Raiden 2 and Raiden DX Will Be Fully Playable in Mame 1.55

[Furry Fox Jet Pilot]

furthermore there is the 'harder' version of Raiden 2 on Raiden DX hardware, that was dumped many years ago by 'The Sheep' has anybody come across that version before? it also seems to be unique compared to the others - secrets moved around etc., and it really wants you dead

So is there no way I can play this extra hard version in the latest MAME release yet?

[rtw]

So is there no way I can play this extra hard version in the latest MAME release yet?

> mame raiden2dx

[Furry Fox Jet Pilot]

So I took this 'hard' version for a spin, and its a blast! One thing I noticed was that the stage 1 music sounds different than the one on original Raiden 2 hardware though. Emulation issue or the fact that its on DX hardware, that I am not certain of. I'm still trying out the different variants, and the ones I like most are the Raiden 2 easier version and the harder version on DX hardware. The different enemy placements and patterns really give it a slightly different flavor, which I like!

[Xyga]

Agreed, it's harder but for some reason more enjoyable.
I'm really curious to know the story behind that version, was it made for an event or something ?

[IseeThings]

So I took this 'hard' version for a spin, and its a blast! One thing I noticed was that the stage 1 music sounds different than the one on original Raiden 2 hardware though. Emulation issue or the fact that its on DX hardware, that I am not certain of. I'm still trying out the different variants, and the ones I like most are the Raiden 2 easier version and the harder version on DX hardware. The different enemy placements and patterns really give it a slightly different flavor, which I like!

The sound program is different, although we currently use the Raiden DX roms for anything that wasn't in the dump (gfx, samples) on the assumption that it's a converted PCB, but there's a possibility it should be using the Raiden 2 ones.

[rtw]

The sound program is different, although we currently use the Raiden DX roms for anything that wasn't in the dump (gfx, samples) on the assumption that it's a converted PCB, but there's a possibility it should be using the Raiden 2 ones.

I suspect the original dump by the The Sheep only included socketed chips so the rest of the PCB should be Raiden DX.

[JBC]

I finally got around to trying out DX in MAME 155 last night. It's pure bliss with all the shrapnel & environmental damage effects - & I was mesmerized before I even got the toothpaste laser. There really is no home version that does the arcade justice.

I kinda jumped the gun & went for the hardest tier. I didn't even make it to the second boss without having to continue, but just considered it a practice run. The speed is overwhelming at first but towards the middle I got into the flow & was able to predict the enemy behavior & react accordingly.

One thing I forgot about was the kamikaze maneuver. Your death leaves all that shrapnel in it's wake & if you are absolutely about to bite the dust while fighting a boss you can try to rush it & blow up on top of that sucker for mega-heavy damage. I took out the 'final' boss like this in moments. BOOM!

Best soundtrack ever too >:3

[Ed Oscuro]

It's pure bliss with all the shrapnel & environmental damage effects - & I was mesmerized before I even got the toothpaste laser. There really is no home version that does the arcade justice.

Not to pick nits but that's not the reason the PSX version doesn't do the game justice - all the shrapnel effects seem to be there. Rather it's the awkward formatting that does it in.

[JBC]

I haven't played the PSX version since it's release but I don't remember it being this fluid. It stands out to me when watching the shrapnel, I think the refresh rate is different.

[Ed Oscuro]

It's a different refresh rate (54Hz) but the PlayStation versions are fluid at 60. On most MAME setups Raiden 2 will tear (unless you can sync a different refresh rate to a CRT or use an adaptive sync method).

[clamchowder01]

So I can use the latest version of mame (MAME 0.160b) to play Raiden dx? The roms are fine? Thanks.

[dink]

So I can use the latest version of mame (MAME 0.160b) to play Raiden dx? The roms are fine? Thanks.

Of course!

[clamchowder01]

So I can use the latest version of mame (MAME 0.160b) to play Raiden dx? The roms are fine? Thanks.

Of course!

I got it working with 1.55. I forgot where I got the mame programs before where they were already in MAMEUI format... How do I make MAME have a User interface? When I run mame, it opens a list of games to choose with general input option and exit.. Thanks.

[Milspex]

run a frontend like mameuifx or whatever

[MJR]

Nice to see that this is finally working in mame! Not that it matters to me, I bought the PCB last summer..

[mnneurope]

So, how are people finding this?

For Raiden DX there's less differences between versions. The most noteworthy one is the Japan set which lacks the autofire on button 3 that was added to all the other Raiden DX releases.

hi, do u myb know if Raiden DX JAP version of pcb rom will get a 3rd button functionality (autofire), which I presume PCB has? and is that some kind of protection that rom is unable to have this? but then again, UK version of Raiden DX have autofire, bcz I cant fire toothpaste laser without autofire? and do u know if anyone is working on this or on something else regarding Raiden DX JAP version of pcb rom - Im interested in true version of the game ofc, not that newer set with bad sound

*I did send a pm to IseeThings too, Im really interested in the answer as RDX is my favorite shmup

**I mean I can use toothpaste laser, but need to tap all the time as with other 2 weapons obv

[Obiwanshinobi]

Time to find some newer MAME version and get it all to work, then, I guess.
Somewhere on the forum a link can be found to a review where some of the PSX port devs (not a Japanese studio) speak about what they had to copromise for the sake of making the port as good as it is.

[BIL]

Somewhere on the forum a link can be found to a review where some of the PSX port devs (not a Japanese studio) speak about what they had to copromise for the sake of making the port as good as it is.

Raiden Project? That was developed in Japan by Seibu themselves, though programmer Richard Honeywood is Australian. thread

[cools]

hi, do u myb know if Raiden DX JAP version of pcb rom will get a 3rd button functionality (autofire), which I presume PCB has?

It doesn't. Only the export versions have it.

[mnneurope]

yes, thx

I learned that RAIDEN DX JP PCB doesnt have autofire (3rd button), and also I solved a problem, cuz my HRAP got autofire option, lol

[wonderboy]

Have they fixed the bug that makes Raiden 1 and 2 play on the hardest difficulty even if you select the easier settings? I really want to play it on normal for a change 

[wonderboy]

Have they fixed the glitch that locks the difficulty level to the hardest even if you pick easy or normal? Raiden 1 has this problem too, I just want to play on normal because those fast bullets that come from the sides (from tanks etc) takes the fun away!