the appropriate video mode which means you will see nothing on screen when PS2 boots or in it's menu, etc.

Now to answer your question, gcompsw detects the signal if there is a sync either on Green RCA or on Yellow RCA, so it will forward PS2 in VGA mode.
But to support legacy RGBS mode you'll need the component cable which has additional composite RCA jack which you connect to yellow gcompsw RCA and then you have to somehow utilize gcompsw's yellow output with OSSC.
If all that is resolved you're all set.

Ok I found this response. That still leaves me a bit puzzled about my planned setup:
PS2 (set to RGB mode) -> SCART RGB Cable -> gscartsw_lite -> OSSC (RGsB input) = 480p over SCART
Will that work or will I need the specialty cable that you're planning to put out?

That should work. What won't work is if you use SoG through the gscart_lite because it can't detect it. As long as you have the ossc convert the signal to SoG then it should work fine. AFAIK

[superg]

The PS2 pinout has the same pins for

Y (when outputting component) and Green (when outputting RGB)
Pr (when outputting component) and Red (when outputting RGB)
Pb (when outputting component) and Blue (when outputting RGB)

The OSSC supports 480p PS2 RGsB over component cables, question is will the gcompsw forward it?

I was talking about the component mode. In component mode sync is always mixed to Y and Y is used for the gcompsw detection.
If you set PS2 to RGBS mode while using component cable, where are you going to take the sync from when PS2 is in normal mode (non VGA)?
SoG is enabled only when the game sets the appropriate video mode which means you will see nothing on screen when PS2 boots or in it's menu, etc.

Now to answer your question, gcompsw detects the signal if there is a sync either on Green RCA or on Yellow RCA, so it will forward PS2 in VGA mode.
But to support legacy RGBS mode you'll need the component cable which has additional composite RCA jack which you connect to yellow gcompsw RCA and then you have to somehow utilize gcompsw's yellow output with OSSC.
If all that is resolved you're all set.

Ok I found this response. That still leaves me a bit puzzled about my planned setup:
PS2 (set to RGB mode) -> SCART RGB Cable -> gscartsw_lite -> OSSC (RGsB input) = 480p over SCART
Will that work or will I need the specialty cable that you're planning to put out?

That one is about gcompsw - Component switch.

Darn, I can't seem to find my SoG lite replies.
Ok, switch can forward SoG but it detects based on the composite signal so no composite - no detection.
And there is no fallback port on lite so you're out of luck with PS2 in VGA mode.
SoG->RGBS adapter will solve it but as I've said I didn't have enough time to work on that.

[hyne]

Darn, I can't seem to find my SoG lite replies.
Ok, switch can forward SoG but it detects based on the composite signal so no composite - no detection.
And there is no fallback port on lite so you're out of luck with PS2 in VGA mode.
SoG->RGBS adapter will solve it but as I've said I didn't have enough time to work on that.

A follow up question:
-If a PS2 (set to RGB) is hooked up via SCART and a game is loaded that runs in 240p/480i, then the output will be "VGA mode"? -> gscartsw_lite is incompatible?

-If a PS2 (set to RGB) is hooked up via SCART and a game is loaded that runs in 480p, then the output will be SyncOnGreen? -> gscartsw_lite is compatible?

Thanks for clarifying

[superg]

Darn, I can't seem to find my SoG lite replies.
Ok, switch can forward SoG but it detects based on the composite signal so no composite - no detection.
And there is no fallback port on lite so you're out of luck with PS2 in VGA mode.
SoG->RGBS adapter will solve it but as I've said I didn't have enough time to work on that.

A follow up question:
-If a PS2 (set to RGB) is hooked up via SCART and a game is loaded that runs in 240p/480i, then the output will be "VGA mode"? -> gscartsw_lite is incompatible?

-If a PS2 (set to RGB) is hooked up via SCART and a game is loaded that runs in 480p, then the output will be SyncOnGreen? -> gscartsw_lite is compatible?

Thanks for clarifying

The reverse:
240p/480i - RGBS, lite compatible
480p - VGA SoG, lite non compatible

[Guspaz]

Just to confirm, for standard RGBS, the gscartsw-lite supports 480p+, right? The new sync logic works at 31KHz?

[superg]

Just to confirm, for standard RGBS, the gscartsw-lite supports 480p+, right? The new sync logic works at 31KHz?

Standard RGBS is fine, gscartsw_lite supports 480p+ resolutions and 31kHz sync.

[Eclipse00]

Drat, I've been on vacation for the past 3 weeks and completely missed the gscartsw_lite preorders...

Any estimate on when the next batch will be open for orders?