Thunderforce V: PSX or Saturn?

[Davey]

Seeing this bumped definitely got the "oh shit I'm old" part of my brain fired up, thinking back to when I originally made that post. Although I'm also old enough now that that feeling is nothing new, haha.

[Xyga]

Where was the community at before shmups.system11 already ? Some of you have been around from (way?) before even 2005 iirc.

[Davey]

I don't know if this is the original original, but...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/121510

[GaijinPunch]

Where was the community at before shmups.system11 already ? Some of you have been around from (way?) before even 2005 iirc.

The original site was pretty cool. The forum was active but still probably not the main part. This was long before user-populated content was a big thing, and internet forums lacked a lot of the bells and whistles of today. I think I first started checking shit out in 2000. (Did I just say that?)

There was an iteration of PHPBB prior to this one, that for whatever reason, got shit fucked. Instead of waiting forever to migrate it, it was just abandoned and the shmups forum started anew here. You can get a rough idea of what happened from this gem where dave4shmups has an enlightening moment.

Not everyone will admit it, but this is about the only place like this on the interwebs. All the old games forums I visited throughout the naughties are either dead, or over run by shit heads. I can come here, ask about some obscure bullshit, and get a pretty trust-worthy answer a lot of the time, all the while having some type of rapport w/ the users. There are plenty of useful subreddits out there, and the small ones can be cozy, but they don't have the same community vibe as here.

[trap15]

Sorry, I'm new to these forums, just started posting back in December.

[MintyTheCat]

Where was the community at before shmups.system11 already ? Some of you have been around from (way?) before even 2005 iirc.

This takes me way back to university in the late 90s and early 2000s.
At that time, the Xenocide files were very, very helpful in finding out about Shmups. I had come to understand that Shmups attracted me the most and I set about playing and finding out about all the ones that passed me by first time around. I used Gamefaqs too but back then it was not easy to find out about all manner of games as it is these days.
I lurked and read the forum for several years before I joined - at least five years
You see, back in my university days it was not all that common for people to have a home Inet connection and if they did it was often an expensive and slow dial-up connection. As such, there was no real need for me to join back then, or at least that was my thinking at that time. Some of you may laugh now, but it was my standard practice to copy the Xenocide pages for given shmups to "disk" - yep, floppy, and read it at home on my high-performance Pentium I used to copy the text from Gamefaqs for reference at home. We lived in a very different world. I still have those files on the server somewhere but it was really handy to have. EBay was in it s infancy around that time too and the Xenocide list became a 'shopping list' if you like. I recall seeing some action bidding on Spriggan from the vantage point of a computing lab in what must have been 2000 and I only knew about that game due to the Xenocide files. I remember telling a mate of mine in lecture about the site and the other really good one back then was the Gradius Home World [1].

When I left University, and by that time faster Inet connections were the norm I joined as I began working on a Shmup and I met a swedish programmer on here around 2005 and we still chat from time to time. All in all, the forum has been very useful to me with only a couple of niggles along the way.

I shall join you all and feel 'old' now

[1] http://www.gamestone.co.uk/gradius/

[BIL]

I joined very late, relatively speaking, but I get a little nostalgic thinking about this community's early 2000s incarnation too. I was mooching around the periphery then, having gotten a hint of what non-importers were missing via GameFan and Edge magazines. Didn't get bitten by the bug proper until around 2004 and Gradius V, but when I did and started catching up, a lot of the materials I relied on were from earlier in the decade. It was probably more like snapping out of a AAA gaming coma than "bitten by the bug," actually, but I still had a ton of lurking and reading to do regardless.

Little did I know while sensible_chuckle.gif-ing at Boonga Boonga writeups in 2002 that I'd be balls-deep in import hell with the rest of you lunatics a decade later.

[Xyga]

Same as Minty end-90's/early 2000's I was in uni, spending some of my free time and money browsing import+used games stores, and getting info on the net though only in little amounts coz' of dialup and too timid english (decent french niche physical press was still my #1 source)
Ended up joining the french equivalent of this community on the late, by early 2006 when the press was beginning to die, also after having wasted a lot of time within various retro and emu boards.
Then here much later, although I had been lurking for a long time, primarily drawn by the hardware forum (when my interest for shmups was already fading a bit actually lol *shame*)

[scrilla4rella]

We should do a 'necro bump of the week'

[GaijinPunch]

We should do a 'necro bump of the week'

Maybe stick a thread here called "Random Ancient Thread of Importance" with a link to it so it can all be nicely documented.

[FinalBaton]

Minty I also used to copy and paste GameFaq walkthroughs on word files! haha, you're not alone. That was in the days when my ardent desire to play the Famicom Final Fantasy 2 and 3 in english pushed me to dive into emularors (Nesticle represents!). That was around 1999-2001 I think?

[Despatche]

We should do a 'necro bump of the week'

We already almost do this. About every month, some mysterious old thread reappears for questionable reasons.

[MintyTheCat]

Minty I also used to copy and paste GameFaq walkthroughs on word files! haha, you're not alone. That was in the days when my ardent desire to play the Famicom Final Fantasy 2 and 3 in english pushed me to dive into emularors (Nesticle represents!). That was around 1999-2001 I think?

I think I may be a little older than you - Word More seriously: a text file works everywhere and is a lot smaller than a Word file so I would use text files and I still do mostly to this day.

It felt really like archeology back then Kind of cool how many folks have a similar story and how all roads led us here

[FinalBaton]

Minty I also used to copy and paste GameFaq walkthroughs on word files! haha, you're not alone. That was in the days when my ardent desire to play the Famicom Final Fantasy 2 and 3 in english pushed me to dive into emularors (Nesticle represents!). That was around 1999-2001 I think?

I think I may be a little older than you - Word More seriously: a text file works everywhere and is a lot smaller than a Word file so I would use text files and I still do mostly to this day.

It felt really like archeology back then Kind of cool how many folks have a similar story and how all roads led us here

Ah, I don't like wordpad (.txt files) cause you end up with text that exceeds the border of the window in the case of long sentences, in the case of copy-pasted text from the web >w< That's why even back in the late '90s I would copy those FAQs in Word '95. Besides, MS Office was bundled with Windows back then so it was hardly a luxury software, hehe. 'Member when Office used to be bundled with Windows? Now THAT's a throwback, lol

[Austin]

Some of the frameskipping can be a little jarring in the Saturn version, particularly when you're trying to dodge stuff. But, overall it's definitely the nicer version to look at. So many graphical effects missing from the PS1 version. Regardless, you can't go wrong with either version.

[MintyTheCat]

Minty I also used to copy and paste GameFaq walkthroughs on word files! haha, you're not alone. That was in the days when my ardent desire to play the Famicom Final Fantasy 2 and 3 in english pushed me to dive into emularors (Nesticle represents!). That was around 1999-2001 I think?

I think I may be a little older than you - Word More seriously: a text file works everywhere and is a lot smaller than a Word file so I would use text files and I still do mostly to this day.

It felt really like archeology back then Kind of cool how many folks have a similar story and how all roads led us here

Ah, I don't like wordpad (.txt files) cause you end up with text that exceeds the border of the window in the case of long sentences, in the case of copy-pasted text from the web >w< That's why even back in the late '90s I would copy those FAQs in Word '95. Besides, MS Office was bundled with Windows back then so it was hardly a luxury software, hehe. 'Member when Office used to be bundled with Windows? Now THAT's a throwback, lol

If you use a decent text-editor such as Vim, Emacs, etc. you can set the border and line width.

More information about text-editors here: http://lifehacker.com/five-best-text-editors-1564907215

[null1024]

We should do a 'necro bump of the week'

We already almost do this. About every month, some mysterious old thread reappears for questionable reasons.

I'm still continually glad that it's not a big deal here. Never did get why so many boards get up in arms about old threads reappearing every once in a while.

If you use a decent text-editor such as Vim, Emacs, etc. you can set the border and line width.

Hell, even Notepad has supported word wrap for years -- maybe even always, although it wasn't default [and IIRC, before Win2K, it wasn't a settable option, so you had to re-select it every time you opened a file with long lines]. Pissed me off to no end back in the day that it didn't stick [also, 64k limit pre-2k/XP lol].
these days, I just use notepad++ [and have about four dozen tabs open always]

also, vim and emacs are too much effort, just use nano with "set nowrap" and "set softwrap" enabled

[MintyTheCat]

If you use a decent text-editor such as Vim, Emacs, etc. you can set the border and line width.

Hell, even Notepad has supported word wrap for years -- maybe even always, although it wasn't default [and IIRC, before Win2K, it wasn't a settable option, so you had to re-select it every time you opened a file with long lines]. Pissed me off to no end back in the day that it didn't stick [also, 64k limit pre-2k/XP lol].
these days, I just use notepad++ [and have about four dozen tabs open always]

also, vim and emacs are too much effort, just use nano with "set nowrap" and "set softwrap" enabled

Notepad++ many people use these days and it is not bad.

Vim is not that hardcore but yes, Emacs takes some time to learn. I know two people who use it.
For me, Vim is the best of both worlds and I use it for pretty much all my work.

[HydrogLox]

From Vim to Emacs+Evil chaotic migration guide

Spacemacs - The best editor is neither Emacs nor Vim, it's Emacs and Vim! - Vim Users

[FinalBaton]

Yeah I use a more robust text file editor(Notepad++) now, but back then I had no idea such a thing existed. I was just a dumb teenager trying to play vidjya games. gimme a break, lol
Not everyone is computer-savy, you know?

[MintyTheCat]

Yeah I use a more robust text file editor(Notepad++) now, but back then I had no idea such a thing existed. I was just a dumb teenager trying to play vidjya games. gimme a break, lol
Not everyone is computer-savy, you know?

Takes me back to using Ed on the Amiga That was powerful to me back in the early 90s:

http://wiki.amigaos.net/wiki/AmigaOS_Ma ... he_Editors

I used it for Assembly back then but looking back now it was a bit hard-going having only four colours. I really like text-hi-lighting. Vim is handy because it supports so many file-formats so I can say "treat this file as a C/Python/Asm 68K/Matlab/etc. file".
The other nice thing about Vim and Emacs is that they run on nearly everything. I am not sure about Notepad++ being able to run on other platforms besides Windows.

[Battlesmurf]

The good/bad thing about these bumps is it reminds you just how fucking old we are now (yikes) and about how so many other people have moved on with their adult lives, and have no time to argue about video games and movies on an internet forum.

Man, doesn't seem like it's been over a decade o.o

[Strider77]

What happened to PaCrappa? I never see him anymore.... not in ages.

[null1024]

I am not sure about Notepad++ being able to run on other platforms besides Windows.

I really wish Notepad++ wasn't such a through and through Windows program.

there's a bunch of really nice, and even open source programs I like on Windows that sadly don't have Linux versions, like jpegview [which is ridiculously better than any other image viewer I've ever used on any platform ever -- would use it as my main viewer on Linux but last time I tried in Wine, it had issues drawing animated gifs]

[MintyTheCat]

I am not sure about Notepad++ being able to run on other platforms besides Windows.

I really wish Notepad++ wasn't such a through and through Windows program.

there's a bunch of really nice, and even open source programs I like on Windows that sadly don't have Linux versions, like jpegview [which is ridiculously better than any other image viewer I've ever used on any platform ever -- would use it as my main viewer on Linux but last time I tried in Wine, it had issues drawing animated gifs]

This is just how it is a lot of the time I used to Paint Shop Pro 6 for very simple pixel work, then I found out about Grafx2 which is just like Deluxe Paint on the Amiga but I am using Pro-Motion these days. I am not a pixel artist or anything like that but I need a graphics application that can be useful and this one is not bad. I use it to make some first level maps for stages too but I have to pass that through my own tools to add more fields to the cells.

Out of all the platforms I think I liked using the Mac the most but for me it hardly matters as I simply SSH into some other machine so pretty much any machine will do. I find that I need Mac, Windows and Linux for work.

[Acid King]

What happened to PaCrappa? I never see him anymore.... not in ages.

He's in a stoner/doom/psych rock band.

https://ancientwarlocks.bandcamp.com/